Meanwhile tiktokers in the UK are pointing out Starmer’s low ratings and proposing Downing street as the next possible “extraction point” 🙂
hiraeth555 on
People need to really get to grips with with what’s going on in the world.
It is actually becoming existential, and condemning everything left right and centre will not help the people of the UK.
Better to keep aligning with our European and commonwealth allies in the background than making bold statements that do nothing.
Admirable_Mix2745 on
I’m utterly ashamed of the puppet state the UK has become under the cunty conservatives and now Starmer is beyond pathetic. Have some fucking backbone and stand up for what’s right, not what lines your pockets. BUT, Reform is NOT the answer; they will be worse.
StudySpecial on
yet another pointless ‘*government official* refuses to say *random thing*’ headline – i swear UK media are the most inane group of journalists on the planet, just fishing for comments they can then plaster on a front page
it’s not useful for a government to make announcements about hypothetical actions they may or may not take in a hypothetical situation just based on a random question a journalist asks
Express-Doughnut-562 on
Tapp is the migration minister, it’s not really his thing, so his statement of ‘Diplomacy is delicate’ is totally correct in this circumstance.
The actual people involved in this situation will be much more up to speed on developments and likely privy to stuff Tapp has no idea about.
Doesn’t make headlines of course.
Various_Good_6964 on
Just a media person trying to get a reaction so they can write a headline, they don’t give a toss about what the answer is, only that they get one that they can make some money out of. Scourge to the planet.
Not sure about anyone else, but **I don’t want** politicians that make immediate statements on live news shows without considering and knowing all of the available facts, and how making a statement might effect millions of things in the future based on the political fallout on both sides of the discussion. Politics is delicate and you have to tread the trickiest of lines, people who assume its as easy as blurting out what they think is the right answer wouldn’t last 5 seconds in the game, and by definition would be a shite politician.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
lol at this government pursuing the same “Ming vase” strategy they did at the election.
What is there even to protect at this point?
They’ve literally got a massive majority and everyone hates them anyway so they have so much latitude to do bold things, but for some reason behave like they have everything to lose.
Cats_oftheTundra on
I didn’t realise so many people would be “we should just do nothing”. That doesn’t win you Trump Bucks.
“Your husband beats you? Just stay with him, you depend on him.”
Horror_Extension4355 on
Does make you wonder what is actually driving all this activity. Presidential insanity or access to classified information showing that the western world needs to quickly accelerate its grabbing of natural resources.
Head-Philosopher-721 on
The humiliation of the British political class. Their fault for selling us out to the Americans in the first place.
AnalTinnitus on
I have a feeling that Starmer will have to pick a side very soon.
NARVALhacker69 on
Maduro was an asshole that should be in the Hague, but people that celebrated their kidnapping must realize that it was only the beginning, Mexico, Colombia, Greenland, nobody’s safe
DufaqIsDis on
They’re so weak, they can’t even say the obvious or the decent. Shameful.
Loud_pendel on
The guy knows how many military bases the US has in the UK.
LSL3587 on
A Car Crash. I just hope that he wasn’t fed the line about what to say about Greenland and panicked a bit and went the usual politicians route of trying not to give an answer to anything, because what he said was BAD.
The Venezuela comments were reasonable, given the UK didn’t even know it was happening and are probably still in a WTF state, so – ‘it is for the US to state the legal basis for what they did’ is reasonable for now.
I think the Govt will have to quickly issue some kind of better statement on Greenland rather than this be the latest word on it – even if it is along the lines of ‘Of course the US is not going to invade Greenland – that would be ridiculous’.
Ajax_Trees_Again on
A government utterly obsessed with international law only if it could be used as a detriment to its own citizens.
I’ve never seen anything like it
BeenCalledWorse on
And this is politics for you and why you can’t trust anything to do with it. They had plenty to say when Russia annexed Crimea, yet some how this is different…
BavaroiseIslander on
Good luck cosying up to the man-child and fucking up your ties with the EU even further. That’s sure to work well on the long run!
How well did that work with the Nazis…?
vocalfreesia on
If they’re too scared to speak, they’ll be too scared to act. So they’ve just given the US the go ahead.
Sorry-Programmer9826 on
We need to be *quietly* moving away from the US. Publically condemning a bunch of stuff isn’t going to help, we need to take practical steps while pretending to remain friends with the US.
That means kissing and making up with the rest of Europe, it means ending the need for our nuclear deterrent to be serviced in the US every 6 months (who thought that was a good idea!) And it means disentangling our financial system from the US
La_Tormenta_Perfecta on
Yeah, Shocker
We’re cowards and have been for ages, we sold ourselves to the yanks after WW2 and every politician knows they can’t upset that.
We have a cabinet of Chamberlains who lack any moral fibre and are doing their best not to rock the boat until 2029.
culture_vulture_1961 on
I saw this discussion this morning. The UK government is going to work with its allies – particularly France and Germany and will do diplomacy with the US privately. Much as Sophie Ridge would like a gotcha scoop no minister with a braincell is going to give it to her.
Just_Me_Hey on
Who’s this knob? As a Brit it is wrong for Trump to make overtones towards Greenland.
RecipeSpecialist2745 on
It’s Greenland who are shipping ice into the US by using seals, walruses and polar bears as mules. I am sure Pam Bondi has evidence. They will start shooting drug boats driven by said criminals. They are attacking USA, they killing millions of Mericans. Lmfao.
peakedtooearly on
More of the same spineless, valueless governance from Starmer’s Labour.
rickiegarcon on
Great so let no one talk about Russia, NK and China anymore. All that international law was a farce. Dangerous times
RL203 on
Britain needs another Winston Churchill. Someone who has the guts to stand up to the Orange Maggot.
Awkward_Leopard_6021 on
UK Government knows whatever they say is seen by everyone on the planet so act accordingly.
Odd.
roubler on
The Guardian put out a really good long read last year about Starmer’s history as a human rights lawyer, and there’s a part where an LSE academic sums up the UK’s place in the world as it stands. I think about this quote a lot, and it’s relevant here…
> For Gearty, Labour’s contortions reflect “the weakness that is at the core of Britain’s standing in the world, which voters can never be told about, because British voters continue to believe that this country is a world power”. The trouble, according to Gearty, is that these contortions only make the problem worse. “Britain has little credibility for three reasons,” he said. “One, it is seen as the child of America, with no independent engagement. Two, Britain is an imperial nation that has not yet addressed what imperialism meant; it still largely believes that it granted independence to grateful global south entities. And three, having left Europe, it has no strategic vision of anything.”
Darkone539 on
We’re probably more worried about Canada then Greenland. We know we’re talking about commitments to them because the Canadian government leaked it.
dalehitchy on
“trump says he wants to invade the UK. Will you condemn him?”
uK government: we will not condemn him or give any running commentary “
DoctorKonks on
Veneuzeula given Maduro’s history is one thing, but this is shambolic. He needs a clear plan right fucking now if Trump does and Denmark decides to declare Article 5 under NATO.
Keithmclean1964 on
I think if the US invades, NATO is done. It would show the US can’t be trusted as an ally. Time to reconsider who our real allies are.
GenghisKhant_ on
We have completely spineless politicians, pathetic.
Youbunchoftwats on
Because you don’t conduct this stuff about allies in public. Especially not with an irrational dickhead in the White House.
salamanderwolf on
Ah, Chamberlain’s appeasement strategy. Well that worked out well last time.
hime-633 on
Sorry WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
If we are going to reference the personal history of the illegally kidnapped president can we please also reference the personal history of the president DOING THE KIDNAPPING?
MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Wryly_Wiggle_Widget on
Great, just keep costing up to the wannabe dictator and maybe he’ll tone down forcing chlorinated chicken on us.
People were going on about independence from Eurooe before but it seems we’d rather be another state of America. As a queer woman with an immigrant fiancé I can’t say this lines up with my personal interests at all.
Independent_Plum2166 on
Why is he so obsessed with Greenland anyway? Is it a pride thing? Is it oil? What does he get out of it?
RoryLuukas on
Look… apparently some idiots in this country reeeaaally badly wanted to leave the EU for no apparent good reason… and this is the consequences of that. We literally HAVE to cowtow to America now and right now that means to Trump and all his insane crap because if we cant survive this administration with alliance and trade deals in tact this country is going to seriously feel the squeeze.
magrandan on
My great grandfather was a freedom fighter against the British in India – if only he saw the state of the UK now.
McFuzzyChipmunk on
I think it’s utterly pathetic that we have ended up with such a spineless government who clearly will roll over and suck up to the US as any opportunity despite the fact that public opinion is clearly not on their side.
New-Doctor9300 on
God this is pathetic. If the US attacked our ally, that would be wrong. It isnt difficult to say. Grow a backbone.
The Trump Administration have said, repeatedly, and recently, that they want to take Greenland. That is a violation of a fellow NATO members sovereignty. If it were anyone other than the US, we would inact Article 5, if they launched an invasion.
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The exchange is hilarious:
If Donald Trump moves on Greenland will you condemn it?
“We’re not going to give a running commentary”
“You can’t say Donald Trump shouldn’t invade Greenland?”
“Diplomacy is delicate, which means we’re not here to give a running commentary in the news”
https://x.com/SophyRidgeSky/status/2008087965789204608?t=eTrQF5PdEOcPaargTKw1tQ&s=19
Meanwhile tiktokers in the UK are pointing out Starmer’s low ratings and proposing Downing street as the next possible “extraction point” 🙂
People need to really get to grips with with what’s going on in the world.
It is actually becoming existential, and condemning everything left right and centre will not help the people of the UK.
Better to keep aligning with our European and commonwealth allies in the background than making bold statements that do nothing.
I’m utterly ashamed of the puppet state the UK has become under the cunty conservatives and now Starmer is beyond pathetic. Have some fucking backbone and stand up for what’s right, not what lines your pockets. BUT, Reform is NOT the answer; they will be worse.
yet another pointless ‘*government official* refuses to say *random thing*’ headline – i swear UK media are the most inane group of journalists on the planet, just fishing for comments they can then plaster on a front page
it’s not useful for a government to make announcements about hypothetical actions they may or may not take in a hypothetical situation just based on a random question a journalist asks
Tapp is the migration minister, it’s not really his thing, so his statement of ‘Diplomacy is delicate’ is totally correct in this circumstance.
The actual people involved in this situation will be much more up to speed on developments and likely privy to stuff Tapp has no idea about.
Doesn’t make headlines of course.
Just a media person trying to get a reaction so they can write a headline, they don’t give a toss about what the answer is, only that they get one that they can make some money out of. Scourge to the planet.
Not sure about anyone else, but **I don’t want** politicians that make immediate statements on live news shows without considering and knowing all of the available facts, and how making a statement might effect millions of things in the future based on the political fallout on both sides of the discussion. Politics is delicate and you have to tread the trickiest of lines, people who assume its as easy as blurting out what they think is the right answer wouldn’t last 5 seconds in the game, and by definition would be a shite politician.
lol at this government pursuing the same “Ming vase” strategy they did at the election.
What is there even to protect at this point?
They’ve literally got a massive majority and everyone hates them anyway so they have so much latitude to do bold things, but for some reason behave like they have everything to lose.
I didn’t realise so many people would be “we should just do nothing”. That doesn’t win you Trump Bucks.
“Your husband beats you? Just stay with him, you depend on him.”
Does make you wonder what is actually driving all this activity. Presidential insanity or access to classified information showing that the western world needs to quickly accelerate its grabbing of natural resources.
The humiliation of the British political class. Their fault for selling us out to the Americans in the first place.
I have a feeling that Starmer will have to pick a side very soon.
Maduro was an asshole that should be in the Hague, but people that celebrated their kidnapping must realize that it was only the beginning, Mexico, Colombia, Greenland, nobody’s safe
They’re so weak, they can’t even say the obvious or the decent. Shameful.
The guy knows how many military bases the US has in the UK.
A Car Crash. I just hope that he wasn’t fed the line about what to say about Greenland and panicked a bit and went the usual politicians route of trying not to give an answer to anything, because what he said was BAD.
The Venezuela comments were reasonable, given the UK didn’t even know it was happening and are probably still in a WTF state, so – ‘it is for the US to state the legal basis for what they did’ is reasonable for now.
I think the Govt will have to quickly issue some kind of better statement on Greenland rather than this be the latest word on it – even if it is along the lines of ‘Of course the US is not going to invade Greenland – that would be ridiculous’.
A government utterly obsessed with international law only if it could be used as a detriment to its own citizens.
I’ve never seen anything like it
And this is politics for you and why you can’t trust anything to do with it. They had plenty to say when Russia annexed Crimea, yet some how this is different…
Good luck cosying up to the man-child and fucking up your ties with the EU even further. That’s sure to work well on the long run!
How well did that work with the Nazis…?
If they’re too scared to speak, they’ll be too scared to act. So they’ve just given the US the go ahead.
We need to be *quietly* moving away from the US. Publically condemning a bunch of stuff isn’t going to help, we need to take practical steps while pretending to remain friends with the US.
That means kissing and making up with the rest of Europe, it means ending the need for our nuclear deterrent to be serviced in the US every 6 months (who thought that was a good idea!) And it means disentangling our financial system from the US
Yeah, Shocker
We’re cowards and have been for ages, we sold ourselves to the yanks after WW2 and every politician knows they can’t upset that.
We have a cabinet of Chamberlains who lack any moral fibre and are doing their best not to rock the boat until 2029.
I saw this discussion this morning. The UK government is going to work with its allies – particularly France and Germany and will do diplomacy with the US privately. Much as Sophie Ridge would like a gotcha scoop no minister with a braincell is going to give it to her.
Who’s this knob? As a Brit it is wrong for Trump to make overtones towards Greenland.
It’s Greenland who are shipping ice into the US by using seals, walruses and polar bears as mules. I am sure Pam Bondi has evidence. They will start shooting drug boats driven by said criminals. They are attacking USA, they killing millions of Mericans. Lmfao.
More of the same spineless, valueless governance from Starmer’s Labour.
Great so let no one talk about Russia, NK and China anymore. All that international law was a farce. Dangerous times
Britain needs another Winston Churchill. Someone who has the guts to stand up to the Orange Maggot.
UK Government knows whatever they say is seen by everyone on the planet so act accordingly.
Odd.
The Guardian put out a really good long read last year about Starmer’s history as a human rights lawyer, and there’s a part where an LSE academic sums up the UK’s place in the world as it stands. I think about this quote a lot, and it’s relevant here…
> For Gearty, Labour’s contortions reflect “the weakness that is at the core of Britain’s standing in the world, which voters can never be told about, because British voters continue to believe that this country is a world power”. The trouble, according to Gearty, is that these contortions only make the problem worse. “Britain has little credibility for three reasons,” he said. “One, it is seen as the child of America, with no independent engagement. Two, Britain is an imperial nation that has not yet addressed what imperialism meant; it still largely believes that it granted independence to grateful global south entities. And three, having left Europe, it has no strategic vision of anything.”
We’re probably more worried about Canada then Greenland. We know we’re talking about commitments to them because the Canadian government leaked it.
“trump says he wants to invade the UK. Will you condemn him?”
uK government: we will not condemn him or give any running commentary “
Veneuzeula given Maduro’s history is one thing, but this is shambolic. He needs a clear plan right fucking now if Trump does and Denmark decides to declare Article 5 under NATO.
I think if the US invades, NATO is done. It would show the US can’t be trusted as an ally. Time to reconsider who our real allies are.
We have completely spineless politicians, pathetic.
Because you don’t conduct this stuff about allies in public. Especially not with an irrational dickhead in the White House.
Ah, Chamberlain’s appeasement strategy. Well that worked out well last time.
Sorry WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
If we are going to reference the personal history of the illegally kidnapped president can we please also reference the personal history of the president DOING THE KIDNAPPING?
MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Great, just keep costing up to the wannabe dictator and maybe he’ll tone down forcing chlorinated chicken on us.
People were going on about independence from Eurooe before but it seems we’d rather be another state of America. As a queer woman with an immigrant fiancé I can’t say this lines up with my personal interests at all.
Why is he so obsessed with Greenland anyway? Is it a pride thing? Is it oil? What does he get out of it?
Look… apparently some idiots in this country reeeaaally badly wanted to leave the EU for no apparent good reason… and this is the consequences of that. We literally HAVE to cowtow to America now and right now that means to Trump and all his insane crap because if we cant survive this administration with alliance and trade deals in tact this country is going to seriously feel the squeeze.
My great grandfather was a freedom fighter against the British in India – if only he saw the state of the UK now.
I think it’s utterly pathetic that we have ended up with such a spineless government who clearly will roll over and suck up to the US as any opportunity despite the fact that public opinion is clearly not on their side.
God this is pathetic. If the US attacked our ally, that would be wrong. It isnt difficult to say. Grow a backbone.
The Trump Administration have said, repeatedly, and recently, that they want to take Greenland. That is a violation of a fellow NATO members sovereignty. If it were anyone other than the US, we would inact Article 5, if they launched an invasion.