One phone call from Putin to the US president, and Ukraine is denied Tomahawks. A second call from Putin, and all Polish equipment purchased from “our greatest ally” is grounded.
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One phone call from Putin to the US president, and Ukraine is denied Tomahawks. A second call from Putin, and all Polish equipment purchased from “our greatest ally” is grounded.
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Posted by thenatoorat90
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Ive heard that his is fals, and that this is true.
Either way for short term there is not a lot we can do.
Long term tho
Well, like there was 20+ years to make a rocket/cruise missle program that’s more that enough to develop and test your own solution.
Now that would take how much ? 2-3 years ?
But that’s too bold for morons in Polish government.
Most Americans are dumb, fat and ignorant people that only care about beer, cheeseburgers and football. It goes to show how 250 years of relative stability really stupefies a society. It’s mind boggling how people will argue against their own benefits as long as their president promises no trans in sports, deportation of other races, and suckering boomers into thinking that he can bring back the old 1950s America with the nuclear family and traditional family values.
This is a conspiracy theory with no actual evidence
Thats pretty normal. No allies have the codes. Except Israel of course.
This is something that need validation I think. “kod źródłowy” (source code) usually refers to the code that is used to build the software and only end result (complied code) is shipped to end users. I imagine that shipping source code of plance/missiles firmware is huge security threat. But source code is not required to use the thing anyway. You don’t have source code of your car software for example.
Sure if somewhere there is condition that says “do not start engines on Sundays” it’s a problem. But at same time including remote killswitch in weapons would be bad for business I can image.
Please learn what source code is.
We can’t edit/add code to anything, it means we can’t add stuff like newer missiles, pods etc. without approval. I’m sure no user except Israel can do that, but they are also doing a lot of stuff locally (Elbit electronics). It’s entirely separate thing from being able to launch stuff that is already available in such systems.
Ukrainians are using totally not compatible NATO armament in their post-soviet aircraft and anti aircraft systems using translation devices
Should have bought Gripens. US is not an ally. Then again hindsight is 20-20.
It was obvious from the beginning that we won’t have access to the source code – as per deal made. You talking about Putin in this case is pure propaganda.
Disinformation spread by Onet. The former Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Army debunked that myth. The only codes that other armies don’t have are the software’s source code — which is perfectly logical in the context of protecting intellectual property and trade secrets.
Today on Reddit – people with literally no knowledge about coding anything make bold claims with zero support in facts.
Or spelled in simple terms – just another Sunday.
Onet – polish shittest of shit newspaper. Remember it.
Our president is an ass
That’s why Israel gutted entire US-made avionics from their F35 planed and replaced with their own.
This post’s and article’s titles are misinformation. Onet’s article is referring to ‘source codes’ which means the person who wrote it had absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Obviously no manufacturer will provide access to the source code of whatever software is part of their product as it’s a trade secret, unless they are selling you the technology itself and not only the final product.
As for the codes that are supposedly required to use the equipment – that’s a completely different thing and there has been no proof that such codes even exist. Blaszczak said in the interview not too long ago that there are no such codes that Polish military needs from manufacturer in order to use the equipment, so it’s basically a misinformation to influence the public.
What Poland’s F-35s could do without U.S. authorization
Basic flight: They could take off, fly, and land safely. Modern flight controls are mostly autonomous.
Weapons: They could drop unguided bombs and fire guns—essentially like the WW2 aircraft.
Limited radar and targeting: Without ALIS/ODIN updates or encryption keys, advanced sensor fusion, stealth targeting, and secure communications would be disabled or degraded. Again, like the WW2 aircraft.
80% of the F-35’s value is in its operating systems, and these require American authorisation…..
And yet, by 2035, there will be 800 F-35s in Europe, 25% of all fighting jets.
Every sophisticated high tech weapon system like helicopter, tank, aircraft can be disabled even much easier.
That tech needs much more complicated parts for mission readiness than few bolts and nuts your can make locally. And we don’t have spare parts stocks because that costs lots of money and they don’t look that good on pictures than tanks and jets.
Few dozens of real combat hours with that high tech and we’re out of spare parts needed for weekly maintenance.
That’s the real problem. USA doesn’t need to killswitch that tech. They just won’t send critical parts and ammo and it’s over within a week.
USA are not our allies. Own the stuff stop giving power to get some short-sighted convenience.
There is not a “kill switch.”However, this does not mean that there is no cause for alarm.
The United States could impose export controls on spare parts, for example, making it more difficult to maintain the aircraft at mission readiness. A similar event occurred with Iran’s F-14 fleet. It’s hard to predict how long a country like Poland could keep their fleet flying in the face of such an embargo. Given the number of militaries employing the F-35, an embargo on parts to any one would be…complicated. The same reasoning could be applied to HIMARS, etc…
It’s also important to note that the attitude in D.C. towards Poland is very different than that towards Ukraine. The Trump administration is nearly universally supportive of Poland, probably because Poland is the single-largest Foreign Military Sales buyer *in the world* at the moment and the perception of Poland as a white, Catholic country fighting hard and succeeding at keeping the immigrants out.
Of course, if Trump starts getting “history” lessons from Putin, all of that could change.
IF the US has a backdoor to disable all of this. Then if they did, then no one from that point would buy any weapons from them.
Co ciekawe izrael potrafił obejść ten problem (patrz F-35I Adir)
I don’t think the US will be listening to Putin who they should sell military equipment to .
Misinformation.
Putin could be collapsing and the threat of nuclear war has become real.
ah yes the JASSM saga continues
Poland is not Ukraine but at the end that’s what you get when you’re just dependent on some technology.
The whole story about how Americans or Trump are dependent on a phone call from Moscow is laughable. The tomahawks never were seriously on table and at most the served as some bargaining argument. Nobody takes decisions like that because of a one or another “phone call”.
Ok so im a Brit who backs Poland here. Am i to understand that F35s of the Polish air force are grounded?