Yes because the BMA asked the government to restrict medical placements and now we have a shortage and need to import them to meet our needs.
sober_disposition on
There’s doesn’t seem to be much in the article by way of explanation, although I expect that this is essentially down to a deliberate choice in service of cost cutting. It’s clear that this is deeply harmful to both the quality of healthcare and the ability to train healthcare professionals domestically, so this is also short sighted and dangerous.
I suspect our lax immigration system that prioritises sourcing cheap and ununionised labour from overseas, and the fact that many people around the world aspire to live and work in the UK particularly also contribute, but it’s clear that this is the consequence of deliberate choice, so this can be changed now that the consequences have been recognised and are starting to bite.
PARFT on
Last hospital I went into almost everyone was foreign patients, clerical and medical.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
As if it isn’t by design.
Make it incredibly difficult for people to have children, and then equally difficult for kids to pursue an education to the point they qualify as a doctor, and then not even fund those roles properly.
In that case, yeah, I’d imagine we’re relying on foreign doctors.
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Technical-Mention510 on
Because they don’t just want to cut corners cheaply and like to invest in their own citizens. This is why Spain has so many little independent shops etc and we have Tesco’s lol.
Asleep-Ad1182 on
It’s cheaper to get rubbish doctors from Nigeria than to train your own.
swolleninthecolon on
Why are telegraph links allowed? These people are not writing in britains best interest, and support dismantling the nhs for the benefit of the private insurers
deyterkourjerbs on
We had unpredicted population growth as a result of many different things. If you want more homegrown doctors in 2030, you probably need to know about it by 2018-2020 to encourage your universities to open up more places and to provide funding for these people to be trained in a hospital environment. We didn’t.
We just have governments who don’t plan because of the “free market”. I voted for this a couple of times. Sorry, I guess.
Astriania on
Yes because
– we don’t fund public sector jobs properly, resulting in qualified people leaving for better paid countries – also a problem for police and teachers among others
– we don’t have joined up thinking with the training pipeline to produce enough domestic doctors
– we’ve had governments with a laissez faire attitude to immigration for at least 25 years who are happy to resolve point 1 by getting immigrants in to do work on the cheap
Sudden-Conclusion931 on
We aren’t ‘relying’ on them. We are very deliberately choosing them over doctors (and nurses) educated and trained in this country, many thousands of whom are now unemployed because they cannot get jobs. It’s a government decision to outsource healthcare, to reduce labour costs, reduce professional prestige, and crush bargaining power. Pure and simple.
TheGoober87 on
We don’t rely on them. We have medically qualified people who can’t get a job, instead they’d rather hire cheap from elsewhere.
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Yes because the BMA asked the government to restrict medical placements and now we have a shortage and need to import them to meet our needs.
There’s doesn’t seem to be much in the article by way of explanation, although I expect that this is essentially down to a deliberate choice in service of cost cutting. It’s clear that this is deeply harmful to both the quality of healthcare and the ability to train healthcare professionals domestically, so this is also short sighted and dangerous.
I suspect our lax immigration system that prioritises sourcing cheap and ununionised labour from overseas, and the fact that many people around the world aspire to live and work in the UK particularly also contribute, but it’s clear that this is the consequence of deliberate choice, so this can be changed now that the consequences have been recognised and are starting to bite.
Last hospital I went into almost everyone was foreign patients, clerical and medical.
As if it isn’t by design.
Make it incredibly difficult for people to have children, and then equally difficult for kids to pursue an education to the point they qualify as a doctor, and then not even fund those roles properly.
In that case, yeah, I’d imagine we’re relying on foreign doctors.
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Because they don’t just want to cut corners cheaply and like to invest in their own citizens. This is why Spain has so many little independent shops etc and we have Tesco’s lol.
It’s cheaper to get rubbish doctors from Nigeria than to train your own.
Why are telegraph links allowed? These people are not writing in britains best interest, and support dismantling the nhs for the benefit of the private insurers
We had unpredicted population growth as a result of many different things. If you want more homegrown doctors in 2030, you probably need to know about it by 2018-2020 to encourage your universities to open up more places and to provide funding for these people to be trained in a hospital environment. We didn’t.
We just have governments who don’t plan because of the “free market”. I voted for this a couple of times. Sorry, I guess.
Yes because
– we don’t fund public sector jobs properly, resulting in qualified people leaving for better paid countries – also a problem for police and teachers among others
– we don’t have joined up thinking with the training pipeline to produce enough domestic doctors
– we’ve had governments with a laissez faire attitude to immigration for at least 25 years who are happy to resolve point 1 by getting immigrants in to do work on the cheap
We aren’t ‘relying’ on them. We are very deliberately choosing them over doctors (and nurses) educated and trained in this country, many thousands of whom are now unemployed because they cannot get jobs. It’s a government decision to outsource healthcare, to reduce labour costs, reduce professional prestige, and crush bargaining power. Pure and simple.
We don’t rely on them. We have medically qualified people who can’t get a job, instead they’d rather hire cheap from elsewhere.
The title is borderline clickbait.