Went to Amble in the 3Arena last night and honestly couldn’t enjoy it because the place was basically a pub. Non-stop yapping, full-on group chats, roaring laughing and it wasn’t just one area. We moved around, even went up near the front… same story everywhere.
Like… why pay €60–€80 for tickets just to talk through the whole gig? Stay in the pub if that’s what you want to do??
Completely ruined it for me and my partner. Same thing happened at Christy Moore in Iveagh Gardens last year, so I’m starting to wonder, are people actually getting more ignorant, or is something else going on?
Saw Amble in the Olympia last year and you could hear a pin drop. Gorgeous gig. Now I’m genuinely put off 3Arena shows. Anyone else noticing this?
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For me the David gray gig took the biscuit. Ever since covid people are gone feral
That’s pretty awful, it makes not sense going there if you don’t want to listen. If you just want it as background music stay home or in the pub and listen to it on a speaker. No need to ruin it for everyone else.
It’s wild the full blown conversations people do have during gigs. It’s usually got nothing to do with the gig either.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
> are people actually getting more ignorant
Yes, yes they are. And the ubiquity of phones and social media means a lot of people are going to gigs just to tell others that they are/were there, and to show off. They might not have any interest in the act performing, probably couldn’t name you more than a couple of songs if asked. And it’s not just younger people and younger acts, could be anywhere and everywhere.
Same as the people who pay 10-20 euro to go to the cinema, then act like they’re at home with a group of friends watching the telly. Why bother when all you want to do is yap and use your phone?! Just stay home and spare the rest of us who do care about what we’re watching or listening to. GRRRRR…..
I suspect it’s the gigs you are going too. A good proportion of the crowd for an Amble or CM gig know a few songs from the radio so use the more unknown songs as an opportunity to chat/go to the bar.
This is unfortunately the norm at any popular gig nowadays, basically everything in the 3Arena. There’s still magic to be found at the really small gigs, but it only takes a small number of cunts to turn up and ruin the vibe.
I remember being at a gig in Workmans Club, and everyone was silent, the band were playing a slow, emotional number, it was like 30 minutes into the show, when 4 cunts in their office attire pushed their way up to the stage (where I was) and yapped amongst each other, completely oblivious to the vibe they were killing. One lad kept saying things like “these lot are really good! How’d you hear of them?? Great suggestion! Class that we could get tickets at the door. Have you seen them before?” etc etc etc until about 15 minutes later they copped the daggers they were getting from everyone around them.
Not sure you can blame the venue. I have been to gigs there where the crowd has been expectedly quiet during the artists performance. I have a sense it may be related to the clientile of the artist more than the venue
Saw Kraftwerk in the Olympia in 2004. This was when they were just returning to touring, so seeing them live was a major event.
A guy in front of us stood with his back to the stage for the entire gig talking to two people who clearly had no interest in the conversation. He was wearing sunglasses, and was quite animated and passionate about whatever he was rambling about. They stood looking at the stage, not replying to him except for an odd nod in his direction, and he just talked and talked and talked. He didn’t turn around once to see the show.
Coem to Germany, we are to stingy to waste money with talking during a concert😂
Had the exact same behind me at the last dinner party. Full on yapping even during quieter parts of songs where everyone nearby could hear them. The ignorance is insane. Why pay that much money to not pay attention to the music.
Ah sure people buy cinema tickets to spend the whole movie having a wee chat! People have no manners or awareness of others.
It’s the type of crowd the band attracts…I was at Wolf Alice the night before in 3arena and there was no talking like this. Everyone’s attention was glued to the stage.
Really gotten bad in the last few years, saw Damien Dempsey at Iveagh Gardens last summer and it was happening right up to the front, people not even facing the stage just roaring and chatting with their mates. Really ruins the gigs and it’s putting me off going to more with the price im paying for it.
I think there’s a few factors cos Iv seen it change so much over the years too and it’s definitely changed my own approach to which gigs I go to.
1. Cocaine, cocaine, cocaaaaaaine – literally everyone is on it and they just never shut the fuck up
2. Venue specific, some venues definitely attract more of a piss up group than a genuine fan, bigger venues happily sell as much drink as they can cos it makes them money.
3. Artist/ band specific, unfortunately popular mainstream acts will attract crowds of shite music fans who aren’t really fans at all they just know 2 songs. Iv really focused on heavier music these days for gigs and the quieter ones have been ruined so many times.
4. This obsession that Irish people have with going to events as a night out – for a country where we’re all meant to be dirt broke everyone I know in work would pay €80 for the opening of a letter if there was a bar at it. Back in the day people didn’t seem to go to as many gigs/ matches unless they actually cared about it.
Jesus christ that’s infuriating
The vast majority of people there are there to hear two or three of their big/known songs. This is what you get at major mainstream acts
It’s the height of ignorance. It really is particularly during quiet songs.
Amble are great but they’re the trendy gig to be at for a lot of people. A good portion of attendees want to hear 1 or 2 songs they know, get the Instagram story and carry on with their night. I’d imagine at the Kingfishr gig later in the week it will be the same, those people will arse around for 90% of the gig and go fully into it when they play Killeagh.
With time, bands shake off that crowd as they tend to move onto the next thing
I swear to god, nearly came to blows at Hozier in the Point. People talking their way through songs like Shrike and Cherry Wine, like why are you even here? Do you even like Hozier? Or know any songs apart from Take Me To Church?
Full blown conversation with a group of girls at a Dermot Kennedy gig last year. It wasn’t even a big venue, like 1500 max. Everyone was shushing them and it didn’t work. So bloody rude.
Went to The Mary Wallopers in Killarney last year. The band had to tell the crowd to stop talking a few times it was that bad. The ignorance in the crowd ruined it.
Just go to a pub if you want to chat.
Many people are going to these gigs because it’s the hottest ticket in town and they can put it on their socials, not because they’re into the music. Unfortunately you’re more likely to get this with a band like Amble and in a venue like 3Arena – big enough to hold thousands of Fairweather fans for a band who are enjoying 15 mins of fame
I hate arenas
3Arena is awful for that in the standing area. I swear by sitting there for that reason alone
I dont know what it is. Jesse Welles played in the Academy early in the year and people were yapping over him. Whatever about talking at a massive gig but at an intimate venue its plain rude and ignorant.
Then Jesse played again last week in the Olympia and the crowd were amazing. Nobody was chatting that I could hear.
I dunno but it annoys me so much when the crown are yapping. Its the height of main character syndrome and pure ignorance.
Yeah they only come for the two or three popular songs and the piss up after. Lot of Christmas parties going to these things as well who you can assume don’t really give a shite about the music.
It’s actually ruining live music events especially more quaint live music like amble
Went to see Nine Inch Nails earlier in the year and there was so much chatting! Mostly the older crowd too. I was standing and like you moved around to try to get away but I couldn’t.
Had the same problem at The Cure at the same venue and the same time of year. I was convinced a lot of people were there on Christmas parties, there’s a lot of corporate tickets that go to companies who sponsor the venue or have contracts with them
I think Christmas gigs are the worst for it. There’s definitely a thing now of people using gigs for their Christmas meet ups and spending the whole time catching up instead of just going for a pint/dinner.
Very frustrating – especially with the price of tickets these days!
I was at Wolf Alice there and these young women were yapping and vaping and bashing into me (which I accepted until they touched me deliberately and I went mad at them, then felt guilty because I’m a man in my 30s and they’re 20 year old girls), but what was interesting is that I could tell they knew and loved the band. They knew what songs were coming up, and one of them said “I’m going to film the whole of the last song!”, their most popular, and so she did… everyone else in the arena dancing around and she’s just filming something that already exists in a hundred different forms on YouTube. I don’t get it.
I’ve seen people say “it’s gone this way”. This has always been the case in my 30 and more years of going to gigs.
It always depends on the artist and the type of crowd who attends (definitely more common on people who are up for the big gig and using it as a night out than an event). Along with this, and this video is a good example, if the artist is quieter (like with acoustic sets), it leads to more opportunities for people to talk. It’s not right but it’s the truth.
It can also depend on the venue; smaller venues tend to have a more dedicated crowd and so demonstrate that bit more respect. Not always though.
Other varying factors too, like if it’s recently popular band or a band/musician who were popular years ago, those tend to attract more day trippers who want a day out and tend to be a bit more drunk too.
This happened to me at Pink’s concert last year, two girls shouting at eachother for a good while. Told them to shut up and nobody else said anything, once they went to get drinks people were saying well done.
This is the problem, nobody stands up to people anymore, everybody is afraid to tell people to shut the fuck up.
It was a bit like that at The Midnight in the 3 Olympia nearer the back. So many people making so much noise that wasn’t singing along. A friend I was with said that people now just go out and look for tickets to whatever even if they’re only half interested just to have something to do. Then they get together and just yap the whole time. It really messed up the vibe. I wish people could be a bit more self aware.
I think it’s that gigs are becoming more of a social event, especially as people withdraw from nightclub culture. It used to be ‘let’s go see Amble because I’m a fan and want to see them play live’, but now it’s ’let’s go for pints and see a bitta music cuz the lads are going and I know a few songs’. It’s why we’re seeing record-breaking ticket sales YoY since Covid for bang-average music, but also why gig etiquette has gone to the dogs.
Also, cocaine
Everyone now thinks they’re in their living room and can act how the fuck they want. Whether it’s at gigs, the cinema, shopping centers anywhere. People have become more entitled.
I remember being at Keane a couple of years ago and two lads were sitting in front of us, talking through the entire gig, only stopping for the two songs they knew, constantly taking pictures of themselves and WhatsApping their mates how good the gig was. Up every ten minutes for more pints. It was insufferable.
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I really just think it depends on the artist and what sort of fans they attract to shows. I’ve been to 10 or so shows this year and fortunately have had no issues. The Lumineers had a good bit of chatting going on but it was in St. Anne’s Park so was more of a festival vibe. But the likes of My Bloody Valentine and Mogwai, the crowds were extremely respectful. Even Oasis, I was upper Cuzack and most people around me were just happy to be there and enjoying the songs.
Edit: seen My Bloody Valentine and Turnstile in the 3Arena and both crowds were great
It’s the coke and ketamine ,went out for catch-up with friends on the weekend recently and every cunt in the place is zapped out of it and talking at 100 miles an hour ,had to que to get in jack’s all night it’s a fucking joke
You’ll get every type of arsehole at an Amble gig