This reeks of a backstabbing in progress. I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
fahimching on
Zelenskyy’s message is pretty clear, if Russia tries to block this U.S.-led peace deal, Trump would have to arm us heavily, while imposing all possible sanctions against them. The West’s action would be a major ramp-up in support.
anilbhardwaj26 on
Yeah, this situation is tense. Hopefully, there’s a peaceful resolution, but it’s hard to predict with all the moving parts.
Upstairs-Mall-3695 on
Zelensky reveals if Russia says no to the revised US-backed plan, expect escalated Western response – stricter sanctions and boosted defense tech for Ukraine. Peace or consequences
SirleeOldman on
Ukraine doesn’t need Nato if they get iron clad guarantees from the US and Europe that are signed in to law by congress and the various parliaments. Considering the position Zelensky was in when Trump ambushed him in front of cameras this has been a masterful display of diplomacy. When Putin rejects peace it will be very difficult for Trump to frame it as Ukraine’s fault. He will though.
Famoustractordriver on
This reeks of Ribbentrop-Molotov 2 Electric Boogaloo to me.
I would not trust either Trump or Putin with a bag of dogshit.
keystoneux on
>President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that if Russia’s war against Ukraine continues, the United States and Europe will keep providing assistance to Kyiv.
Yea, until sweet potato hitler has a brain fart for the 20th time that day and flips back to russia.
Kind-Tangelo5754 on
It seems more like a hypothetical scenario than a definitive plan. The West aims to support Ukraine without triggering a direct escalation.
postusa2 on
Right. But Trump’s simultaneously giving a preview of how this will work. Putin says hes advancing in Donbas, and nevermind the atrocity of it, but Trump takes it as true.
If obliged to defend Ukraine by guarantees in a peace deal… the Trump administration is going to side with Putins account every time. Kinzhal lands in a market killing 30 people….? Putin smiles and says it was the Ukrainian nazis at fault. And what will Trump do? Go to war or go along with Putin?
pikepoles on
They’re not going to do shit
steve_ample on
Banking on Putin’s recalcitrance over Trump’s emotionalist incompetence to ensure Ukraine getting the support they need.
Alexander_Ruthol on
Yeeeaaaahh…. Trump is currently not giving anything to Ukraine, but as long as Europe is willing to keep paying I’m guessing Trump is OK with selling.
But it can change at the drop of a red MAGA hat. No one knows what Trump will think or do in five minutes, much less tomorrow.
tripping_yarns on
Trump just wants attention and Putin is his enabler. Russia will present a counter proposal that is obviously untenable to Ukraine; all of Donbas, Crimea and some more in the South, no peacekeeping force, permanent exclusion from NATO and the EEC.
Trump will be told it’s a good deal, when Zelenskyy fails to agree Trump will grump, sanctions lifted on Russia and no more weapons for Ukraine.
Europe will finally step up and this will anger Trump, Putin will tell him to increase tariffs on Europe and make a move on Greenland ‘for security’.
Political chaos all round, exactly what Putin wants. Division and infighting in the West.
WorryNew3661 on
Zelensky is damn good at this
Prior-Champion65 on
You guys realize the US wants this war right? We love watching Russia bash thier head against their former ally, wearing themselves down. We will drag it out as long as possible.
fortyyearsthendeath on
Fucking clueless Trivago guy with the thumbs up again. Dickhead
StuckInMotionInc on
“After the meeting they revealed Trump and Zelensky could not agree on the future of Donbas”
Because Donnie still doesn’t understand, Zelensky doesn’t have the power to give away land.
wisockamonster on
Not news.
Foreign-Security-364 on
Zelenski 100% is too smart to trust putins pets
nejithegenius on
Europes got this. I think the states should pull out.
Crispy1961 on
So basically if Russia refuses peace, the war will continue. I mean, thats perfectly reasonable, but I expected some little bit more specific.
Embarrassed-Base-143 on
Russia pretty sure knew this was gonna happen 9/10
giganticturnip on
Europe needs to give Putin one chance to agree to peace and if not, go in and enforce Ukraine’s 2013 borders. The BBC John Simpson article today highlighted that EU economies are more than 10 times larger than Russia’s and European countries have more than three times Russia’s population.
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This reeks of a backstabbing in progress. I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
Zelenskyy’s message is pretty clear, if Russia tries to block this U.S.-led peace deal, Trump would have to arm us heavily, while imposing all possible sanctions against them. The West’s action would be a major ramp-up in support.
Yeah, this situation is tense. Hopefully, there’s a peaceful resolution, but it’s hard to predict with all the moving parts.
Zelensky reveals if Russia says no to the revised US-backed plan, expect escalated Western response – stricter sanctions and boosted defense tech for Ukraine. Peace or consequences
Ukraine doesn’t need Nato if they get iron clad guarantees from the US and Europe that are signed in to law by congress and the various parliaments. Considering the position Zelensky was in when Trump ambushed him in front of cameras this has been a masterful display of diplomacy. When Putin rejects peace it will be very difficult for Trump to frame it as Ukraine’s fault. He will though.
This reeks of Ribbentrop-Molotov 2 Electric Boogaloo to me.
I would not trust either Trump or Putin with a bag of dogshit.
>President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that if Russia’s war against Ukraine continues, the United States and Europe will keep providing assistance to Kyiv.
Yea, until sweet potato hitler has a brain fart for the 20th time that day and flips back to russia.
It seems more like a hypothetical scenario than a definitive plan. The West aims to support Ukraine without triggering a direct escalation.
Right. But Trump’s simultaneously giving a preview of how this will work. Putin says hes advancing in Donbas, and nevermind the atrocity of it, but Trump takes it as true.
If obliged to defend Ukraine by guarantees in a peace deal… the Trump administration is going to side with Putins account every time. Kinzhal lands in a market killing 30 people….? Putin smiles and says it was the Ukrainian nazis at fault. And what will Trump do? Go to war or go along with Putin?
They’re not going to do shit
Banking on Putin’s recalcitrance over Trump’s emotionalist incompetence to ensure Ukraine getting the support they need.
Yeeeaaaahh…. Trump is currently not giving anything to Ukraine, but as long as Europe is willing to keep paying I’m guessing Trump is OK with selling.
But it can change at the drop of a red MAGA hat. No one knows what Trump will think or do in five minutes, much less tomorrow.
Trump just wants attention and Putin is his enabler. Russia will present a counter proposal that is obviously untenable to Ukraine; all of Donbas, Crimea and some more in the South, no peacekeeping force, permanent exclusion from NATO and the EEC.
Trump will be told it’s a good deal, when Zelenskyy fails to agree Trump will grump, sanctions lifted on Russia and no more weapons for Ukraine.
Europe will finally step up and this will anger Trump, Putin will tell him to increase tariffs on Europe and make a move on Greenland ‘for security’.
Political chaos all round, exactly what Putin wants. Division and infighting in the West.
Zelensky is damn good at this
You guys realize the US wants this war right? We love watching Russia bash thier head against their former ally, wearing themselves down. We will drag it out as long as possible.
Fucking clueless Trivago guy with the thumbs up again. Dickhead
“After the meeting they revealed Trump and Zelensky could not agree on the future of Donbas”
Because Donnie still doesn’t understand, Zelensky doesn’t have the power to give away land.
Not news.
Zelenski 100% is too smart to trust putins pets
Europes got this. I think the states should pull out.
So basically if Russia refuses peace, the war will continue. I mean, thats perfectly reasonable, but I expected some little bit more specific.
Russia pretty sure knew this was gonna happen 9/10
Europe needs to give Putin one chance to agree to peace and if not, go in and enforce Ukraine’s 2013 borders. The BBC John Simpson article today highlighted that EU economies are more than 10 times larger than Russia’s and European countries have more than three times Russia’s population.