30 Comments

  1. BrilliantPrudent6992 on

    A pound a week, Gwen? What does she take me for, a fool? I’ll be 104 by the time it’s paid off 

  2. Jaded_Strain_3753 on

    This seems like a reasonable outcome? There’s no point trying to force her to pay it quicker if she simply doesn’t have any money. She also got a suspended sentence and unpaid work.

  3. JackStrawWitchita on

    Remember, the real punishment will be having a criminal record for fraud follow her around for life. She will be turned down for jobs, she’ll be turned down by landlords, she’ll be turned down for loans, she’ll be turned down for all kinds of things, even volunteer roles, because of this conviction. Paying back the money is nothing compared to the lifelong impact of a criminal record for fraud.

    She’s totally screwed over her life by doing this.

  4. Everyday when I wake up at 6 and go to work I think about people like this. And I’ve found myself thinking about them more and more lately.

  5. evolveandprosper on

    …whereas Michelle Mone won’t have to pay back a penny of the millions she and her husband fraudulently took. Funny old world, isn’t it!

  6. It’s difficult to assess but the fact she’s employed should indicate that she has the means to contribute more – even if we base it on her working part time then she should have the obligation to work longer to pay her debts.

    It shouldn’t be her will we (the state) bend to.

  7. It’s people like this that are turning the ordinary working public against the welfare state and the general idea of taxation. How do you think stealing £16,500 from the taxpayer sits with the minimum wage worker whose taxes helped pay for this and knows how much trouble they’d be in for stealing £16,500? Then of course add to that the fact that this money for meant to be for for her 3 children but they’d been taken into care because she was clearly unfit to look after them.

    Humans have a strong sense of injustice (even other primates like monkeys have it) don’t underestimate its power.

  8. AnakinsAngstFace on

    People are more angry about this than they are about the big companies avoiding corp tax and it’s very telling

  9. This is the true two-tier society we live in.

    Middle earner? You’re held to account.
    Too rich or too poor? You get a free pass.

    Sickening.

  10. I was accused a few years back of being overpaid HB from 10 years previous and the local council even admitted they couldn’t find a record of it just a note saying I owed it and took £25 a week to pay it off.

    I was on disability related UC and it caused me a lot of distress, couldn’t afford heating, food went down to bread and pasta etc.

  11. SnooCauliflowers6739 on

    +£85 fine +120 hours community work.

    If I took a 16500 loan for 22 years and paid it back monthly, but got 5% interest on the money, I’d make £9k (after the £85 fine).

    £9k for 120hrs work seems good to me.

    I took would like to take up this offer.

  12. ruffianrevolution on

    It doesn’t matter. As soon as she said she’s going to pay it back, the government can spend all of it, on a promise. Just like banks and your mortgage.

  13. Lower_Kaleidoscope_3 on

    Didn’t she know, this is the UK, only politicians and the rich can fraudulently take money!!!

  14. These bloody white people, already being here and claiming benefits they’re not entitled to.

  15. Assuming she just put the £16500 in to a reasonable ~4ish % fixed saver for the 22 years she’d be able to pay it back with just the interest. Nice.

  16. MostlyBoatsandBikes on

    Don’t buy into this bullshit narrative.

    Look at the wealthy who are getting away with millions and they’re never brought to justice and held to account.

  17. Seriously couldn’t give a fuck about this. The ruling class are getting away with so much worse in this country.

  18. Defiant-Sand9498 on

    I know someone who got done for £96k, got sent to jail on a Friday, the judge brought her back on the Monday because he was worried about it effecting the kids and released her, she has to repay it at a bullshit rate, she will be dead and it still won’t be paid off, and she’s still spiting kids out on her 9th or 10th kid, 5 or 6 baby daddys. Got to love the justice system

  19. painteroftheword on

    When I briefly worked for the DWP spoke with a lady who’d had a £20k overpayment because of an entitlement screw-up by the benefits office. The benefits system is so complicated these errors happen quite often.

    She was paying it back at something like £5 a week 😂

  20. My kneejerk reaction to benefit fraud is “hang ’em and flog ’em” but this time round I decided to read the story.

    Questions:

    1. if someone is incapable of looking after their own kids and has them taken into care, how can we expect them to be capable of doing the admin to inform relevant bodies of a change to their circumstances?
    2. if someone is incapable of looking after their own kids and has them taken into care, shouldn’t that agency be issuing markers out to other state bodies to do things like automatically cancel related benefits?

    Given that the majority of “benefit fraud” comes about from changes in personal circumstances, I’m increasingly believing that we could reduce this with better administrative processes. How much time and money at the DWP and in the courts has this wasted?

  21. JackStrawWitchita on

    For all the ‘lock her in prison!’ types reading this: remember it costs taxpayers (you and I) £52,000 to keep one person locked in prison for just one year.