The law is about assisted suicide. Suicide is not prohibited in our country, only inciting or assisting in it. A healthy person can kill themselves without difficulty, a terminally ill and immobile person much more difficult. Helping the latter is a crime, which is unjust, because the most suffering and helpless have the fewest options, but at the same time have the most reasons to want death. The law eliminates this inequality, according to which suicide is reserved for those who can carry it out on their own.

This law is not about euthanasia. Euthanasia is an intervention in the patient, suicide is an independent act. Anyone who uses the term euthanasia does not know the most basic concepts necessary for this debate, or is deliberately misleading, because changing the topic allows him to worry about doctors who will suddenly be forced to kill patients or worry about patients who would start to be killed by doctors. None of these are part of this Act.

In this law, we do not decide on palliative care. Palliative care will never completely solve all scenarios, so the need for this law will remain no matter how it is regulated. Palliative care and end-of-life assistance are not interchangeable, but complement each other. Rejecting the law with the condition that palliative care be arranged first makes no sense, because it is not a matter of order. Also, if it comes down to it, palliative, whatever it is, we already have it. Rejecting the law does nothing to improve palliative care, it just brings us back to square one when we have to solve two things instead of one. Anyone who is sincere about the improvement of palliative care should be satisfied because it will be easier to attend to it under the adopted law, since it will remain the only one on the agenda. Anyone who is disturbed by the order in which the government arranges matters can express an opinion about it in the second type of vote that comes in half a year, this referendum is not for that purpose.

The fear of a gradual expansion of the criteria is hypothetical, happening in the future, dependent on the imagination, but above all it can be solved with a new referendum or a change in the law, if the need arises. Fear is not a rational basis for rejecting a law that solves real problems now. And experience from abroad can be a warning, but not a prediction, no one forces us to repeat foreign mistakes if we notice them.

The fear that patients would feel like a burden to their families is a reality even without this law. If someone feels like a burden, it comes from family relationships, not marriage. If anything, the law, with its safeguards, reduces the risk of succumbing to this burden vis-à-vis others not covered by the law. For the latter, no commissions, evaluations and verification of will are required.

Rejecting marriage would keep some alive longer because they would have no other option.

But I would encourage some to commit suicide even faster, because they would want to do it now, when they still have the chance to do it themselves.

In the previous referendum, the nation has already decided in which direction we want to resolve matters. Rejecting the law does not mean going back to the past or maintaining the status quo. Rejection means denying some of the rights we voted for and signed into law. Not because the marriage is bad, but because some people cannot come to terms with the direction society is going.

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  1. Jaz iskreno ne razumem, zakaj se preprosto ne skopira zakonodaje od bolj razvitih držav, kjer je to že vpeljano in je v uporabi dlje časa. Če tam dela zakaj ne bi kopirali dobre prakse?

  2. Zdravili te ne bomo, ker je to predrago.
    Sam odločaš, paliativa ali PpKŽ. Če prepišeš premoženje, ne bo bolelo.

  3. Najdite mi zdravnike in pravnike, ki podpirajo ta zakon. Jih nisem videl, samo politike in politične aktiviste…

  4. Nič ni narobe s pomočjo pri prostovoljnem končanju življenja, marsikaj je narobe z zakonom, ki naj bi to urejal.

  5. Če so nam zrihtali vrhunsko zdravstvo in vrhunsko dolgotrajno oskrbo, zakaj bi kdo dvomil v vrhunski suicide squad?

  6. No_Computer2375 on

    Problem je da bojo s tem zdravstvo povečal vrste vecja depresija posledica tega. Noben se nebo vec ubadal kako ti lahko pomagamo ampak kako te odresimo.

  7. thrownaway24600 on

    Bi samo še dodal: Argument, češ da je zakon slab ker bi ga kasneje lahko spremenili v zle namene (npr. s širjenjem kriterijev) ni samo hipokritičen. Je slab tudi zato, ker v resnici ni argument proti predlaganemu zakonu ampak proti čisto vsakemu novemu zakonu. Po enaki logiki:

    Strožje kazni za pijane voznike? Ne gre, ker bojo razširili kriterije in žrli narodu dnar.

    Davčne olajšave za bolj revne državljane? Ne gre, ker bojo razširili kriterije in pol noben ne bo plačeval davkov in bo vse šlo k vragu.

    Reforma zdravstva? Ne gre, bojo kasneje spremenili zakon in vse zajebali.

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    Skratka, nesmiseln argument, razen če meniš, da so dosedanji zakoni perfektni in ni treba nikol čisto nič posodobit/spremenit.

  8. To sem se glih uceri dajau z fotrom. On je proti temu ker ga skrbi da bi stare zaceli pumpat drugi naj se ze ubijejo da bi lahko podedovali od njih stvari.

    Kot primer je dau da so ga na obcini naplahtali da je podpisau napacn kos papirja, ki je postavil elektricni vodnik na na[acnem delu njegovega zemljisca.

  9. LeadingExplanation71 on

    meni je najbolsi “nas bojo vse zastrupili” kr tega nemorje narediti ze zaj ce bi si res zeleli.. malo prevec morphina pa te ni..in dvomim da bo doktorji postali zlobni kar cez noc samo zaradi zakona 😂

  10. Nasprotniki tega zakona so religijski manijaki, ki delujejo v popolnem nasprotju z svetim pismom:

    >*Janez 8,1-8*

    >*Jezus pa je krenil proti Oljski gori. Zgodaj zjutraj se je spet napotil v tempelj. Vse ljudstvo je prihajalo k njemu, on pa je sédel in jih učil. Pismouki in farizeji so tedaj pripeljali ženo, ki so jo zalotili pri prešuštvovanju. Postavili so jo v sredo in mu rekli: »Učitelj, tole ženo smo zasačili v prešuštvovanju. Mojzes nam je v postavi ukazal take kamnati. Kaj pa ti praviš?« To so govorili, ker so ga preizkušali, da bi ga mogli tožiti. Jezus se je sklonil in s prstom pisal po tleh. Ko pa so ga kar naprej spraševali, se je vzravnal in jim rekel:* ***»Kdor izmed vas je brez greha, naj prvi vrže kamen vanjo.«***

    Sem agnostik, ampak imem več kot 30 izvlečkov iz svetega pisma O BRIGANJU ZA SEBE. Če je samomor greh, kdo si misliš da si ti, da bi njemu sodil?

    Če res obstaja pekel, potem se bodo najbolj pobožni kristjani cvrli v najglobjih in najbolj vročih votlinah pekla. Hudič sam bo z vilami mešal kotel vrelega olja, v katerem se bojo kuhali!

    https://preview.redd.it/mzdm02dp4o2g1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=92af7858164acda37d8c749d6013ecd9e4963cb7

  11. Zakon je slab, tudi marsikateri ateistični zdravstveni delavec je proti trenutno spisanemu zakonu.
    Najbolj so za, samo tisti, ki bodo imeli s tem najmanj opravka….

  12. AppleMadeAccountN11 on

    Desničarje skrbi, da bojo tisti isti zdravniki ki so na vso silo proti zakonu, po sprejetju začeli množično zastrupljat nemočne osamljene starce.

  13. Najbolj realen pogovor glede tega zakona sem imel z mojo frizerko. Njej sta oba starša umrla zaradi raka. Na referendum ne bo šla. Je pa drugače zaenkrat proti. Pravi da paliativne oskrbe v Sloveniji praktično ni. Hospic se baje samo iz donacij financira (moram še preverit to izjavood Lotriča) baje da klinični v Ljubljani ma nek tak oddelek, ampak je tok majhen da ne dobiš pojstelje. Res je bilo zanimivo poslušat njeno mnenje. S frizerko sem imel bolj kontruktivno in zanimivo debato kot od poslušanja vseh teh kao kvazi strokovnjakov ma TVju.