A generation of the worst parents ever seen has brought behaviour in schools to tipping point
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[permissive society coming home to roost ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3k0driKN8)
i have seen teachers on reddit talk about how bad the children and parents can be. i know first hand from being a child in the 2000s the amount of crazy stuff kids did. throwing the teacher’s papers out the window. one kid was allowed to listen to music while in class as some kind of agreement. I even saw a teacher get pushed over.
this sort of stuff would never fly in some other societies. no wonder there is a recruitment crisis.
the middle class have their proverbial heads in the sand at why the zeitgeist is moving to the right. it’s multi-faceted, but a permissive attitude towards anti-social behaviour is part of it. Think of your local shop being robbed blind over and over again or a group of teens causing mayhem in your town centre.
imagine the freedom of living in a cohesive city. it’s a type of wealth.
Parents were asked to parent properly for 18 months and not offload that responsibility to teacher and they utterly shit the bed.
>The majority of those parents were born in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
I’ve been saying for a while that the millennial (of which I am one) generation is going to make boomers look like benevolent saints in comparison. We’ve really popularised some of the worst aspects of society and it’s going to be hard to unfuck.
Even worse.. We’re getting into positions of power now.
Gen X were the last half decent generation imo.
I have high hopes for Gen Z who seem to be rebelling against lots of ‘cringe’ Millennial thinking.
Evidence-free opinion piece. Various assertions made with nothing to back them up.
Right wing newspaper for old people thinks young people are the problem? Didn’t see that coming.
My parents were secondary school teachers. They started to see big declines on behaviour before they retired, fifteen years back.
Their view on the reasons were that you couldn’t easily exclude kids any more, or send them to other units, but the schools were not given the extra resources they needed to manage disruptive kids as part of mainstream education.
I remember asking my mum once if the parents were a problem. She said of course there are shit parents, but there were shit parents in the seventies.
I feel like gentle parenting has gone a little bit too far honestly I know quite a few young parents who don’t even attempt to discipline their children and then wonder why they’re so badly behaved at home and at primary school, or just completely glued to an iPad.
At the same time they’re utterly convinced their children have ASD or ADHD because of the way they behave – which honestly I really genuinely doubt.
I’ve tried saying something a few times nicely now but the message is yet to sink in.
I find these tricky because theres always that lingering confirmation bias about
On the one hand statistically they consume less alcohol, drugs, less teenage pregnancies etc
But on the other, you regularly hear about the violence towards educators, also knives generally wasn’t something you gave much thought to 2/3 decades ago unless the area was a proper shithole
They are exposed to alot of shit as well. Pales in comparison to discovering bush porn
(no thats not a clever pun)
They complain about discipline but my kids secondary academy seems to have the most convoluted darvo bullying flowchart.
What an absolute car-crash of an opinion piece. No evidence is provided to show that:
* Parents born in the ’80s/’90s received less “tough love” than other generations
* The absence of “tough love” leads to permissive parenting
* Parents who didn’t receive “tough love” are the ones now attacking schools
“Tough love” isn’t even defined, and the embedded link supposedly supporting “the reality of tough love” says nothing on the subject. The piece ends up being little more than a generational attack dressed up with a climate-change style “tipping point” metaphor.
If you want your biases confirmed that more “tough love” (whatever that means) is the answer, this article will scratch that itch. For everyone else, save yourself the click.
And why is this generation the worst parents? Let’s dig into it
It seems to me at my daughters school the more naughty the child the more they reward and bend over backwards to let them get away with bad behaviour . Whilst the ones who are good get over looked and have to pay to attend breakfast club etc . The new free breakfast club is useless to us as we need them there 15 mins earlier than the free part kicks in .
I love how we just pretend the fucking pandemic never happened and has no ongoing consequences.
Portrayals of lame, undermining parenting is seeping into TV adverts as well. It almost seems to be accepted? Seen the current Robinsons Squash ad where the mum is called into school because he’s been acting up? She takes him home, sits him at the kitchen table and just when you think she’s about to do her job and tear a strip off him they break into a fit of giggles!
My cousin has a rule that she will never say no to her child, because she doesn’t want to stifle them. She flipped out at her mum when she dared to tell the child off for climbing up on the dining table. Like the whole ‘you dont tell me how to raise my child’ thing.
The daughter is pretty well behaved mostly, but she’s getting set up to be so spoiled. I can’t imagine never hearing the word no or having no boundaries, its ridiculous. Imagining a teacher coming in to try and counter that is awful for them.
Dealing with Chav guardians/parents has always been a major challenge for educators at the Primary level. Nothing has really changed recently as regards that – they’ve just gotten more aggressive and entitled.
Well, we’re getting our kids into a Church school.obviously it won’t be trouble free but it does help that the parents of the kids can understand English.
This is weird to read because I have worked in early years, and the children there definitely seemed better behaved than when I was a similar age.
Forty years of people being told that teachers are lazy, that “we pay their wages.”, that “they’re all trendy lefties.”, that “there’s no point in school.”, has come to fruition.
It’s a funding issue. Across every facet of life. If all these parents started hitting their kids, it would make everything even worse. We’re just not seeing these trends in affluent areas.
Society has given the kids all the power. And it’s not good for anyone.
Some kids need a smack now and then. Since that’s been banned, these same kids that need it are running wild. It’s the dumb ass parents that abused their kids that have ruined it for everyone else. Responsible parents know how and when to smack for the benefit of the kids.
The authors main issue seems to be the existence of the legal rights of parents and children, which he finds exhausting. I also don’t always like other people having rights, but I do my best to chill out and consider that they exist for a reason before writing op ed pieces for the telegraph. The key is impulse control!
Absolutely it has – what did people expect from using iPad as childminders and refusing to utter the word ‘no’?!
Since becoming a parent I’ve done absolutely everything I can to ensure my kids is not counted as one of these badly behaved gremlins. There are so many kids in my son’s year who act like literal feral monkeys and the parents couldn’t give less of a shit.
Author of this article sounds like an utter judgemental privileged tosser. Makes sense he wrote an article for the Telegraph.
What parents? Feminists wanted a job so now teachers are raising the kids. It’s not their child and they’re not allowed to discipline them…