Yep, sending three people back really has been a disincentive.
CurtisInCamden on
1000 a day and the rate of that milestone is only increasing. Unexpected future events aside, this issue more than any other is Labour’s biggest risk vs Reform at the next election, but nothing’s being done other than telling people to look the other way and pretend it’s not happening.
We’ll wake up to Nigel Farage as PM over such a pointless & easily solvable issue.
jodrellbank_pants on
Were getting played it’s as simple as that.
No other time in history have we not been able to defend our shores.
The french politicians. Don’t like us we’ve kicked their arses, saved them from Nazi’s but still here we are.
Sensitive_Echo5058 on
The problem is that too many people are either blind to the reality that this problem is getting worse or actively want open borders and do not care about the crossings to conceptualise possible solutions. Some people will be profiting from this economic trade, too, Serco and Mears especially.
When the possibility of using the military to patrol the maritime borders between the UK and France was proposed on Thursday, the idea was shot down immediately by Peter Kyle and many on the left – before any conversation could be had regarding its possible merits or disadvantages.
There will never be a solution if some conversations, and it’s just that at this stage, but some conversations can’t be had.
The fact is that when Australia used the navy to patrol its borders with a zero tolerance approach, it led to a massive reduction in boat crossings almost immediately. No one was killed, but they were escorted safely back to a neutral island for processing.
The Labour deal is doomed for failure. The 1000+ economic migrants coming in yesterday is a testament to this. Let’s start talking about possible solutions, and let’s not be quick to dismiss potential ideas:
This is because Labour genuinely DO NOT GET IT. You could write it in capitals and slap it on Starmer’s forehead. he won’t get it.
There was a report in the Times today of the new Home Sec starting just as the first return case was successful at court. She shocked civil servants by demanding problem solving that day, and when she gets to the part about the Home Office’s own guidance saying “If the asylum seeker raises an issue they can be given time to present a case” she said for it to be struck out and re-drafted by 4pm.
Now it apparently reads “They can be deported to a safe country and if they want to raise the issue they can raise it from there.”
This one line may have stymied many deportations and previous Home Sec’s and Civil Servants were either ignorant of it (so incompetent), didn’t think it was an issue (so incompetent) or were risk averse about the solution (so incompetent).
The is why Labour don’t get it. Either they grip this or they will sit around their focus groups in a few years time saying “But how did it all go wrong?”
GnolRevilo on
Fascinating that this post is so heavily downvoted. Are people just burying their heads in the sand hoping it will just magically go away? This is only going to get worse, I dread to think what next summer’s numbers are going to be.
Closing the hotels will do nothing, they will just be put up in HMOs in your neighbourhood soon enough.
xParesh on
Its hardly news when it’s the same story every single day.
This will continue to be a daily occurrence until the next goverment step in and get a grip of this.
In the meantime let’s all brace ourselves for massive tax rises this autumn to keep paying for this and all the other wasteful crap.
ItWasJustBanter1 on
It’s so simple. They either stop the boats or they lose the next election, your choice Labour.
klepto_entropoid on
300+ thousand people a year. Let that sink in. 1.2 million more people in the next 4 years. Madness.
TheLimeyLemmon on
>despite returns deal with France
Which is still in the early stages and thus not in full operation.
But hey, nice of a news outlet to even acknowledge the returns deal in a headline, finally.
TheLimeyLemmon on
Almost every comment here is drawing from emotional arguments instead of logical ones. I can’t say I’m surprised but it makes any meaningful conversation about what the government is or isn’t doing a real non-starter.
cactusnan on
Brexit has caused so much suffering and misery for everyone.
Informal_Drawing on
Who the f*ck is building all the boats to support this ??????
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Yep, sending three people back really has been a disincentive.
1000 a day and the rate of that milestone is only increasing. Unexpected future events aside, this issue more than any other is Labour’s biggest risk vs Reform at the next election, but nothing’s being done other than telling people to look the other way and pretend it’s not happening.
We’ll wake up to Nigel Farage as PM over such a pointless & easily solvable issue.
Were getting played it’s as simple as that.
No other time in history have we not been able to defend our shores.
The french politicians. Don’t like us we’ve kicked their arses, saved them from Nazi’s but still here we are.
The problem is that too many people are either blind to the reality that this problem is getting worse or actively want open borders and do not care about the crossings to conceptualise possible solutions. Some people will be profiting from this economic trade, too, Serco and Mears especially.
When the possibility of using the military to patrol the maritime borders between the UK and France was proposed on Thursday, the idea was shot down immediately by Peter Kyle and many on the left – before any conversation could be had regarding its possible merits or disadvantages.
There will never be a solution if some conversations, and it’s just that at this stage, but some conversations can’t be had.
The fact is that when Australia used the navy to patrol its borders with a zero tolerance approach, it led to a massive reduction in boat crossings almost immediately. No one was killed, but they were escorted safely back to a neutral island for processing.
The Labour deal is doomed for failure. The 1000+ economic migrants coming in yesterday is a testament to this. Let’s start talking about possible solutions, and let’s not be quick to dismiss potential ideas:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sovereign_Borders
This is because Labour genuinely DO NOT GET IT. You could write it in capitals and slap it on Starmer’s forehead. he won’t get it.
There was a report in the Times today of the new Home Sec starting just as the first return case was successful at court. She shocked civil servants by demanding problem solving that day, and when she gets to the part about the Home Office’s own guidance saying “If the asylum seeker raises an issue they can be given time to present a case” she said for it to be struck out and re-drafted by 4pm.
Now it apparently reads “They can be deported to a safe country and if they want to raise the issue they can raise it from there.”
This one line may have stymied many deportations and previous Home Sec’s and Civil Servants were either ignorant of it (so incompetent), didn’t think it was an issue (so incompetent) or were risk averse about the solution (so incompetent).
The is why Labour don’t get it. Either they grip this or they will sit around their focus groups in a few years time saying “But how did it all go wrong?”
Fascinating that this post is so heavily downvoted. Are people just burying their heads in the sand hoping it will just magically go away? This is only going to get worse, I dread to think what next summer’s numbers are going to be.
Closing the hotels will do nothing, they will just be put up in HMOs in your neighbourhood soon enough.
Its hardly news when it’s the same story every single day.
This will continue to be a daily occurrence until the next goverment step in and get a grip of this.
In the meantime let’s all brace ourselves for massive tax rises this autumn to keep paying for this and all the other wasteful crap.
It’s so simple. They either stop the boats or they lose the next election, your choice Labour.
300+ thousand people a year. Let that sink in. 1.2 million more people in the next 4 years. Madness.
>despite returns deal with France
Which is still in the early stages and thus not in full operation.
But hey, nice of a news outlet to even acknowledge the returns deal in a headline, finally.
Almost every comment here is drawing from emotional arguments instead of logical ones. I can’t say I’m surprised but it makes any meaningful conversation about what the government is or isn’t doing a real non-starter.
Brexit has caused so much suffering and misery for everyone.
Who the f*ck is building all the boats to support this ??????