Data was smoothed and averaged in Excel, then graphed using Datawrapper.
Hefty_Badger9759 on
Is it an increase, or is it more acceptable to answer “yes” these days?
Loki-L on
It is not young men who have had sex with a male partner, but those who will say they did in a survey.
There probably were a lot more who wouldn’t admit it in the past.
It might also help to put in the share of those who say they had a female sex partner for comparison.
Pistonenvy2 on
i love everyone saying “yeah well all this shows is that they are more comfortable answering the question, it doesnt actually mean the rate has increased.”
thats what data is for. you cant draw huge conclusions from a single census lol
toastedcheese on
Don’t show this to Alex Jones
Behemothheek on
12% is way higher than I expected
ikonet on
Since this is Reddit is this a good time for a rookie numbers meme?
Raidmax460 on
What’s the criteria for being considered gay sex? Asking for a friend.
JohnLocksTheKey on
Classic case of: “You’re not measuring what you think you’re measuring”
Meteowritten on
Genuinely didn’t expect 12%. I would’ve guessed like 4 or 5%.
Not sure if I’m underestimating how many people are gay, or how many people experiment or something.
BobbyP27 on
A lot of people are suggesting it is more likely a change in honesty rather than underlying activity, but I am not convinced by that. Since 2000, it has become far far less consequential to be found out engaging in same-sex activity, and the advent of hookup apps makes it far easier to actually get in a position to hook up in a discreet and relatively low risk way.
turbulentcore on
Maybe some correlation with the AIDs epidimic (teh decimation of our population) the way it was treated and how it is treated now. Along with more socially acceptable.
DrunkNonDrugz on
We’re at least double the gay now.
LupusDeusMagnus on
Does it matter what kind of sexual acts are in here? Because I know stories from old times that are wildly sexual but all participants would not perceive it as being having sex.
eilif_myrhe on
Young man, there’s no need to feel down
I said: Young man, pick yourself off the ground
I said: Young man, ’cause you’re in a new town
There’s no need to be unhappy
icebergslim3000 on
Is it an increase or just more people willing to admit yes.
Glittering-Draw-6223 on
“young men who ADMITTED to having sex with men”
cmnall on
Could also be random responding—young people just skip thru surveys and answer whatever. About the same percentage answer on surveys that they are certified to operate an SSGN submarine.
KevinDean4599 on
Seems right. There are tons of men who dip their toes in the gay pool and you would never know. Tons have wives or girlfriends.
Hard to really know what is reality. Some still feel shame and won’t report as ‘yes’. Some will say ‘yes’ just to mess with the data. Ask the same question to as many Russians or Nigerians and you will get drastically lower numbers, and not because their numbers are actually fewer.
Solomonopolistadt on
I’d be interested to see how the advent of the internet, social media, and dating apps affects the percentage of young men who have had straight sex
throwitfarawayfromm3 on
I would guess it’s more to do with social acceptibility and willingness to talk about it, rather than an actual increase.
Super-Chieftain5 on
An analogue is the graph of left-handed people over time. It’s become more culturally acceptable over time.
I’m surprised it’s rising with the fact that a lot less young people are having sex in general
pulyx on
I have in my head (like a crazy person), from observing life for 40 years that 15% of all humanity aren’t heterosexual. Across the board. Everywhere on the planet. Trans people come in about 0.05. Which shouldn’t bother absolutely fucking anyone.
The faster people learn to accept this figure as is, because there is no changing it without being a cruelty of unimaginable proportions, the better we’ll be as a species.
If you find yourself in a room full of 100, keep in mind at least 15 of them aren’t straight. Just deal with it. If you don’t have nice things to say shut the fuck up. If you can’t handle their presence go fucking live in the woods or under a rock. It’s going to be 15% everywhere. You might even be part of that 15%.
All_Usernames_Tooken on
Fellas, is it more gay to fuck a dude in the ass or get fucked in the ass?
Also, many would say oral and hand jobs don’t count as anything.
Lastly, everything is fine as long as socks stay on.
worrok on
Correction, share of men who ADMIT to having sex with another man. Â
Petrichordates on
All this while sex has been going down in general too.
wildwiscoman on
I think this can be attributed to the widespread use of grindr at CPAC/GOP conferences
BanjaraBerliner on
I support those 12%. Reducing competition for straight men.
What does the data look like for the opposite sex?
acquavaa on
Need to see the next couple years so we know whether COVID caused a bump or a…hump.
KingKombo on
Cross post to /shitposting
darksoles_ on
*number of men willing to share they’ve had sex with other men
crimeo on
* 1) Tons of people would be afraid to answer more in the earlier years
* 2) They worded it as “man” a gender term, not “male”, the sex that you are probably thinking it means. Which will cause complete chaos in modern answers
Dmused on
Maybe I should give it a try…
omicron_pi on
*admitted to
redzin on
I think this is like how left-handedness became more common when it became acceptable to be left handed.
This is also why there’s more people self-reporting as trans and non-binary now.
postconsumerwat on
Yeah men seem gay… plus women tend to be grossed out by our horrible culture so I have often lamented at how stifling our cultures lack of sensuality is… life is weird
Scruzzer on
Makes sense. The stigma and social barriers are lower now.
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Data taken from the General Social Survey, results reported on UC Berkeley’s SDA webpage, [https://sda.berkeley.edu/sdaweb/analysis/?dataset=gss24rel1](https://sda.berkeley.edu/sdaweb/analysis/?dataset=gss24rel1)
Data was smoothed and averaged in Excel, then graphed using Datawrapper.
Is it an increase, or is it more acceptable to answer “yes” these days?
It is not young men who have had sex with a male partner, but those who will say they did in a survey.
There probably were a lot more who wouldn’t admit it in the past.
It might also help to put in the share of those who say they had a female sex partner for comparison.
i love everyone saying “yeah well all this shows is that they are more comfortable answering the question, it doesnt actually mean the rate has increased.”
thats what data is for. you cant draw huge conclusions from a single census lol
Don’t show this to Alex Jones
12% is way higher than I expected
Since this is Reddit is this a good time for a rookie numbers meme?
What’s the criteria for being considered gay sex? Asking for a friend.
Classic case of: “You’re not measuring what you think you’re measuring”
Genuinely didn’t expect 12%. I would’ve guessed like 4 or 5%.
Not sure if I’m underestimating how many people are gay, or how many people experiment or something.
A lot of people are suggesting it is more likely a change in honesty rather than underlying activity, but I am not convinced by that. Since 2000, it has become far far less consequential to be found out engaging in same-sex activity, and the advent of hookup apps makes it far easier to actually get in a position to hook up in a discreet and relatively low risk way.
Maybe some correlation with the AIDs epidimic (teh decimation of our population) the way it was treated and how it is treated now. Along with more socially acceptable.
We’re at least double the gay now.
Does it matter what kind of sexual acts are in here? Because I know stories from old times that are wildly sexual but all participants would not perceive it as being having sex.
Young man, there’s no need to feel down
I said: Young man, pick yourself off the ground
I said: Young man, ’cause you’re in a new town
There’s no need to be unhappy
Is it an increase or just more people willing to admit yes.
“young men who ADMITTED to having sex with men”
Could also be random responding—young people just skip thru surveys and answer whatever. About the same percentage answer on surveys that they are certified to operate an SSGN submarine.
Seems right. There are tons of men who dip their toes in the gay pool and you would never know. Tons have wives or girlfriends.
I’d bet Grindr is a huge influence on that.
[I’ll try anything once.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj5bVc2kyVs)
wooooo! lets get it to 100 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hard to really know what is reality. Some still feel shame and won’t report as ‘yes’. Some will say ‘yes’ just to mess with the data. Ask the same question to as many Russians or Nigerians and you will get drastically lower numbers, and not because their numbers are actually fewer.
I’d be interested to see how the advent of the internet, social media, and dating apps affects the percentage of young men who have had straight sex
I would guess it’s more to do with social acceptibility and willingness to talk about it, rather than an actual increase.
An analogue is the graph of left-handed people over time. It’s become more culturally acceptable over time.
Grindr was founded in 2009…
https://preview.redd.it/eqzyhaydyn0g1.png?width=687&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e9fe7086a64b1b21bfa0d808d3700eff81986b7
surprisingly it matches perfectly with this statistic and ‘under 30’ is strictly Gen Z
[https://news.gallup.com/poll/332522/percentage-americans-lgbt.aspx](https://news.gallup.com/poll/332522/percentage-americans-lgbt.aspx)
Kalshi better let me bet on this
Homies help homies. Always.
I’m surprised it’s rising with the fact that a lot less young people are having sex in general
I have in my head (like a crazy person), from observing life for 40 years that 15% of all humanity aren’t heterosexual. Across the board. Everywhere on the planet. Trans people come in about 0.05. Which shouldn’t bother absolutely fucking anyone.
The faster people learn to accept this figure as is, because there is no changing it without being a cruelty of unimaginable proportions, the better we’ll be as a species.
If you find yourself in a room full of 100, keep in mind at least 15 of them aren’t straight. Just deal with it. If you don’t have nice things to say shut the fuck up. If you can’t handle their presence go fucking live in the woods or under a rock. It’s going to be 15% everywhere. You might even be part of that 15%.
Fellas, is it more gay to fuck a dude in the ass or get fucked in the ass?
Also, many would say oral and hand jobs don’t count as anything.
Lastly, everything is fine as long as socks stay on.
Correction, share of men who ADMIT to having sex with another man. Â
All this while sex has been going down in general too.
I think this can be attributed to the widespread use of grindr at CPAC/GOP conferences
I support those 12%. Reducing competition for straight men.
What does the data look like for the opposite sex?
Need to see the next couple years so we know whether COVID caused a bump or a…hump.
Cross post to /shitposting
*number of men willing to share they’ve had sex with other men
* 1) Tons of people would be afraid to answer more in the earlier years
* 2) They worded it as “man” a gender term, not “male”, the sex that you are probably thinking it means. Which will cause complete chaos in modern answers
Maybe I should give it a try…
*admitted to
I think this is like how left-handedness became more common when it became acceptable to be left handed.
This is also why there’s more people self-reporting as trans and non-binary now.
Yeah men seem gay… plus women tend to be grossed out by our horrible culture so I have often lamented at how stifling our cultures lack of sensuality is… life is weird
Makes sense. The stigma and social barriers are lower now.