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  1. John_Williams_1977 on

    I’m of the view our elected reps should be able to say anything they actually believe – as that’s LITERALLY the job.

    God help us if neither voters or our reps dare cause offence.

  2. All I can say is if you think this is bad, just imagine what Tories and Reform members say on their Telegram chats to each other…

    This isn’t even the tip of the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the stuff they both believe and (more privately than on this occasion) vocalise, I’d wager.

  3. RaymondBumcheese on

    I watched Politics Live over lunch and was struck by how little the Tories have learned and how it was like being back to the good old days.

    A senior tory does something indefensibly stupid and a cast of useful idiots are sent out to repeat insulting lies to us until he inevitably backtracks and makes everyone look even dumber.

    ‘He was just commenting on the state of integration in this country’ just like Bernard Manning used to comment on gender politics in the home.

  4. I’m no Tory or Reform voter, but I don’t see how what he’s said is racist? I thought the exact same after being in Small Heath in Birmingham recently. Diversity is one of the country’s strengths, but the key to diversity is a blend of cultures, not just one culture which has taken over an entire area. I don’t want to feel like I’m in a foreign land walking down a street in my own country.
    The left dismissing views like this as racist is exactly why Reform are (unfortunately) going to win the next election by a landslide.

  5. Just curious as to what he said was racist??? He’s calling for an open debate on integration

    Be careful when using the word racist anytime you can as it will loose its value

  6. Pen_dragons_pizza on

    Nothing racist about it, it’s a fact that large parts of city’s are overly white and others are not.

    Integration is the conversation and the fact that a mix of cultures and people should be throughout city’s and not just located to one.

  7. I don’t think we can live in a society where it’s reasonable to criticise a lack of diversity when it’s too many white people and not enough black or brown people but not visa versa.

    He made a pretty reasonable point about how some areas in the U.K. lack racial diversity.

  8. messinginhessen on

    How are his comments racist and yet Hamza Yusufs repeated “white” comments are not?

  9. LonelyStranger8467 on

    Residential segregation, entire streets of businesses that only cater to and employ individual communities, no interracial marriages. People clustering along ethnic, cultural, or religious lines defeats the purposes of a multicultural society. That’s a parallel society operating within UK borders.

    We should look at why in a country where 75% are white British that there are places where only 5-10% are white British. What is the cause? Is it likely financial? Is it cultural clash? It appears to be indicative of failure to integrate. If every person with a south Asian, African, middle eastern background is just as British as a Celtic/germanic background then why are we not choosing to live next to each other.

    If you don’t think people in Nigeria would be very concerned if parts of Lagos were 90% white British. Or parts of Sylhet, Karachi were 95% white British. I can imagine some choice descriptors people would use.

  10. A Western country is the only place you’d get people complaining about what he said as being racist.

  11. I’m very anti Conservatives, so I’d love to be able to say see, typical Tories, but on this occasion, I think he just used very poor wording.

    I sat and thought about it, if it was anyone else who wasn’t either a Conservative or Reform supporter would I have considered it racist? The answer is no, I’d of told them to think of a better way to say it because of how highly wound up everyone is these days, so I’m going to reluctantly give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

  12. I think his wording could have been better, but he’s correct about integration.

    It used to be people arrived here with the explicit intent to become British on more than just paper, but in values. This doesn’t happen any more, instead we get people arriving and congregating into communities based on their own ethno-relgious values and isolating themselves.

    Technically speaking, it’s wrong to call this out by skin colour, but in reality, most Muslims arriving here are Asian or black, most orthodox Jews are white, etc. They don’t hold these values because of their skin colour, but their skin colour is indicative of their origin, and their origin determines their values.

    There’s nothing wrong with calling this out, in fact these enclaves are probably the biggest threat to social stability outside of the cost of living crisis. It’s not malicious or white replacement, as the racists would have us believe. It’s that different groups with different values will vote for people to uphold those values. Eventually, there will come a time when those groups amass enough people and political power to force those values on to others through law. If those values are radically different, we’ll see separatism and violence.

    This is a fire we can’t just keep throwing fuel on.

  13. ThatGuyMaulicious on

    At this point man he might as well defect to Reform. Tories are infested with wet liberals stuck in the early 2000s.

  14. But did he say anything most of reform and the tories don’t think is true? That seeing a whole city where the majority group of a country is not the majority is a sign of “failing integration”? I’d honestly be surprised if this isn’t what most of them thought, so why are they all clutching their pearls?

  15. TheLimeyLemmon on

    Robert Jenrick can bang on about integration all he likes but I bet he’s not going to places in Cumbria and saying “I haven’t seen a single brown face around here, this isn’t the kind of country I want to live in”

  16. BritanniaGlory on

    I don’t think his comments were bad at all and certainly not bad enough to lose the whip.

    A serious party would remove his whip (and Cleverly) for obvious and pubilc plotting against the leader.

  17. I don’t know how to exercise a “strip whip from Robert Jenrick”. My dad was a modest man, he used a belt and he administered it by himself.

  18. The problem isn’t pointing out what he saw. The problem is the statement after about not liking it.