Dec 16, 2025

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Michelle Gutierrez Vo, a registered nurse at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Fremont, speaks during a rally alongside fellow nurses from across California at Kaiser Permanente on Geary Blvd in San Francisco on April 22, 2024, to advocate for patient safety in the face of artificial intelligence. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)

Guests:

April Dembosky, health correspondent, KQED News

Jodi Halpern, professor of bioethics and chancellor’s chair, University of California, Berkeley

Vanessa Coe, secretary–treasurer, National Union of Healthcare Workers

Anna Benassi, therapist, associate professor and executive director of clinics, California Institute of Integral Studies

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