Ffs, they’re considering a rise when the real question is if they should exist.
Martinonfire on
They are pricing themselves out of the market, you just have to look at how many people have decided not to bother.
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seany1212 on
A lot of the recent generations don’t consume media in the same way. Whether that shows, films or audio, and while there are certainly some generations that still consume it in a mechanism that the BBC take advantage of, there needs to be a shakeup on this exploitation that the BBC seem to be allowed to get away with.
aredddit on
It’s time to just end the license fee. More and more people are openly not paying it and there’s no value in giving capita nearly £100 p/a to legally harass people.
Eric_Olthwaite_ on
Just give it up BBC, no-one will be paying this in 10 years, The Licence fee is dead.
Ceftiofur on
They could double the price for all I care.
Not paying it lol
-info-sec- on
We happily pay for Prime, Netflix & Spotify Premium. We don’t pay for that BBC TV Licence.
Nearly all our TVs (x7) launch straight into a Fire stick via HDMI; the BBC TV licence is done.
plastic_alloys on
If it were up to me, I’d make 2 big changes – it would be just funded by regular taxation – and would stop trying to compete with the other channels for creating dross. It should focus on things that perhaps wouldn’t be commercially viable otherwise. Educational, niche, weird. Some of the little segments you get on Radio 4 are still like this, really out-there stuff that introduces you to something you’d never have heard of elsewhere. I wish the TV channels were more like that.
Dr_Passmore on
Only needed if you watch/record live TV or use iPlayer.
You can avoid paying £174 easily
Rekyht on
I love a good Reddit thread on the tv license, because it’s one of those issues that shows how out of touch this place is
Wizzardchimp on
Once this nonsense ends… we will look back and think what the hell were we doing paying for so long…
aukstais on
Except for the news, BBC really dont offer anything to the newer generation. And i don’t think that asking people who watch SKY sports to give BBC free money is a reasonable thing to do. It’s like if you pay SKY for the internet, you would also be required to pay the same amount to Openteach so everyone could have access to their infrastructure.
ToffeeAppleCider on
Give me a per month option now. It’s not fair that I pay a full year but only watch one or two things.
Gargoyn on
Unpopular opinion but I’ll say it.
Id rather they scrapped the licence fee and just took it out of taxesz simplify the whole thing and reduce costs trying to recoup funds.
Yes there are people who don’t watch BBC shows, but there are also people who barely use other government funded services
StoicType4 on
The BBC are in the death spiral of ever-diminishing customers with ever-increasing prices. Without course correction this will only end one way.
tykeoldboy on
The BBC need that extra 3.8% to pay the prize money in all the game shows the BBC now show
Sea-Caterpillar-255 on
People: billionaires control the media, it’s bias, we can’t be a democracy without news, kids should be able to watch something other than brain rot Chinese propaganda
People when asked to pay a few quid a week for an alternative: this is fascism, you can have the money when you pry it from my cold dead hands, I won’t pay!
People a year after it’s broken up and sold off: maybe we should have kept it.
Oneill95 on
The only conventional TV channels I watch are Sky Sports. To get that I need to pay both Sky & BBC. Feels like there’s something wrong there.
HHall3005 on
It’s literally cheaper to use 4 streaming services than it is to pay for Sky.
Extension_Pie2602 on
I despise the licence fee, so much so I don’t pay it and dont watch live tv.I actually hate the BBC because of it.
That said, I grew up in the 70s and 80s when the BBC was top notch, I still believe we need it as others have said, it does wield some soft power around the world for us but,
The licence fee is at an end- the BBC know it- the government’s now and of the past know and knew it. If this charter gets renewed in 2027 I think everyone will take a stand and I pray they do.
Either make the BBC find it’s own funds or add it into taxation if the government insist it needs subsidising.
Every company in this world has to earn its right to exist, the BBC has been bottle fed by our pockets since it was born and we’ve had enough!
If it is as valuable and good value for money as they say it is then prove it
SavingsSquare2649 on
Just add a duty to all streaming services that goes towards the bbc and scrap the licence fee
Extension_Pie2602 on
Yeah £14.54 per month but some poor sucker has to find a years installments in 6 months!
So £29.08 a month 🤣
Over_Law4255 on
The website has been down for ages and nobody answering phones when I called to cancel
Darkurn on
Fuck off I’m not paying it anyway I don’t even use the bastard TV channels they’re all shite
appletinicyclone on
Wish they’d do that for O2 and mobile phone contracts
CthulhusEvilTwin on
That photo just screams ‘why the fuck are we watching this shit?’
tofer85 on
They can put it up by whatever they like… people still won’t pay
kerplunkerfish on
Jokes on them, I’m just itching for the TV license inspector man to come to the door so I can laugh in his face so hard I hyperventilate and pass out.
Beneficial-Pitch-430 on
So many people in here that refuse to pay and assume the BBC is just BBC 1+2 with ‘shite programs’
It offers so much more than that, there’s a whole ad free educational section for school children along with children’s entertainment which is sold all over the world. The BBC earns money.
The vast amount of talent trained at the BBC and their training programs are unmatched.
BBC news being an actual reliable, unbiased source (despite the arguments, not much can be shown to be biased since its inception) with an entire verify section for doubters to try and prove them wrong.
Vast array of radio stations which are AD FREE and pay artists fairly.
Some of the biggest shows on the planet came from the BBC.
Deervember on
If they want people to pay for it, why not just make it an app like Netflix where you log in to watch/read/listen?
I don’t want to pay for something I never use.
Upper-Level5723 on
I have found better, cheaper, alternatives with more stuff I want to watch.
Bbc had some good stuff, *decades ago*. I have no interest to watch strictly come dancing or their *horrendous, terrible* sitcoms likeMrs browns boys/gavin and stacey/Mr Khan etc.
You can only trojan horse so much shite behind the “but we need bbc for the neeews!” -angle. In that case, just do the news. Bbc news, one channel, cut out the rest and charge less for the license or small amount from taxes.
The rest of the “content” can be funded separately. on demand, adverts, I don’t care.
iTzHazZx on
Scrap it and paywall BBC iPlayer. Let people choose if they want to watch what’s on the BBC
Thorazine_Chaser on
Perhaps we’re talking cross purposes here? The BBC as we have it now is orders of magnitude too large to administer what would be a very modest government arts grant. The processes that the BBC follow would be impractical and the administration skills set would likely be misaligned, like asking the CEO of BP to manage a petrol station.
Could there be a few people currently at the bbc who’re exactly the right people to manage the new grant? Yep sure. They’re probably a couple of layers down from board level right now though.
ding_0_dong on
At this rate any rise could be financed by reduction in staff
Damn_sun on
Why is it when you declare you have no intention of watching live TV they treat you like a criminal. The true crime is you have to pay to watch live independant media while all the money goes to the BBC.
FormerIntroduction23 on
Who cares, just don’t buy one if it’s not worth it.
Eastenders is shit
AspectInternal1342 on
They can fuck off.
It’s not worth it given the amount of live TV I watch.
I’ll easily withdraw my license fee and give up the Beeb.
Dogshit reporting. Platforming dickbag farage.
I mostly like the Beeb but it’s definitely from a nostalgic pov. Would be happy to see the end of their shite regime
Electronic-Tea-8753 on
The biggest problem is the BBC senior executives’ sense of entitlement- they don’t understand that lecturing Joe Public that the BBC should continue to be fully funded by the public regardless of how the licence payers actually value BBC’s output is alienating.
That recent nonsense where they stated that the licence fee could be dropped, but BBC is then funded by tax was an example of how not to read the room.
The licence fee may well compare favourably with Sky or Netflix- but the fact is that viewers choose to pay for the streamer because they dont feel that they’re getting what they want to watch from BBC and the others.
Still only a month and Mrs Brown’s Boys will be probably be back on, flying the flag for quality BBC Christmas comedy. We’ll all be bellowing our support from the rooftops after enjoying that.
Affectionate_Way_764 on
In light of the ongoing debate over licence fees and the questionable enforcement methods of said fees, I’d like to offer my opinion on what the future of the BBC should look like. I’d like a ‘core’ service taken from general taxation that covers the news (irrelevantof where you think the BBCs bias lies, i think we can all agree its much less biased than GBN), weather, panorama/other documentaries, educational shows, radio, and the world service (as other comments point out, its a potent soft power tool that I dont think we should be ignoring). On top of the core services, have a voluntary subscription for additional features like the soaps and dramas, or the sports. Part of the issue is that the BBC has become way too bloated in the cost of producing dramas and soaps, or licence sports, and people just dont want to be paying for it. I know its self centred, but I haven’t watched any sports on the BBC because they just dont feature the sports i generally like so I dont think I should have the cost of licencing coverage of football matches on my bill.
I am open to suggestions, but I think a single payer core service with voluntary additions is the way forward to secure the future of the BBC and its work, the way things are going its going to keep building resentment until the national backlash hits a point of no return and hasty, poorly planned decisions are made with more sweeping damage to the service.
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Ffs, they’re considering a rise when the real question is if they should exist.
They are pricing themselves out of the market, you just have to look at how many people have decided not to bother.
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A lot of the recent generations don’t consume media in the same way. Whether that shows, films or audio, and while there are certainly some generations that still consume it in a mechanism that the BBC take advantage of, there needs to be a shakeup on this exploitation that the BBC seem to be allowed to get away with.
It’s time to just end the license fee. More and more people are openly not paying it and there’s no value in giving capita nearly £100 p/a to legally harass people.
Just give it up BBC, no-one will be paying this in 10 years, The Licence fee is dead.
They could double the price for all I care.
Not paying it lol
We happily pay for Prime, Netflix & Spotify Premium. We don’t pay for that BBC TV Licence.
Nearly all our TVs (x7) launch straight into a Fire stick via HDMI; the BBC TV licence is done.
If it were up to me, I’d make 2 big changes – it would be just funded by regular taxation – and would stop trying to compete with the other channels for creating dross. It should focus on things that perhaps wouldn’t be commercially viable otherwise. Educational, niche, weird. Some of the little segments you get on Radio 4 are still like this, really out-there stuff that introduces you to something you’d never have heard of elsewhere. I wish the TV channels were more like that.
Only needed if you watch/record live TV or use iPlayer.
You can avoid paying £174 easily
I love a good Reddit thread on the tv license, because it’s one of those issues that shows how out of touch this place is
Once this nonsense ends… we will look back and think what the hell were we doing paying for so long…
Except for the news, BBC really dont offer anything to the newer generation. And i don’t think that asking people who watch SKY sports to give BBC free money is a reasonable thing to do. It’s like if you pay SKY for the internet, you would also be required to pay the same amount to Openteach so everyone could have access to their infrastructure.
Give me a per month option now. It’s not fair that I pay a full year but only watch one or two things.
Unpopular opinion but I’ll say it.
Id rather they scrapped the licence fee and just took it out of taxesz simplify the whole thing and reduce costs trying to recoup funds.
Yes there are people who don’t watch BBC shows, but there are also people who barely use other government funded services
The BBC are in the death spiral of ever-diminishing customers with ever-increasing prices. Without course correction this will only end one way.
The BBC need that extra 3.8% to pay the prize money in all the game shows the BBC now show
People: billionaires control the media, it’s bias, we can’t be a democracy without news, kids should be able to watch something other than brain rot Chinese propaganda
People when asked to pay a few quid a week for an alternative: this is fascism, you can have the money when you pry it from my cold dead hands, I won’t pay!
People a year after it’s broken up and sold off: maybe we should have kept it.
The only conventional TV channels I watch are Sky Sports. To get that I need to pay both Sky & BBC. Feels like there’s something wrong there.
It’s literally cheaper to use 4 streaming services than it is to pay for Sky.
I despise the licence fee, so much so I don’t pay it and dont watch live tv.I actually hate the BBC because of it.
That said, I grew up in the 70s and 80s when the BBC was top notch, I still believe we need it as others have said, it does wield some soft power around the world for us but,
The licence fee is at an end- the BBC know it- the government’s now and of the past know and knew it. If this charter gets renewed in 2027 I think everyone will take a stand and I pray they do.
Either make the BBC find it’s own funds or add it into taxation if the government insist it needs subsidising.
Every company in this world has to earn its right to exist, the BBC has been bottle fed by our pockets since it was born and we’ve had enough!
If it is as valuable and good value for money as they say it is then prove it
Just add a duty to all streaming services that goes towards the bbc and scrap the licence fee
Yeah £14.54 per month but some poor sucker has to find a years installments in 6 months!
So £29.08 a month 🤣
The website has been down for ages and nobody answering phones when I called to cancel
Fuck off I’m not paying it anyway I don’t even use the bastard TV channels they’re all shite
Wish they’d do that for O2 and mobile phone contracts
That photo just screams ‘why the fuck are we watching this shit?’
They can put it up by whatever they like… people still won’t pay
Jokes on them, I’m just itching for the TV license inspector man to come to the door so I can laugh in his face so hard I hyperventilate and pass out.
So many people in here that refuse to pay and assume the BBC is just BBC 1+2 with ‘shite programs’
It offers so much more than that, there’s a whole ad free educational section for school children along with children’s entertainment which is sold all over the world. The BBC earns money.
The vast amount of talent trained at the BBC and their training programs are unmatched.
BBC news being an actual reliable, unbiased source (despite the arguments, not much can be shown to be biased since its inception) with an entire verify section for doubters to try and prove them wrong.
Vast array of radio stations which are AD FREE and pay artists fairly.
Some of the biggest shows on the planet came from the BBC.
If they want people to pay for it, why not just make it an app like Netflix where you log in to watch/read/listen?
I don’t want to pay for something I never use.
I have found better, cheaper, alternatives with more stuff I want to watch.
Bbc had some good stuff, *decades ago*. I have no interest to watch strictly come dancing or their *horrendous, terrible* sitcoms likeMrs browns boys/gavin and stacey/Mr Khan etc.
You can only trojan horse so much shite behind the “but we need bbc for the neeews!” -angle. In that case, just do the news. Bbc news, one channel, cut out the rest and charge less for the license or small amount from taxes.
The rest of the “content” can be funded separately. on demand, adverts, I don’t care.
Scrap it and paywall BBC iPlayer. Let people choose if they want to watch what’s on the BBC
Perhaps we’re talking cross purposes here? The BBC as we have it now is orders of magnitude too large to administer what would be a very modest government arts grant. The processes that the BBC follow would be impractical and the administration skills set would likely be misaligned, like asking the CEO of BP to manage a petrol station.
Could there be a few people currently at the bbc who’re exactly the right people to manage the new grant? Yep sure. They’re probably a couple of layers down from board level right now though.
At this rate any rise could be financed by reduction in staff
Why is it when you declare you have no intention of watching live TV they treat you like a criminal. The true crime is you have to pay to watch live independant media while all the money goes to the BBC.
Who cares, just don’t buy one if it’s not worth it.
Eastenders is shit
They can fuck off.
It’s not worth it given the amount of live TV I watch.
I’ll easily withdraw my license fee and give up the Beeb.
Dogshit reporting. Platforming dickbag farage.
I mostly like the Beeb but it’s definitely from a nostalgic pov. Would be happy to see the end of their shite regime
The biggest problem is the BBC senior executives’ sense of entitlement- they don’t understand that lecturing Joe Public that the BBC should continue to be fully funded by the public regardless of how the licence payers actually value BBC’s output is alienating.
That recent nonsense where they stated that the licence fee could be dropped, but BBC is then funded by tax was an example of how not to read the room.
The licence fee may well compare favourably with Sky or Netflix- but the fact is that viewers choose to pay for the streamer because they dont feel that they’re getting what they want to watch from BBC and the others.
Still only a month and Mrs Brown’s Boys will be probably be back on, flying the flag for quality BBC Christmas comedy. We’ll all be bellowing our support from the rooftops after enjoying that.
In light of the ongoing debate over licence fees and the questionable enforcement methods of said fees, I’d like to offer my opinion on what the future of the BBC should look like. I’d like a ‘core’ service taken from general taxation that covers the news (irrelevantof where you think the BBCs bias lies, i think we can all agree its much less biased than GBN), weather, panorama/other documentaries, educational shows, radio, and the world service (as other comments point out, its a potent soft power tool that I dont think we should be ignoring). On top of the core services, have a voluntary subscription for additional features like the soaps and dramas, or the sports. Part of the issue is that the BBC has become way too bloated in the cost of producing dramas and soaps, or licence sports, and people just dont want to be paying for it. I know its self centred, but I haven’t watched any sports on the BBC because they just dont feature the sports i generally like so I dont think I should have the cost of licencing coverage of football matches on my bill.
I am open to suggestions, but I think a single payer core service with voluntary additions is the way forward to secure the future of the BBC and its work, the way things are going its going to keep building resentment until the national backlash hits a point of no return and hasty, poorly planned decisions are made with more sweeping damage to the service.