Everybody at NASA should quit and create a new agency.
CoolTomatoh on
And the trump regime is totally NOT a spy agency
paloa888 on
This appears to be more about labor unions than space science. Declaring intelligence primacy allows collective bargaining to be ignored.
It is a sad statement of where we are at though.
only_remaining_name on
Titan is looking mighty suspicious these days. We should send a spy mission in 2027.
JustAlpha on
It doesn’t matter what the reasoning about it is.
He isn’t allowed this stupid, unilateral power. He’s illegitimate.
Oriumpor on
Well… there go all those cool NRO mission patches.
redditorial_comment on
Hurry up midterms.we need this baloney over with.
blazze on
National Aeronautics and Spy Agency (NASA) will promote space exploration for spying. This is genius.
StrigiStockBacking on
Well, I read that enemies of the Divided States of Heritage Foundation (formerly known as the USA) are putting boots on the moon soon, so they better get Artemis III funding asap!
ElusiveAnmol on
what. The. Actual. Duck. Carl Sagan would not be proud of this
Basicyeti837 on
We live in the absolute dumbest timeline now. The authoritarianism would be slightly more palatable if Trump weren’t such a stupid and moronic POS.
Pilfercate on
The whole space shuttle program was supported by the need for NASA to deliver classified payloads to space. Between 1982 and 1992, 11 classified payloads were delivered to space by NASA. Modern space science was founded by the need for spying. So long, lame excuse.
dCLCp on
In accordance to what I have been saying for ten years his job is to degrade the American image. He is trying to get our global customers to leave. It is his only job and everything he does makes sense when you see that.
NASA is the premier product of American excellence. What they haven’t already dismantled and replaced with crony capitalism they are degrading on the international stage. China owns Russia and Russia owns Trump. Russia and China want a weak embarrassed poisoned tired unethical immoral America. The billionaires don’t care or if anything are gleefully hoovering up the pieces of our failed state. They will make their buck whether it is China or USA.
But China and Russia also need America to look bad. It is the only thing protecting their leaders. “Look how bad the westerners are. Only we can save you.”
CurveOk3459 on
Ok
Can we go spy on mars and other planets moons and galaxies far far away? That can be reinterpreted as spying. Might be aliens there or covert operations by our enemies.
Citizentoxie502 on
To spy on us, right? Can’t have us just living our lives.
jbrunsonfan on
Does this mean it will get proper funding now?
Berkyjay on
I mean he can give all the orders he wants. it doesn’t make it true.
almostbobsaget on
Is there a chance that Trump mistook the abbreviation as the National American Spy Agency?
Jaimee484 on
Well, NASA has been doing secret stuff for decades now, so not sure what you’re referring to, or how it will be any different than it is now???🥸
Honey_B_Lovely on
The one that just discovered evidence of past life in Mars? Fantastic.
dany5639 on
are there independent archives of all data posted by NASA publicly? mildly worried they can just take down servers for no good reason
Messier_Mystic on
I said it from the get go. NASA won’t survive this administration.Â
I’m really hoping someone, somehow, proves me wrong. But boy does the writing appear to be on the wall.Â
Decronym on
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[CNSA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|Chinese National Space Administration|
|[ESA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|European Space Agency|
|[FOIA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek4ckh “Last usage”)|(US) [Freedom of Information Act](https://www.foia.gov/)|
|[ISRO](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|Indian Space Research Organisation|
|[JAXA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|Japan Aerospace eXploration Agency|
|NRHO|Near-Rectilinear Halo Orbit|
|[NRO](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/neke6l8 “Last usage”)|(US) National Reconnaissance Office|
| |Near-Rectilinear Orbit, see NRHO|
Decronym is now also available on Lemmy! Requests for support and new installations should be directed to the Contact address below.
He only did this so that he can get rid of unions. Trump has declared that over half of federal employees work on national security which is an obvious lie.
grummanae on
… exactly as previous posts have indicated this is more about taking the power to collectively bargain … essentially busting the Union’s chops
Historically Nasa was the main launch organization for most of the military’s orbital assets
Hell most of the astronaut corps are former or active military
All this does is if they come up to contract and the union wants something he won’t give them … or congress won’t … he can say no you cant take any job action but take what im offering or else theres the door
SpaceInMyBrain on
Working up to making NASA a branch of the Space Force.
nanomeme on
They can’t get their heads around spending money on science for any reasons that aren’t directly for their own profit, for their industrial croneys’ profits or in support of military strength.
MagicDave131 on
No, that’s not what’s going on here. NASA is not set up to do spy work, and Trump has his very own Space Force and NRO to spy on people from space if he feels like it.
Rather, this is about laying waste to the civil service, long a conservative wet dream, and one Trump has put into overdrive. Much of the civil service is more or less invisible to the public, they work to keep the country running, and are mostly good at it because they are *politically independent.* Aside from a few agency heads, the president cannot fire most civil service employees except for cause.
Some agencies–like NASA–are called “independent federal agencies,” and are almost entirely free of meddling from the executive branch. This EO strips NASA of its independence and frees Dear Leader to summarily sack anyone who he feels is not loyal to His Imperial Majesty. The intelligence thing is just the excuse he’s used to stick NASA on an existing order.
But OP is correct in one part: so long, space science, plus a LOT more very important science. Most people don’t realize it, but NASA does important climatological research, and thus champions heresies like climate change being a real thing. Trump is shutting down all government science relating to things like climate change, vaccines, and so on. When governments subvert science, **BAD** things happen. Trump is pushing the US further on its path towards becoming a failed third-world state. With nukes.
OTOH, people who have mistaken manned spaceflight for “space science” will probably be happy, because the agency will be steered much more towards doing way more pointless manned spaceflight PR stunts. Already, the new director of NASA is clutching his pearls and shrieking that the Filthy Commies (the Chinese this time) are going to beat us back to the Moon. Oh noes!!! So they will probably flush a shitload of money down the crapper trying to get a manned Moon mission off the ground, one that will return pathetically little actual science value.
Since day one, NASA has blown the lion’s share of their meager budget on manned spaceflight, leaving real science missions to beg for table scraps. Sending people to do science in space is the LEAST cost-effective way to do that, and by a whole bunch. When you send people into space, about 90% of your money, mass, and fuel budgets have to be spent JUST on keeping the meat alive, which doesn’t leave much room for anything else. But the mass public loves the manned spaceflight PR–at least for a short while, until they get bored–and don’t care about any boring old science that isn’t happening because we have astronauts shooting golf balls on the Moon.
RobertdBanks on
It will take decades to walk back the damage this administration has done
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Everybody at NASA should quit and create a new agency.
And the trump regime is totally NOT a spy agency
This appears to be more about labor unions than space science. Declaring intelligence primacy allows collective bargaining to be ignored.
It is a sad statement of where we are at though.
Titan is looking mighty suspicious these days. We should send a spy mission in 2027.
It doesn’t matter what the reasoning about it is.
He isn’t allowed this stupid, unilateral power. He’s illegitimate.
Well… there go all those cool NRO mission patches.
Hurry up midterms.we need this baloney over with.
National Aeronautics and Spy Agency (NASA) will promote space exploration for spying. This is genius.
Well, I read that enemies of the Divided States of Heritage Foundation (formerly known as the USA) are putting boots on the moon soon, so they better get Artemis III funding asap!
what. The. Actual. Duck. Carl Sagan would not be proud of this
We live in the absolute dumbest timeline now. The authoritarianism would be slightly more palatable if Trump weren’t such a stupid and moronic POS.
The whole space shuttle program was supported by the need for NASA to deliver classified payloads to space. Between 1982 and 1992, 11 classified payloads were delivered to space by NASA. Modern space science was founded by the need for spying. So long, lame excuse.
In accordance to what I have been saying for ten years his job is to degrade the American image. He is trying to get our global customers to leave. It is his only job and everything he does makes sense when you see that.
NASA is the premier product of American excellence. What they haven’t already dismantled and replaced with crony capitalism they are degrading on the international stage. China owns Russia and Russia owns Trump. Russia and China want a weak embarrassed poisoned tired unethical immoral America. The billionaires don’t care or if anything are gleefully hoovering up the pieces of our failed state. They will make their buck whether it is China or USA.
But China and Russia also need America to look bad. It is the only thing protecting their leaders. “Look how bad the westerners are. Only we can save you.”
Ok
Can we go spy on mars and other planets moons and galaxies far far away? That can be reinterpreted as spying. Might be aliens there or covert operations by our enemies.
To spy on us, right? Can’t have us just living our lives.
Does this mean it will get proper funding now?
I mean he can give all the orders he wants. it doesn’t make it true.
Is there a chance that Trump mistook the abbreviation as the National American Spy Agency?
Well, NASA has been doing secret stuff for decades now, so not sure what you’re referring to, or how it will be any different than it is now???🥸
The one that just discovered evidence of past life in Mars? Fantastic.
are there independent archives of all data posted by NASA publicly? mildly worried they can just take down servers for no good reason
I said it from the get go. NASA won’t survive this administration.Â
I’m really hoping someone, somehow, proves me wrong. But boy does the writing appear to be on the wall.Â
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[CNSA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|Chinese National Space Administration|
|[ESA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|European Space Agency|
|[FOIA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek4ckh “Last usage”)|(US) [Freedom of Information Act](https://www.foia.gov/)|
|[ISRO](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|Indian Space Research Organisation|
|[JAXA](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/nek0exh “Last usage”)|Japan Aerospace eXploration Agency|
|NRHO|Near-Rectilinear Halo Orbit|
|[NRO](/r/Space/comments/1nimoo3/stub/neke6l8 “Last usage”)|(US) National Reconnaissance Office|
| |Near-Rectilinear Orbit, see NRHO|
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He only did this so that he can get rid of unions. Trump has declared that over half of federal employees work on national security which is an obvious lie.
… exactly as previous posts have indicated this is more about taking the power to collectively bargain … essentially busting the Union’s chops
Historically Nasa was the main launch organization for most of the military’s orbital assets
Hell most of the astronaut corps are former or active military
All this does is if they come up to contract and the union wants something he won’t give them … or congress won’t … he can say no you cant take any job action but take what im offering or else theres the door
Working up to making NASA a branch of the Space Force.
They can’t get their heads around spending money on science for any reasons that aren’t directly for their own profit, for their industrial croneys’ profits or in support of military strength.
No, that’s not what’s going on here. NASA is not set up to do spy work, and Trump has his very own Space Force and NRO to spy on people from space if he feels like it.
Rather, this is about laying waste to the civil service, long a conservative wet dream, and one Trump has put into overdrive. Much of the civil service is more or less invisible to the public, they work to keep the country running, and are mostly good at it because they are *politically independent.* Aside from a few agency heads, the president cannot fire most civil service employees except for cause.
Some agencies–like NASA–are called “independent federal agencies,” and are almost entirely free of meddling from the executive branch. This EO strips NASA of its independence and frees Dear Leader to summarily sack anyone who he feels is not loyal to His Imperial Majesty. The intelligence thing is just the excuse he’s used to stick NASA on an existing order.
But OP is correct in one part: so long, space science, plus a LOT more very important science. Most people don’t realize it, but NASA does important climatological research, and thus champions heresies like climate change being a real thing. Trump is shutting down all government science relating to things like climate change, vaccines, and so on. When governments subvert science, **BAD** things happen. Trump is pushing the US further on its path towards becoming a failed third-world state. With nukes.
OTOH, people who have mistaken manned spaceflight for “space science” will probably be happy, because the agency will be steered much more towards doing way more pointless manned spaceflight PR stunts. Already, the new director of NASA is clutching his pearls and shrieking that the Filthy Commies (the Chinese this time) are going to beat us back to the Moon. Oh noes!!! So they will probably flush a shitload of money down the crapper trying to get a manned Moon mission off the ground, one that will return pathetically little actual science value.
Since day one, NASA has blown the lion’s share of their meager budget on manned spaceflight, leaving real science missions to beg for table scraps. Sending people to do science in space is the LEAST cost-effective way to do that, and by a whole bunch. When you send people into space, about 90% of your money, mass, and fuel budgets have to be spent JUST on keeping the meat alive, which doesn’t leave much room for anything else. But the mass public loves the manned spaceflight PR–at least for a short while, until they get bored–and don’t care about any boring old science that isn’t happening because we have astronauts shooting golf balls on the Moon.
It will take decades to walk back the damage this administration has done