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    Why is the birthrate falling in Poland

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    5. Illustrious_Letter88 on

      Kto na nich głosował??? Przecież to jest dywersja antypolska!

      “Piekło kobiet” pamiętacie?

    6. Ok_Profile_1673 on

      Like in many Europeans countries,housing crisis id say. Even with a decent salary you can’t afford a mortgage for a house

    7. NationalTruck5876 on

      To się nazywa inwestycja w przyszłość i polityka prorodzinna no i zrównoważony rozwój, chcesz mieć opiekę medyczną przy porodzie mieszkaj w 5 dużych miastach.

    8. Professional-Mix1771 on

      So the birthrate is in decline because govt will be closing down some maternity wards, not the other way around. Yeah, sure ziomek.

    9. blinkinbling on

      Imagine, that back in the days when birthrates were sky high there was no ER for women giving birth. The best they could get was a midwife that lived in the village and never attended any school

    10. Wingedball on

      People don’t live like princes and princesses as they did in the past. Everyone knows that you need all of modern day’s luxuries before you can start having kids. I can’t imagine the Wakanda of the past where people had 10 kids each. /s

      People don’t want to make concessions with the current comfort they have, and the social pressure to have kids is practically none.

    11. PsykickPriest on

      I think a sense of hopelessness about the future is pervasive among young people.

      (Of course the BASIS for that feeling of hopelessness can vary wildly from person to person, from war to climate change to personal life stability (how to get a job to achieve the middle class dream or beyond) to oh-no-I-saw-a-black-person-today to “I don’t want to live in a world where LGBTQ people can live their lives without shame or a fear of death” to doomscrolling and screen addiction….)

    12. elembelem on

      bacause educated woman have less/no children?

      [https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/fertility-rate](https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/fertility-rate)

      in 9 years, 1961-1970 the world went from stove to cubical and never recovered

      its the people of 68 and their existing/non excisting children

      [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_of_1968](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_of_1968)

      example australia

      Australian political survey and fertility rate data (by electorate/district) indicates:

      1. Strongly Left-wing/socially liberal women: TFR 1.15
      2. Left-leaning women: TFR 1.40
      3. Australian average: TFR 1.63
      4. Right-leaning women: TFR 1.95
      5. Strongly conservative women: TFR 2.05

      Women in the most conservative seat, Maranoa, have a TFR of 2.30, compared to inner-city Melbourne, at 0.65. In inner-city Melbourne nearly 80% of electors consistently indicate strongly leftist social views, whereas 85.06% of electors in Maranoa voted against racial-preferencing in the 2023 ‘Voice’ referendum and the majority (56%) voted ‘no’ in the same sex marriage plebiscite in 2017.

      The data is from all 151 Australian Federal electorates, based on 2022 Voter Compass survey data and 2023 referendum voting behaviour compared to 2022 ABS births data.

    13. necrohardware on

      Because people are happy without kids, pensions and healthcare make children irrelevant for survival, disabling the natural need for them. Any biological urges are easily redirected to pets.

      tl;dr: people don’t make kids if their needs are met.

    14. Natural_Public_9049 on

      Expensive housing (rents, mortgages), expensive food, pay not keeping up with rising prices, increasing of pension age tresholds, minimal state support.

    18. BottleBig4384 on

      Many people today prefer a comfortable life rather than raising kids for 18+ years.

      In the past, children were seen as a kind of investment  having more kids meant you wouldn’t be alone later in life, and someone would take care of you (of course, there were exceptions). But nowadays, once a child turns 18, they often move out. Family ties aren’t as strong, connections feel weaker. There are no more family lunches or breakfast tables  everyone’s busy and rushing.

      On the other hand, raising a child now requires a lot of time and money. During the medieval era, industrial revolution, or even Soviet times, it didn’t cost as much. But today, kids need language courses, private sports clubs, a laptop, a phone, and more.

      And if you want to travel, having a 4 – 5-year-old limits your plans a lot.

      I’m not even talking about other challenges — so when people weigh the pros and cons, many see more cons. That’s why a lot of people end up having just one child, or none at all.

    21. Appropriate_Okra8189 on

      Zgadzam się że napewno to nie zachęca do posiadania dziecka ale chyba kiedy ktoś myśli o założeniu rodziny to “Ale publiczne porodówki są huyowe” raczej nawet w rachunek nie wchodzi.

    22. RelationshipLazy1134 on

      What is the point of maintaining maternity wards with full staffing and infrastructure in places where only one baby is born every two weeks? It is not because maternity wards are being closed that the birth rate is falling, but because the birth rate is falling that maternity wards are being closed.

    23. bigbeichtvater on

      Because people like to Write on reddit and post on Instagram and Chat with strangers rather than making a lot more money and take responsibility for a family😅

    24. Rahlus on

      Well yes, but actually no.

      Yes, it is incredibly stupid idea to begin with.

      No, it is not a reason why birthrate is falling in Poland. Birthrate was falling for decades! It just we are now talking about it and people are thinking that things like that, what OP posted, are the reason or some of the reasons. They are not. Sure, they not exactly helping, but we hit the rock bottom few years ago, if not more. Such decision, as above, is just drilling further. Not exactly helping the issue, but nothing that would either stopped or changed current situation or trend if weren’t implemented.

    27. zyraf on

      Oh yes, because keeping empty maternity wards in rural Poland will prevent birthrate from falling. It might turn it around, even, no joke xDDD

    29. szmeagol on

      This is so funny seeing people come up with all the economic reasons for falling birthrates 🤣. The only real reason is women have a choice. Through all of human history and locations the only populations with sustainable birth rates of more than 2 were the ones which didn’t give women any choice for a fullfilling life, but becoming a mother. It’s cruel but true. I don’t like this fact, I don’t recommend it. But it’s the truth and it’s time for everyone to acknowledge it.

    30. Grand_Pomegranate671 on

      My friend in Poland has been searching for a job for 2 months now. I doubt she’d want to have kids in this situation.

    33. BidnyZolnierzLonda on

      Liberalisation, individualism and modern pop culture telling you that kids is something you wish to avoid.