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    Public transport industry association plans to abolish the Halbtax/demi-tarif

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    1. Suspicious_Place1270 on

      Will the radical digitalization and simplification also commit to cheaper pricing?

      I think not

    2. HastyLemur201 on

      How many of the people who came up with this obscenely stupid idea failed upwards from SNCF and DB ?

    3. candycane7 on

      I don’t mind another pricing system but this thing seems so obscure. Somehow the more you take the train the less you pay? How are you supposed to budget for that?

    4. crystalchuck on

      > Die neuen Billettpreise will die Branche im Laufe des nächsten Jahres festlegen. Sie sollen über dem Halbtaxtarif, aber unter dem heutigen Volltarif liegen. Laut Alliance-Swiss­pass-Geschäftsfüh­rer Helmut Eichhorn hat das einen Vorteil: «Wenn der normale Billettpreis tief genug ist, lässt ein Autofahrer sein Auto eher einmal stehen und nimmt den Zug.»

      > Aber: Teurer dürfte es für alle werden, die immer wieder Zug fahren und heute den Kaufpreis des Halbtaxabos wieder hereinholen. Für die 170 Franken muss man heute im Laufe eines Jahres bloss Tickets über 340 Franken lösen, um das Abo gegenüber den vollen Billettpreisen herauszuschlagen.

      Sooo milk the people that actually depend on public transport for daily life so you can offer lower prices for people that MIGHT use it. And of course, they don’t actually plan on getting any increased revenue. Right.

    5. tremblt_ on

      Just a quick reminder that Albert Rösti is actively sabotaging SBB/CFF/FFS as well as public transportation in general. He’s fighting for unnecessary price increases just out of spite for an extremely popular public service.

      But hey: You vote for people who absolutely HATE public transportation, you get worse public transportation. Don’t act surprised

    6. AutomaticAccount6832 on

      Pro: Simplification especially when traveling across tariff zones.

      Con: More spontaneous usage. Less predictable demand. More underused or overfilled trains and buses.

    7. turbo_dude on

      it’s barely cheaper for me with a halftax (compared to driving)

      I look forward to even more stau everywhere!!

    8. LeroyoJenkins on

      A better source, from a month ago: [https://www.srf.ch/sendungen/kassensturz-espresso/espresso/projekt-my-ride-radikale-vereinfachung-des-oev-ticket-systems-soll-2027-kommen](https://www.srf.ch/sendungen/kassensturz-espresso/espresso/projekt-my-ride-radikale-vereinfachung-des-oev-ticket-systems-soll-2027-kommen)

      TL;DR:

      * Change should be revenue-neutral for the whole system
      * A new base price will be somewhere between the current Halbtax and the current full fare
      * For high users, a “distance” discount based on total distance used in a month wil apply, the futher the distance, the higher the discount

      Essentially, you don’t have to think if a Halbtax is worth or not *before* using public transit. Simply using public transit more will automatically trigger the discounts.

    10. PizzaPoweredLife on

      To me this is good news. I currently got a halbtax, but only because I got it for half of the price. Probably I will not extend it for full price.

      If someone is using public transport very often I think they will go for a GA anyway.

    11. Carbonaraficionada on

      “Car users should use the train”. “We’re cancelling the incentives for people who regularly use the train”. 🤔 Am I the only one seeing the conflicts here?

    12. un-glaublich on

      Without the Halbtax, the ticket prices are completely ridiculous and out of line with alternative transport options. So for any regular public transport user, the Halbtax (or GA) is a must.

      Abolishing the half-fare and replacing it with e.g. a 75% fare would effectively just increasing the ticket price for the majority of users with 50%. This would just push people into cars and clog up the roads even more.

    13. Silly-Interest-613 on

      I like the idea of scrapinf the half fare card, the government should just pay for it for everyone, if you don’t take the train it is your problem then.

    15. Karsa_1312 on

      Après les assurances maladie, les transports publics sans parler de toutes les autres augmentations du coût de la vie …

      Les classes populaires sont progressivement étouffées et après ça viendra pleurer quand elles se réveilleront…

    16. Rectonic92 on

      If my cars engine exploded tomorrow and i would have to let it be replaced i would still travel cheaper than via train.

    17. Chun--Chun2 on

      Sooo… get a car? You can lease a car for 200-250 a month; so you end up similar cost to GA, and get more flexibility.

      And the kicker? You keep what sbb wants to take away from you, consistency in pricing so you can actually budget it

    18. babicko90 on

      this is some bullshit. I drive a car and would not take the train even if it was 1/2 of the price to begin with. My commute would take almost twice as long, and I would have to change a few times. Like myself, all my mid aged friends own or rent a family sized property and have kids who go to the local school. Moving isn’t an option, and the place of residence should not impede your career development or the ability to provide.

      When you look at the autobahn in the morning, it is lorries, a bunch of those white vans with painters, electricians and other trades, and a bunch of company cars (including mine). All those amount up to more than 50% of the traffic, in my opinion. You cannot move those people to the train.

      The comments of these guys are just a money grab for the people already using trains.

    19. justyannicc on

      If this happens I am done. I have already been thinking about taking on debt to buy a scooter to get to places a little quicker. I can amortize it easily over the next few years since I would be taking public transport less.

      But I haven’t done it since I generally don’t want to take on debt. However if this happens, I am done. There is no reason not do it since the price, not factoring in the value of my time, becomes too large to ignore.

    22. dgames_90 on

      They probably went to McKinsey or some useless overpriced consultancy company and got told to push everyone to the yearly abo instead.

      GA holders don’t pay half fare. So they are just pushing you to it.

    24. sschueller on

      An Initiative for free public transport where everyone pays CHF 1 per day and CHF 2 if you make more than 100k seems like an attractive alternative at this point and would cover the 4B they get now in ticket sales[1]. People can still pay extra for 1. class.

      Make everyone pay, even people who do not use it. Car drivers benefit too when less people are on the roads so I don’t want to hear it.

      [1] https://reporting.sbb.ch/en/transportation