General election: Nigel Farage says aim should be ‘zero’ net migration

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jun/04/general-election-nigel-farage-conservatives-labour-rishi-sunak-keir-starmer-uk-politics-latest

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    1. He’ll say anything that sounds good for popularity, but when there’s a whiff of actual work this grifter will rub his hands, claim it’s job done and then disappear to either the States or one of his handlers for the next stirring-the-pot assignment before even suggesting *how* something should be done.

      He could claim the aim should be to give the NHS a huge increase in funding, but he’ll back up and say it’s not his job the moment people look to him. He’s happy to criticise but never provide alternatives. Happy to say what should happen but never how like with this.

      A false prophet, a faux man of the people, a wolf in wolf clothing pretending to be sheep to incredibly gullible sheep.

    2. ShowKey6848 on

      Here’s the thing – when populism meets reality,  it never ends well and the prime example is Brexit ; you think people would learn.

    3. On a positive note, he’s just f*ucked the Tories, but it’s what’s next after the GE?

    4. TheLimeyLemmon on

      Easy to say from a place of no power.

      This government has actually brought in ideas and systems Farage was touting back in the UKIP days and they’re not working.

    5. Aggressive_State9921 on

      >net

      I like the bit for this to work, he would have to deport someone everytime someone entered the country.

      One minute you’re on the way to work, next minute a black van bundles you in the back and puts you on a plane to Rwanda

    6. EditorRedditer on

      My big fear is that he’ll win Clacton, then cross the floor to the Conservatives, and do to the Cons what Trump has done to the Republicans.

      Being a Conservative is mainly just about hanging on to power, by any means necessary…

    7. aFoxyFoxtrot on

      I guess they could encourage more skilled citizens to leave the country? That would bring it to net zero. God knows they care more about the stats than making the country better (/not falling apart).
      PS. Vote tory if you’re a wankstain

    8. Jakes_Snake_ on

      They can achieve zero net migration by asking another 700k British to leave to be replaced by 700k foreigners.

      So when is the conversation going to be honest and about the levels of foreign immigration?

    9. I think a lot of people would like towns and cities to feel less crowded but there will need to be big sacrifices for net zero immigration to be plausible and politicians need to be honest about that. Mass immigration is a sticking plaster, but there is a gaping wound underneath.

    10. Icy_Collar_1072 on

      Why is he never pressed on how his immigration plan would work?   

      How is “net zero” immigration achieved? How are you building the workforce to cope with it whilst having an ageing population? How will it affect vital industries with labour shortages? Will there be exemptions for the thousands of international students who prop up universities? Where are you getting the workers in the UK to cover for the drop in numbers?   

       There’s probably dozens more questions to the feasibility of his plan but the glaring omission he always fails to say is that it would cost billions to skill up and build up a workforce in the UK which would need to be initially heavily subsidised to encourage people. It would come with a heavy economic price. 

    11. LogicKennedy on

      Question.

      Reform won 2 local council seats.

      The Greens won 181.

      Why is Farage being invited to debates and not a Green Party representative?

    12. After hearing a couple of his live interviews, I only see benefits for the tories, as it’s just the same old shit.

      Instead of hearing discussion around the tories triple lock plus, national service, and their new trans law. We get to see this grifters ugly mug.

    13. Civil_opinion24 on

      I bet the people of Clacton are excited to have an MP who by his own admission will do fuck all for them about local issues.

    14. Agreeable_Falcon1044 on

      Impossible. Unless the plan is to put all the OAPs in a boat and send them into the Atlantic, society would collapse with our current birth rates and ageing population…

    15. Careful-Swimmer-2658 on

      Net zero means around 600,000 visas a year. That isn’t a trivial number of people (it’s about the same as the entire city of Glasgow). I loathe Farage with a passion but he’s right when he says we can’t keep increasing the population forever. We need to think of a different solution to the labour shortage. My own very average town has massively increased in size over the last ten years and the consumption of the surrounding countryside shows no sign of slowing down. It’s not as if they’re building homes for first time buyers or recent immigrants either. Prices start at around £450,000.

    16. Competitive_News199 on

      Sure Nige, I’ll help you out and leav….oh wait I cant because finding work in EU feels impossible even when you can speak the language. Short sighted idiot.

    17. Farage has already stated on the BBC that Labour have won and it’s an election for who is the opposition, which means nothing he says will matter in the slightest as he recognises none of it will ever be policy. He’s literally playing peak populism now.

    18. LovelyNostril on

      But who will undercut my working conditions if we don’t import more scabs from third world countries?

    19. HorseFacedDipShit on

      People have to know this isn’t remotely achievable. I’ll never understand why anyone would hear something like this and think it’s possible.

    20. integratedanima on

      He is a narcissist. That really became super clear to me yesterday when he announced his return. He just *needs* the attention. If it isn’t about him, he loses interest. The actual job of governing would bore him to tears. I think that’s why he wants to be in the opposition. That way he can just keep criticising without ever having to actually do any of the hard work. If he actually ever got to be PM he’d resign within 2 years at the most and pawn it off to someone else, claiming the work is done…until he comes back to campaign for them again.

    21. He’s a grifter. Likely planted so the media can focus on him because they cant focus on the train wreck of the Tories.

    22. ExcellentHunter on

      Liar as usual, dude is just a populist who will do anything to get a bit of power…

    23. burtbacharachnipple on

      What’s his position on

      – political representatives attendance records

      – accepting money from foreign adversaries

      – maintaining equality in the rule of law

      – politicians sticking to statements the make for atleast 1 week

      – politicians and political parties being transparent about the source of funds

      – the funding requirements to protect the Clacton cost line and local infrastructure from rising tides and storm defences

      – women’s right to reproductive control

      – why is positive discrimination good

      Follow up questions :

      – given NF success in getting the UK to vote in leaving the EU, what guarantee can he give that if he wins a seat for Clacton, he won’t then immediately leave to work for a government in another continent

    24. They won’t get it down below 500k legal migration, the boats will always come so that’s around 50k per year too. In my opinion the only long term visas should be for spouses of British citizens with historic links to the UK, probably not a popular opinion. Train your own people and get the ypung working for a year in care homes or fruit picking, could be a paid national service.

    25. OinkyDoinky13 on

      The hate peddler supports Trump; a known misogynist, racist and felon. He and Trump do not deserve anyone’s time or energy.

    26. king_athelstan on

      A completely sensible policy with broad public support, but as usual the lefties on reddit are having a meltdown.