2016-2020: If you mention negatives of brexit you’re a doom and gloomer. Remoaner.
2020-2024: Don’t mention the ‘B word’.
2025: Okay yes, Brexit did damage.
Slowly, slowly the window of acceptable discourse in government is shifting.
Agreeable_Falcon1044 on
If only this starmer chap was in a position where he could make some changes to reverse the damage?
We have spent two weeks and counting arguing over chicken feed small amounts in a budget…whilst ignoring the infinity bigger “black hole” caused by brexit.
steepleton on
He won’t like how the EU points out his authoritarianism is incompatible with their utopian ideals.
Let Scotland get it’s independence, rejoin the EU, and let migration decide who the folk prefer.
Personally, I’ll be breaking out the andy stewart vinyl
Matt-J-McCormack on
The closer EU ties I want are to be back in the fucking EU.
Impressive-Bird-6085 on
This is welcome news.
However, I will say, the fact excruciatingly painful glacial acceptance of the damage Brexit is doing to the U.K., the need for closer commercial ties with the EU and the necessary shift in policy and discourse by Starmer and the Labour government is extremely embarrassing to witness. I don’t think it’s doing them many favours either…..
B0797S458W on
I’ll bet that by the next election Starmer and Reeves will have done more economic damage than Brexit.
Banana-train2131 on
If we can move past talking about Brexit benefits – there aren’t any – and towards reversing at least some of our national self harm, then that is positive.
Maybe Starmer is not a lost cause after all.
Mobile_Falcon8639 on
That’s good very good if the Prime Minister and the government are finally admitting that Brexit was a disaster.
Sindy51 on
The Brexit denial is finally dwindling. The next election will be all about Farage versus returning to the single market and the EU customs union.
Even if Farage wins, he’ll likely tank the economy further simply because of who he is and the ideology he represents. Nobody will want to do business with him or take him seriously. It would be similar to the end of Boris’s tenure, when every time he opened his mouth it had a negative effect on the markets.
So either way, the UK will end up learning the hard way (again), or it will finally hold its hand up and admit the Brexit was most historic political error made in peacetime by any modern nation.and it needs fixed for the sake of prosperity.
Due_Ad_3200 on
The most immediate thing he could do is negotiate a deal with the EU on defence procurement. Canada seems to have managed.
Scrapping the £ isn’t going to happen full stop, that’s just a convenient red herring.
Poland joined the EU 21 years ago and they still use the Zloty. They won’t be giving it up anytime soon either.
fitzgoldy on
Well…didn’t fucking work giving up ‘the fish’ and we got nothing in return.
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2016-2020: If you mention negatives of brexit you’re a doom and gloomer. Remoaner.
2020-2024: Don’t mention the ‘B word’.
2025: Okay yes, Brexit did damage.
Slowly, slowly the window of acceptable discourse in government is shifting.
If only this starmer chap was in a position where he could make some changes to reverse the damage?
We have spent two weeks and counting arguing over chicken feed small amounts in a budget…whilst ignoring the infinity bigger “black hole” caused by brexit.
He won’t like how the EU points out his authoritarianism is incompatible with their utopian ideals.
Let Scotland get it’s independence, rejoin the EU, and let migration decide who the folk prefer.
Personally, I’ll be breaking out the andy stewart vinyl
The closer EU ties I want are to be back in the fucking EU.
This is welcome news.
However, I will say, the fact excruciatingly painful glacial acceptance of the damage Brexit is doing to the U.K., the need for closer commercial ties with the EU and the necessary shift in policy and discourse by Starmer and the Labour government is extremely embarrassing to witness. I don’t think it’s doing them many favours either…..
I’ll bet that by the next election Starmer and Reeves will have done more economic damage than Brexit.
If we can move past talking about Brexit benefits – there aren’t any – and towards reversing at least some of our national self harm, then that is positive.
Maybe Starmer is not a lost cause after all.
That’s good very good if the Prime Minister and the government are finally admitting that Brexit was a disaster.
The Brexit denial is finally dwindling. The next election will be all about Farage versus returning to the single market and the EU customs union.
Even if Farage wins, he’ll likely tank the economy further simply because of who he is and the ideology he represents. Nobody will want to do business with him or take him seriously. It would be similar to the end of Boris’s tenure, when every time he opened his mouth it had a negative effect on the markets.
So either way, the UK will end up learning the hard way (again), or it will finally hold its hand up and admit the Brexit was most historic political error made in peacetime by any modern nation.and it needs fixed for the sake of prosperity.
The most immediate thing he could do is negotiate a deal with the EU on defence procurement. Canada seems to have managed.
https://www.politico.eu/article/canada-clinches-deal-to-join-europes-e150b-defense-scheme/
Scrapping the £ isn’t going to happen full stop, that’s just a convenient red herring.
Poland joined the EU 21 years ago and they still use the Zloty. They won’t be giving it up anytime soon either.
Well…didn’t fucking work giving up ‘the fish’ and we got nothing in return.