Only CPC statement so far seems to be a tweet from Lantsman, supporting Trump’s actions.
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The most important part of the article for those who do not understand how Trump is essentially declaring war on the international order and implicitly, on Canada’s sovereignty as well:
“If the United States normalizes unilateral force, it signals to authoritarian leaders that aggression is once again an acceptable instrument of statecraft. This erodes the UN Charter’s foundational principle that disputes must be resolved peacefully and that force is a last resort. The United States helped build the post‑war legal order. It cannot selectively abandon it without consequence.”
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Commented in another similar post – Canada needs to negotiate and manage Trump with the realization he has no guardrails. Militarily, there is absolutely nothing Canada can do. Even a full decade of full out military expansion would not even get us close to slowing down US military action. Economically, we can diversify, but again, a decade might get us from 75% to 50%.
We need to be strategically important to the US and also ensure the cost of the US making that importance a “permanent” situation needs to be higher than the benefit.
Welcome to the new world order.
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People seem to forget, Canada is so massive, it is impossible to invade and hold a military occupation or a successful operations.
Something Canadians forget.
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sixtyfivewat on
Trump was just on Fox News’ Fox and Friends saying that Mexico and their President Shenbaum could be next because many drugs “come from the southern border, but also some come from Canada in case you didn’t know”.
DJ_JOWZY on
It was illegal when Russia attacked Ukraine. It’s illegal when America attacks Venezuela.
Don’t expect to see any ‘I Stand With Venezuelans’ on our buses or any other Canadian chyrons. We make excuses for anything America does.
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I’m not sure I follow the argument on the ‘rules based international order’
I don’t think this ‘signals’ the dictators of the world that they can do what they want, they all did it anyways.
Iran Venezuela China and North Korea already flouted the rules based international order by trading in sanctioned oil, Russia already invaded Georgia and crimea long before trump, Iran pursued an illegal nuclear weapons program for years and funded terrorism across the Arab world, The old Syrian regime used chemical weapons on their own people.
Venezuela was already flouting however many international sanctions which countries were happy to support but did next to nothing when they were skirted – but now cry fowl when someone enforces them.
I think for many countries, what was keeping them from invading their neighbours ‘some of the time’ was the threat of military force – primarily from the US. Just before it was done with a thin veneer of international law and ‘rules based international order.
I’m not saying I agree with the US actions here – what I am saying is claiming that this subverts ‘rules based international order’ is a little silly. It didn’t exist for these countries in the first place – they only recognized force.
BornAgainCyclist on
It won’t happen, and Id rather not, but Canada needs nukes. This behaviour, and the outcomes of Libya vs North Korea seem to point to towards it being beneficial.
woundsofwind on
Surely nobody should be surprised right. The breakdown of international order didn’t start here. It was already clear where we were headed since the US doubled down their support of Israel: the complete breakdown of international law and order.
incogne_eto on
Canadians should always keep in mind that one of the first things that Trump did after winning was starting to accuse Canada of allowing fentanyl trafficking across its border.
The US is a snake that is eager to strike and take everything it can. It attacks Venezuela militarily, while it fights an economic war against us.
This is consistent with Canada’s official stance that Maduro was not the legitimate President or government of Venezuela, and they never recognized his keeping power after last year’s election.
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Here’s a lesson for Canada: Pollievre is wholly unelectable and unfit for a position in government given he is aparently supportive of this flagrant breech of international law.
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According to CBC News, Trump has stated on Fox News that he plans on being heavily involved in the managing of what happens next in Venezuela. Or something to that effect. These are the words of an imperialist out to conquer other nations with absolutely *no* regard for concepts of national sovereignty, international law or democracy. He quite means to take over that country and manage it himself. It’s absolutely horrendous.
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No statement from Carney yet.
Perhaps he’s also been kidnapped?
Only CPC statement so far seems to be a tweet from Lantsman, supporting Trump’s actions.
The most important part of the article for those who do not understand how Trump is essentially declaring war on the international order and implicitly, on Canada’s sovereignty as well:
“If the United States normalizes unilateral force, it signals to authoritarian leaders that aggression is once again an acceptable instrument of statecraft. This erodes the UN Charter’s foundational principle that disputes must be resolved peacefully and that force is a last resort. The United States helped build the post‑war legal order. It cannot selectively abandon it without consequence.”
Commented in another similar post – Canada needs to negotiate and manage Trump with the realization he has no guardrails. Militarily, there is absolutely nothing Canada can do. Even a full decade of full out military expansion would not even get us close to slowing down US military action. Economically, we can diversify, but again, a decade might get us from 75% to 50%.
We need to be strategically important to the US and also ensure the cost of the US making that importance a “permanent” situation needs to be higher than the benefit.
Welcome to the new world order.
People seem to forget, Canada is so massive, it is impossible to invade and hold a military occupation or a successful operations.
Something Canadians forget.
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Trump was just on Fox News’ Fox and Friends saying that Mexico and their President Shenbaum could be next because many drugs “come from the southern border, but also some come from Canada in case you didn’t know”.
It was illegal when Russia attacked Ukraine. It’s illegal when America attacks Venezuela.
Don’t expect to see any ‘I Stand With Venezuelans’ on our buses or any other Canadian chyrons. We make excuses for anything America does.
I’m not sure I follow the argument on the ‘rules based international order’
I don’t think this ‘signals’ the dictators of the world that they can do what they want, they all did it anyways.
Iran Venezuela China and North Korea already flouted the rules based international order by trading in sanctioned oil, Russia already invaded Georgia and crimea long before trump, Iran pursued an illegal nuclear weapons program for years and funded terrorism across the Arab world, The old Syrian regime used chemical weapons on their own people.
Venezuela was already flouting however many international sanctions which countries were happy to support but did next to nothing when they were skirted – but now cry fowl when someone enforces them.
I think for many countries, what was keeping them from invading their neighbours ‘some of the time’ was the threat of military force – primarily from the US. Just before it was done with a thin veneer of international law and ‘rules based international order.
I’m not saying I agree with the US actions here – what I am saying is claiming that this subverts ‘rules based international order’ is a little silly. It didn’t exist for these countries in the first place – they only recognized force.
It won’t happen, and Id rather not, but Canada needs nukes. This behaviour, and the outcomes of Libya vs North Korea seem to point to towards it being beneficial.
Surely nobody should be surprised right. The breakdown of international order didn’t start here. It was already clear where we were headed since the US doubled down their support of Israel: the complete breakdown of international law and order.
Canadians should always keep in mind that one of the first things that Trump did after winning was starting to accuse Canada of allowing fentanyl trafficking across its border.
The US is a snake that is eager to strike and take everything it can. It attacks Venezuela militarily, while it fights an economic war against us.
Official Statement by Anita Anand:
[https://x.com/AnitaAnandMP/status/2007477875570581538](https://x.com/AnitaAnandMP/status/2007477875570581538)
This is consistent with Canada’s official stance that Maduro was not the legitimate President or government of Venezuela, and they never recognized his keeping power after last year’s election.
Here’s a lesson for Canada: Pollievre is wholly unelectable and unfit for a position in government given he is aparently supportive of this flagrant breech of international law.
According to CBC News, Trump has stated on Fox News that he plans on being heavily involved in the managing of what happens next in Venezuela. Or something to that effect. These are the words of an imperialist out to conquer other nations with absolutely *no* regard for concepts of national sovereignty, international law or democracy. He quite means to take over that country and manage it himself. It’s absolutely horrendous.