Obesity, lack of health care, lack of education, and then, eventually, lack of vaccination.
Whornz4 on
Is this surprising? The average age of Hawaii residents is 8 years longer than Mississippi or West Virginia residents.
new_jill_city on
Mistrust of the medical establishment and fewer healthcare resources in Republican-dominated rural areas
manofredearth on
Republican corruption, greed, and misinformation.
Son_of_Plato on
People used to know how dumb they were and actually listen to advice and fall in line. Now everyone has access to infinite validation on the internet and think they know everything and listen to nobody.
VolkRiot on
Republicans represent a lot of poor and uneducated people looking to blame someone other than the wealthy and powerful interests that dictate their entire party’s platform.
tapdancinghellspawn on
So many reasons. Poor diet. Bad to no health care. Misinformation about covid, etc.
KiwasiGames on
That graph is pretty self explanatory. The red line is flat since around 2010 and the blue line keeps dropping.
That would suggest that people on the blue line are taking advantage of new scientific advances and red people aren’t.
The_Bjorn_Identity on
This is the kind of thing thats hard to *scientifically* pinpoint but, like, we all know why
New_Celebration906 on
Republicans aren’t praying hard enough.
chowmushi on
So I recently asked my doctor for a prescription to get the newly restricted COVID vaccine. I figured the idiots in the health department had made this mandatory. I found out that NYS does not restrict the COVID vaccine and I can just go get it at the local pharmacy. Maybe sensible decisions help people in blue states live longer?
Miklay83 on
Bad food and overpriced healthcare.
dogmealyem on
Effective public health interventions are usually practical, boots on the ground stuff, not necessarily new innovations- accessible clinics, affordable preventative care, pollution control, access to nutritious food and safe housing, addiction treatment, road and pedestrian safety, that kinda thing. It’s done by infrastructure and social programs which need government investment. Republicans tend to cut those investments.
CanadianLadyMoose on
Red states have:
– Less and often worse education (creationism in science classes, abstinence only sex ed)
– More guns
– higher obesity rates
– less access and to worse Healthcare (such as rural communities having fewer hospitals, and smaller hospitals that have to transfer patients elsewhere for procedures when they lack equipment)
– distrust of medical science leading to lower vaccination rates, fewer checkups, less pediatric involvement, and inappropriate/harmful experimental home treatments
– more privatized/less regulated industries and thus worse infrastructure leading to poorer air, soil, and water qualities
– more likely to legalize and participate in inbreeding (first cousin marriages)
– lower rates of post secondary education
– low media literacy, low media access
Gullible-Apricot3379 on
Red counties tend to be rural. Blue counties tend to be urban.
I wonder how this would chart against a metric like average distance from a hospital, or more specifically, from a stroke center or trauma center.
Kelathos on
A people who reject scientific advancement are going to miss the prosperity it brings.
pennylanebarbershop on
I suspect the mortality gap grew even bigger during the COVID-19 pandemic when Republicans disproportionately eschewed the vaccines.
snmnky9490 on
Literally the line below the title answers your question
SeattlePurikura on
>During this third wave – which continued into early 2021 – the coronavirus death rate among the 20% of Americans living in counties that supported Trump by the highest margins in 2020 was about 170% of the death rate among the one-in-five Americans living in counties that supported Biden by the largest margins.
I read a study (trying to remember where) and the epidemiologists were shocked that literal politics alone (not the usual socioeconomic / gender / racial / region gaps) were the biggest predictor of the COVID death rate.
mmoore327 on
Telling people to ignore the experts has consequences…
Thin_Cable4155 on
Republicans think that if they eat a salad someone will call them gay. And then they have to suck a dick. That’s the rules.
SustainedSuspense on
“Big pharma” is out to get them
Prasiatko on
Could it be an Urban vs Rural divide? More likely to survive a stroke or heart attack if it happens in the middle of a city where a hospital is minutes away vs a rural town where it could be an hour to the nearest hospital which likely still doesn’t have the cutting edge equipment the city hospital does.
LateralThinkerer on
Scientific advancement is useless if people can’t or won’t use them. I live in an area where one of the growing concerns is pertussis (whooping cough). There has been a vaccine for that since 1912, it’s freely available from health departments, and we have babies dying of it. **FFS**.
om_steadily on
That data is 6 years old, and partisanship has increased dramatically in that time. Would love to see more up to date data.
asapdeze on
I’m guessing it’s because there’s a growing gap between the rich and poor, and advancements in society are just too expensive for the everyday person.
hirespeed on
How do we know where they lived though?
Paolito14 on
Social determinants of health
Gorillionaire83 on
The obvious explanation here is that Republicans tend to be older so GOP counties have older populations, which tend to die more frequently.
ReporterBest9598 on
Scientific advancements come earlier to the cities where Democrats tend to reside. It could take another ten years for a midsize county in Montana to have the same hospital tech as a midsize county in California.
D-Stecks on
It’s because red states are poor
pierebean on
The trend is clear but errorbars should be added.
MrMathamagician on
Better uptake of Obamacare, Medicare expansion and healthcare safety nets surely plays a big role. Things like obesity would not change this quickly and gun violence does not move the needle visibly on a scale like this.
EC36339 on
Data is beautiful when you cut the Y axis.
not_kelsey_grammar on
Some people have $, but many more do not. I think you’ll find a very strong correlation between wealth and health generally speaking.
Acornwow on
Greed. It’s a bunch of things but behind all of it is greed.
GaiusMarcus on
People are dumb and believe anything Shamusolini tells them.
galaxyapp on
So many narratives.
The answer is drugs, murder, and suicide. Accidental injury is up there as well, household falls, car wrecks, etc. Also infant mortality.
Healthcare is a footnote. Its very rare to die of a curable desease.
Life expectancy is largely impacted by unnatural deaths which tend to occur at a younger age which has a disproportionate impact on the average.
I’ve got all kinds of issues with this pseudoscience.
– Rural: Probably more road deaths per capita than urban
– Rural: Probably more physically risky occupations (agriculture, mining, oil, etc.)
– Rural: Probably slower response times and longer distance to emergency medical care
– Individual Red states have vastly different challenges. MS is a shooting gallery among the 15-35 black male population. WV has opiods and deep poverty. SD has Native American reservations. Montana, with the highest per capita gun ownership, has the lowest homicide rate in the nation….but high on gun suicides for older white men. I could go on….
Trying to average out all the different factors in each of the different states into a single dot on a graph and imply it is solely based on how some fractional majority of those who actually voted in a single election to choose one person from two candidates…is just shallow stupid “thinking”.
LurkingWeirdo88 on
What about average age of urban population vs rural one?
anomalous_cowherd on
Not everybody chooses to partake in the science advancements…
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Obesity, lack of health care, lack of education, and then, eventually, lack of vaccination.
Is this surprising? The average age of Hawaii residents is 8 years longer than Mississippi or West Virginia residents.
Mistrust of the medical establishment and fewer healthcare resources in Republican-dominated rural areas
Republican corruption, greed, and misinformation.
People used to know how dumb they were and actually listen to advice and fall in line. Now everyone has access to infinite validation on the internet and think they know everything and listen to nobody.
Republicans represent a lot of poor and uneducated people looking to blame someone other than the wealthy and powerful interests that dictate their entire party’s platform.
So many reasons. Poor diet. Bad to no health care. Misinformation about covid, etc.
That graph is pretty self explanatory. The red line is flat since around 2010 and the blue line keeps dropping.
That would suggest that people on the blue line are taking advantage of new scientific advances and red people aren’t.
This is the kind of thing thats hard to *scientifically* pinpoint but, like, we all know why
Republicans aren’t praying hard enough.
So I recently asked my doctor for a prescription to get the newly restricted COVID vaccine. I figured the idiots in the health department had made this mandatory. I found out that NYS does not restrict the COVID vaccine and I can just go get it at the local pharmacy. Maybe sensible decisions help people in blue states live longer?
Bad food and overpriced healthcare.
Effective public health interventions are usually practical, boots on the ground stuff, not necessarily new innovations- accessible clinics, affordable preventative care, pollution control, access to nutritious food and safe housing, addiction treatment, road and pedestrian safety, that kinda thing. It’s done by infrastructure and social programs which need government investment. Republicans tend to cut those investments.
Red states have:
– Less and often worse education (creationism in science classes, abstinence only sex ed)
– More guns
– higher obesity rates
– less access and to worse Healthcare (such as rural communities having fewer hospitals, and smaller hospitals that have to transfer patients elsewhere for procedures when they lack equipment)
– distrust of medical science leading to lower vaccination rates, fewer checkups, less pediatric involvement, and inappropriate/harmful experimental home treatments
– more privatized/less regulated industries and thus worse infrastructure leading to poorer air, soil, and water qualities
– more likely to legalize and participate in inbreeding (first cousin marriages)
– lower rates of post secondary education
– low media literacy, low media access
Red counties tend to be rural. Blue counties tend to be urban.
I wonder how this would chart against a metric like average distance from a hospital, or more specifically, from a stroke center or trauma center.
A people who reject scientific advancement are going to miss the prosperity it brings.
I suspect the mortality gap grew even bigger during the COVID-19 pandemic when Republicans disproportionately eschewed the vaccines.
Literally the line below the title answers your question
>During this third wave – which continued into early 2021 – the coronavirus death rate among the 20% of Americans living in counties that supported Trump by the highest margins in 2020 was about 170% of the death rate among the one-in-five Americans living in counties that supported Biden by the largest margins.
[https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/)
I read a study (trying to remember where) and the epidemiologists were shocked that literal politics alone (not the usual socioeconomic / gender / racial / region gaps) were the biggest predictor of the COVID death rate.
Telling people to ignore the experts has consequences…
Republicans think that if they eat a salad someone will call them gay. And then they have to suck a dick. That’s the rules.
“Big pharma” is out to get them
Could it be an Urban vs Rural divide? More likely to survive a stroke or heart attack if it happens in the middle of a city where a hospital is minutes away vs a rural town where it could be an hour to the nearest hospital which likely still doesn’t have the cutting edge equipment the city hospital does.
Scientific advancement is useless if people can’t or won’t use them. I live in an area where one of the growing concerns is pertussis (whooping cough). There has been a vaccine for that since 1912, it’s freely available from health departments, and we have babies dying of it. **FFS**.
That data is 6 years old, and partisanship has increased dramatically in that time. Would love to see more up to date data.
I’m guessing it’s because there’s a growing gap between the rich and poor, and advancements in society are just too expensive for the everyday person.
How do we know where they lived though?
Social determinants of health
The obvious explanation here is that Republicans tend to be older so GOP counties have older populations, which tend to die more frequently.
Scientific advancements come earlier to the cities where Democrats tend to reside. It could take another ten years for a midsize county in Montana to have the same hospital tech as a midsize county in California.
It’s because red states are poor
The trend is clear but errorbars should be added.
Better uptake of Obamacare, Medicare expansion and healthcare safety nets surely plays a big role. Things like obesity would not change this quickly and gun violence does not move the needle visibly on a scale like this.
Data is beautiful when you cut the Y axis.
Some people have $, but many more do not. I think you’ll find a very strong correlation between wealth and health generally speaking.
Greed. It’s a bunch of things but behind all of it is greed.
People are dumb and believe anything Shamusolini tells them.
So many narratives.
The answer is drugs, murder, and suicide. Accidental injury is up there as well, household falls, car wrecks, etc. Also infant mortality.
Healthcare is a footnote. Its very rare to die of a curable desease.
Life expectancy is largely impacted by unnatural deaths which tend to occur at a younger age which has a disproportionate impact on the average.
Edit, this particular stat could also be as simple as different age demographics, as deaths per 100k is not controlling for age. Republicans are older. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/age-generational-cohorts-and-party-identification/
I’ve got all kinds of issues with this pseudoscience.
– Rural: Probably more road deaths per capita than urban
– Rural: Probably more physically risky occupations (agriculture, mining, oil, etc.)
– Rural: Probably slower response times and longer distance to emergency medical care
– Individual Red states have vastly different challenges. MS is a shooting gallery among the 15-35 black male population. WV has opiods and deep poverty. SD has Native American reservations. Montana, with the highest per capita gun ownership, has the lowest homicide rate in the nation….but high on gun suicides for older white men. I could go on….
Trying to average out all the different factors in each of the different states into a single dot on a graph and imply it is solely based on how some fractional majority of those who actually voted in a single election to choose one person from two candidates…is just shallow stupid “thinking”.
What about average age of urban population vs rural one?
Not everybody chooses to partake in the science advancements…