Democrats are so weak, Rick Scott’s company committed the largest Medicare / Medicaid fraud in the country and the guy is went on to be governor of Florida and is now a sitting Senator. Grow a spine Democrats.
mollser on
What is with these weak comments? Is this sub being brigaded? It’s a shame he’s being hounded out of running again. Based on the comments on multiple posts I understand why. People suck.
bengibbardstoothpain on
I do not need this on a Monday morning, coming back from the holidays.
cutieFitNdNaked on
Walz quitting the race feels like the Dems hitting unsubscribe on Minnesota. Midterms just got a whole lot spicier.
GvMamaBear on
Good for him. I hope he gets more time with his kids.
bsport48 on
Morality is an institutional pillar in the democratic party the way it is not in the republican counterpart. That’s why the Republicans can continue with electoral security for even apparent conduct of the same misbehavior.
LatterMark1611 on
And all of that money Republicans spent attacking him over now goes to waste as they now have to prepare to fight an unknown candidate.
Guessing the Republican think tanks figure this is still an improvement. But they still need to announce a candidate and try to push some lame duck over the finish line
ThePlatinumPancakes on
Really? Tim Walz is going to let the facists bully him into not running for reelection? I am so damn tired of them bossing and pushing the progressives around. Why do they always win? ☹️
Former-Counter-9588 on
Trump and co effectively tainted Walz. It sucks, but the GOP doesn’t realize basically any dem will be able to beat their upcoming candidate — whether it’s the coke addled my pillow guy or some other deplorable recruit.
They just made a Dem victory more likely.
Twiggyhiggle on
I love seeing general Reddits take on things, it always amazes me to see the snap takes. Looking at r/Minnesota this is not just about the childcare thing. First off Walz is a two term governor, no governor has ever won a third term with their 4 year terms. It’s rare for an incumbent to even seek a third term. Second, he has other state issues he is in danger of becoming a scapegoat for in the state. But please Reddit, continue to be outraged.
sealclubberfan on
Probably the smartest move to be honest. There’s already been people charged with this entire situation. I don’t think anything has come out that he himself has been involved, has known about it, or supported it, but this is a huge issue that you really can’t have hanging around. If you want to keep control of the governor office, you really need to run with someone that doesn’t have something like this hanging around them.
That being said, I’m curious what comes out of this. Was he involved, did he know about it and try to hide it? I’m just curious where the investigation winds up, since my understanding is that this has been going on for some time, and there are people out there that have already been arrested related to this.
2000TWLV on
It’s interesting how, when Democrats are in the minority, they ask us to accept that they have no levers to do anything, but when Republicans are in the minority, this never seems to stop them from sabotaging shit and making heads roll.
What’s with the learned helplessness, Dems? How many times do you need to get (us) fucked over before you learn how to fight?
MiloGoesToTheFatFarm on
We let policy be defined by fake YouTube videos. We are truly a nation of idiots.
ManateeGag on
The pillow guy must be jumping for joy.
BF1shY on
Shame, he’s one of the good, strong politicians that we need more of.
Cleveland5teamer on
The North Star is looking quite dim today. 😔
a_rabid_buffalo on
I’m really sad to hear this. I’ve voted for him three times (twice here in MN, once for VP) I’ve thought he’s done a really good job. I’m now worried depending on who runs, we might end up flipping red which is something that I absolutely do not want to happen.
Vox_SFX on
Honestly if they had a whataboutism debate, I think nearly all democratic officials would think twice about how good their chances of winning are…would never see one of them drop out of an election again.
Everyone’s all about “forgiveness” and “people change, the past is the past!” as a way to pretty much excuse any and all actions and words spoken/written previously….but we really need to go back to holding what people do against them WITH prejudice, and start actively punishing the vocal supporters that allow this shit to fester in our communities with real tangible consequences.
If we’re not getting Black Panthers 2.0 admist all these Proud Boy gatherings, then at least pretend to have SOME spine and don’t allow these people peace in their daily lives.
liamemsa on
And now you see why these sorts of faux outrage campaigns are immensely successful.
PenMasterSteve on
Just another deer that runs from hearing a twig snap, this time in human form. No fight whatsoever.
MirthandMystery on
He’s served his tour of duty and wants to protect his family. Younger folks need to step up, serve, and fight. These lame hit jobs are created for clicks and clout, and benefits if it actually pressures Dems in office. Learn to fight back, expose their tactics, diffuse the drama, stay focused on leading responsibly.
Heresy_King on
So this is the playbook now? Abandoning the field and letting MAGA run whatever narrative they want while Dems just throw their hands up and give in without offering any pushback? This party is such a joke if we can’t even have leaders who don’t fold and give up at the first sign of trouble – especially trouble that he wasn’t even part of.
BernieBlack on
Once again teaching these entitled deranged sycophants that yelling loud enough does indeed work
Dsarg_92 on
Sadly understandable. His family’s safety is his top priority right now, especially with the constant threats they’re receiving.
ghostsintherafters on
Huge mistake.
Whatever801 on
Time to vote yes on some controversial shit
JamUpGuy1989 on
Wanting to make sure his family is safe from weirdos/Wanting his mental health to be better = Cowardice
We keep losing this “war” because people on the left are just as insane as the right.
RandyMuscle on
Dems are so weak. Holy fuck.
Krillemall1917 on
Bad move. The story is a nothing burger. The correct response is not to bow out; that validates the narrative that Republicans have manufactured.
purplebrown_updown on
He’s running so not surprising. But the heat he got from fraud claims he already prosecuted is bs. This just shows our messaging is still being drowned out by bs Trump maga shitheads.
atlvernburn on
It’s Nov 6th, 2024 all over.
Harkoncito on
Either he doesn’t have a spine or there are worse allegations coming up.
BensenMum on
Wasn’t this a scandal in 2020 and it wasn’t caused by Somalian immigrants but a PPP loan scandal?
monsieurvampy on
People are acting like he personally signed off on these payments.
People are acting like you can stop fraud with taxpayer dollars from happening.
What Governor, or rather CEO of a company knows every little thing that is happening within their company? None. You hire people to make your business function. Government isn’t that different.
We already have a system of checks in balance for government spending in place. It’s not designed to eliminate fraud, its designed to limit it. The balance is where you discover fraud and then follow through the legal system.
Fraud takes time to investigate. You can’t deny funding to those you may be doing fraud, because its all alleged until proven guilty in court. Innocent until proven guilty anyone?
Lastly if you deny funding base on alleged fraud but haven’t taken that individual or company (or whatever) to court yet, they can take you to court for not providing funding and likely win because its all ALLEGED.
Most people are making this whole thing into something when its really nothing. Government spending is already expensive because of all the reporting. If you want to help people you either have very strict reporting which means you are paying for administrative cost as well or you have less strict reporting and that opens up fraud but you can “help” more people.
The harm is far greater to these daycare than the government. So, I’m confident that funding would be forced to be awarded until fraud could be proven without a doubt; in which case you would have filed a lawsuit already to begin with.
This is not holding politicians accountable, this is making the job unbearable, so why would you want to do it? Why help people when all you get is spit on? This isn’t about having thick skin, its about knowing how government works and why it works the way it does. Heads have already rolled for fraud, that’s one reason most of these existing systems are in place. Can it be optimized? Maybe, but you can’t do that on a whim.
Listening_Heads on
Al Franken 2.0
MuddyWattersKnew on
Jesus, I hate that I ever thought this guy had a spine
Idiodyssey87 on
No! Tim this isn’t the Democratic way to drop out of a reelection campaign. You’re supposed to hold on until after the primary, embarrass yourself nationally in a debate, waffle for another three weeks, and finally drop out 100 days before the general so your replacement has no chance.
changeforthebetter89 on
Another reason why they lost the 2024 election. Too much baggage
Phantom-Finger on
What a moronic and spineless decision Tim. No wonder Dems keep losing
Willing_Drawer_3351 on
Fuck this guy. Worst VP candidate and apparently an incompetent governor.
cctoot56 on
In the eyes of the public, announcing that he will not seek reelection during this “scandal” is tantamount to admitting culpability
Cool_Breakfast_9015 on
He’s got a track record of taking Ls.
BluffJunkie on
Seems everyone guilty of something that becomes mainstream says they wont run again next election. Except for…? Ok other than boardmembers of companies maybe
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Democrats are so weak, Rick Scott’s company committed the largest Medicare / Medicaid fraud in the country and the guy is went on to be governor of Florida and is now a sitting Senator. Grow a spine Democrats.
What is with these weak comments? Is this sub being brigaded? It’s a shame he’s being hounded out of running again. Based on the comments on multiple posts I understand why. People suck.
I do not need this on a Monday morning, coming back from the holidays.
Walz quitting the race feels like the Dems hitting unsubscribe on Minnesota. Midterms just got a whole lot spicier.
Good for him. I hope he gets more time with his kids.
Morality is an institutional pillar in the democratic party the way it is not in the republican counterpart. That’s why the Republicans can continue with electoral security for even apparent conduct of the same misbehavior.
And all of that money Republicans spent attacking him over now goes to waste as they now have to prepare to fight an unknown candidate.
Guessing the Republican think tanks figure this is still an improvement. But they still need to announce a candidate and try to push some lame duck over the finish line
Really? Tim Walz is going to let the facists bully him into not running for reelection? I am so damn tired of them bossing and pushing the progressives around. Why do they always win? ☹️
Trump and co effectively tainted Walz. It sucks, but the GOP doesn’t realize basically any dem will be able to beat their upcoming candidate — whether it’s the coke addled my pillow guy or some other deplorable recruit.
They just made a Dem victory more likely.
I love seeing general Reddits take on things, it always amazes me to see the snap takes. Looking at r/Minnesota this is not just about the childcare thing. First off Walz is a two term governor, no governor has ever won a third term with their 4 year terms. It’s rare for an incumbent to even seek a third term. Second, he has other state issues he is in danger of becoming a scapegoat for in the state. But please Reddit, continue to be outraged.
Probably the smartest move to be honest. There’s already been people charged with this entire situation. I don’t think anything has come out that he himself has been involved, has known about it, or supported it, but this is a huge issue that you really can’t have hanging around. If you want to keep control of the governor office, you really need to run with someone that doesn’t have something like this hanging around them.
That being said, I’m curious what comes out of this. Was he involved, did he know about it and try to hide it? I’m just curious where the investigation winds up, since my understanding is that this has been going on for some time, and there are people out there that have already been arrested related to this.
It’s interesting how, when Democrats are in the minority, they ask us to accept that they have no levers to do anything, but when Republicans are in the minority, this never seems to stop them from sabotaging shit and making heads roll.
What’s with the learned helplessness, Dems? How many times do you need to get (us) fucked over before you learn how to fight?
We let policy be defined by fake YouTube videos. We are truly a nation of idiots.
The pillow guy must be jumping for joy.
Shame, he’s one of the good, strong politicians that we need more of.
The North Star is looking quite dim today. 😔
I’m really sad to hear this. I’ve voted for him three times (twice here in MN, once for VP) I’ve thought he’s done a really good job. I’m now worried depending on who runs, we might end up flipping red which is something that I absolutely do not want to happen.
Honestly if they had a whataboutism debate, I think nearly all democratic officials would think twice about how good their chances of winning are…would never see one of them drop out of an election again.
Everyone’s all about “forgiveness” and “people change, the past is the past!” as a way to pretty much excuse any and all actions and words spoken/written previously….but we really need to go back to holding what people do against them WITH prejudice, and start actively punishing the vocal supporters that allow this shit to fester in our communities with real tangible consequences.
If we’re not getting Black Panthers 2.0 admist all these Proud Boy gatherings, then at least pretend to have SOME spine and don’t allow these people peace in their daily lives.
And now you see why these sorts of faux outrage campaigns are immensely successful.
Just another deer that runs from hearing a twig snap, this time in human form. No fight whatsoever.
He’s served his tour of duty and wants to protect his family. Younger folks need to step up, serve, and fight. These lame hit jobs are created for clicks and clout, and benefits if it actually pressures Dems in office. Learn to fight back, expose their tactics, diffuse the drama, stay focused on leading responsibly.
So this is the playbook now? Abandoning the field and letting MAGA run whatever narrative they want while Dems just throw their hands up and give in without offering any pushback? This party is such a joke if we can’t even have leaders who don’t fold and give up at the first sign of trouble – especially trouble that he wasn’t even part of.
Once again teaching these entitled deranged sycophants that yelling loud enough does indeed work
Sadly understandable. His family’s safety is his top priority right now, especially with the constant threats they’re receiving.
Huge mistake.
Time to vote yes on some controversial shit
Wanting to make sure his family is safe from weirdos/Wanting his mental health to be better = Cowardice
We keep losing this “war” because people on the left are just as insane as the right.
Dems are so weak. Holy fuck.
Bad move. The story is a nothing burger. The correct response is not to bow out; that validates the narrative that Republicans have manufactured.
He’s running so not surprising. But the heat he got from fraud claims he already prosecuted is bs. This just shows our messaging is still being drowned out by bs Trump maga shitheads.
It’s Nov 6th, 2024 all over.
Either he doesn’t have a spine or there are worse allegations coming up.
Wasn’t this a scandal in 2020 and it wasn’t caused by Somalian immigrants but a PPP loan scandal?
People are acting like he personally signed off on these payments.
People are acting like you can stop fraud with taxpayer dollars from happening.
What Governor, or rather CEO of a company knows every little thing that is happening within their company? None. You hire people to make your business function. Government isn’t that different.
We already have a system of checks in balance for government spending in place. It’s not designed to eliminate fraud, its designed to limit it. The balance is where you discover fraud and then follow through the legal system.
Fraud takes time to investigate. You can’t deny funding to those you may be doing fraud, because its all alleged until proven guilty in court. Innocent until proven guilty anyone?
Lastly if you deny funding base on alleged fraud but haven’t taken that individual or company (or whatever) to court yet, they can take you to court for not providing funding and likely win because its all ALLEGED.
Most people are making this whole thing into something when its really nothing. Government spending is already expensive because of all the reporting. If you want to help people you either have very strict reporting which means you are paying for administrative cost as well or you have less strict reporting and that opens up fraud but you can “help” more people.
The harm is far greater to these daycare than the government. So, I’m confident that funding would be forced to be awarded until fraud could be proven without a doubt; in which case you would have filed a lawsuit already to begin with.
This is not holding politicians accountable, this is making the job unbearable, so why would you want to do it? Why help people when all you get is spit on? This isn’t about having thick skin, its about knowing how government works and why it works the way it does. Heads have already rolled for fraud, that’s one reason most of these existing systems are in place. Can it be optimized? Maybe, but you can’t do that on a whim.
Al Franken 2.0
Jesus, I hate that I ever thought this guy had a spine
No! Tim this isn’t the Democratic way to drop out of a reelection campaign. You’re supposed to hold on until after the primary, embarrass yourself nationally in a debate, waffle for another three weeks, and finally drop out 100 days before the general so your replacement has no chance.
Another reason why they lost the 2024 election. Too much baggage
What a moronic and spineless decision Tim. No wonder Dems keep losing
Fuck this guy. Worst VP candidate and apparently an incompetent governor.
In the eyes of the public, announcing that he will not seek reelection during this “scandal” is tantamount to admitting culpability
He’s got a track record of taking Ls.
Seems everyone guilty of something that becomes mainstream says they wont run again next election. Except for…? Ok other than boardmembers of companies maybe
The mental gymnastics here is insane