Government releases asylum reforms in full – as Starmer warns of ‘severe strain’
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Government releases asylum reforms in full – as Starmer warns of ‘severe strain’
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>Nadia Whittome told the Commons: “The Denmark-style policies briefed in the last couple of days are dystopian …. How can we be adopting such obviously cruel policies? Is the home secretary proud that the government has sunk to such depths that it’s now being praised by [far-right activist] Tommy Robinson?”
Be interesting to see the level of resistance to what is a pretty fair and sensible bunch of changes. Labour MPs are not helping themselves by going full attack on their own parties polices that will see a lot of public support.
Funny to see Denmark being referred to so negatively when they have a Social Democrat and Liberal government as well, just more purity testing from these MPs than actual interest in fixing the system.
The Labour and other MPs opposed to such changes are more concerned with looking virtuous to a minority than the greater good of the country’s social cohesion.
I await the Labour back benchers forcing the U-turn
The core asylum vs work or education asylum just goes to show you the media furore around 20 year ILR was just nonsense.
They’re going to give you ILR much quicker for having minimum wage job.
> Kemi Badenoch has said the Conservatives will offer supportive opposition to the government’s asylum reforms – but has said they’re “nowhere near enough”.
Whilst is actually good to see the conservatives might not try and torpedo this… They had 14 years and claim this isn’t going far enough… As opposed to… I guess doing nothing…
The Danish model gets talked up as this magic fix but the reality is nowhere near as impressive.. Their asylum numbers fell mostly because of geography and EU border controls tightening, not because the ‘tough’ policies actually worked.. Copying that here wouldn’t suddenly “stop the boats” ..
What it will do is drag Labour further to the right and create an actual two tier system where people are left in limbo for years unable to settle, unable to integrate, just stuck.. even Denmark’s own experts admit it has done nothing to speed up returns or reduce desperation, it just looks harsh on paper..
If Labour are serious about fixing the mess, the answer is fast processing, proper safe routes, and getting people out of hotels not importing a model that creates more instability without solving anything..
This is very good but will unfortunately be wrecked by the moron clown left as usual. They’re out there calling Denmark a dystopia lol
I will believe it when it actually happens.
I have absolutely no faith in anything Starmer says.
Labour can kiss goodbye to power in 2029 if they don’t vote this through
So a whole bunch of relatively low cost measures that are pretty much common sense and not overly draconian. Should be acceptable to all but the Farage cultists and posturing backbenchers.
Tories had 14 years in which they could have done a mere fraction of this. Rich of them to complain that it’s not “going far enough”.
And 6 labour Mps cause a u turn even if they have a stonking majority
I moved here from Poland 19 and a half years ago. During that time I managed to master the language, finish secondary school, get a university degree, get British citizenship, a well paid job, buy a house and almost pay it off. When I go on a holiday abroad and someone asks me where I’m from, I always say NI because this is my only home.
I built my entire life over the past 19.5 years and it shaped who I am now. If someone suddenly told me today that “sorry, you haven’t been here 20 years and we feel you should leave now, your plane departs at 5pm” I don’t know how I would cope.
Fair play. I just hope their back bench doesn’t sabotage them.
Makes you wonder why the Conservatives couldn’t do all of these things. Almost everything Mahmood is talking about doing in this last week is excellent, it’s all stuff we should have done years ago.
The British public in general is compassionate to people that are in genuine need of support, and hostile to piss takers, and the feeling among a growing proportion of them is that too many of the people claiming asylum here are taking the piss and abusing our system to immigrate permanently. It’s good to change this.
It’s pretty crazy to see MPs claiming that Denmark, one of the most successful and happy social democracies in the world, is effectively far right. I don’t think the public will buy that at all.
If they spent even 10% of the time, effort and political capital they do wanting on about asylum seekers on undoing austerity we could have a much nicer country. But no, appease the unappeasable, then let them march further to the right while normalising their weird obsessions.