I did buy a super cheap Dell laptop last year because it had Linux support.
RidleyDeckard on
It’s not just AI PCs we don’t care about, it’s AI.
So_average on
Consumers don’t care about Microsoft AI Slop infected PCs.
There you go.
CaptainC0medy on
Eeeey one crumbling realization after another
LetterLegal8543 on
Don’t care about. Hate with a passion. Same difference.
roodammy44 on
I care about AI PCs, I care about making sure not to get one. I can run LLMs perfectly well on an ordinary PC without all the data harvesting and privacy violations.
johnboyjr29 on
I don’t even know what it means when I see a ai sticker on pc. I just assume it’s a sticker they slapped on it
Correct_Emu7015 on
We DO care that Dell supports fascist pedophile war criminals though.
DataCassette on
I like to use Google Gemini and ChatGPT when and how I *want* to use them. Not as unwanted spyware just so I can give up my privacy to train your models.
papabear1993 on
Thats not true! I care a lot about AI PCs! We always check hard to be certain that our PC dont have anything related to AI 😛
geoken on
Because they’re intentionally hobbled so Microsoft can upsell.
I trialed some to see if the basic local model could handle OS wide grammar checking and super basic AI stuff ( because 95% of what people do with AI in my corp is basically getting it to rewrite shit for them).
Wanderlust692 on
Consumers want to buy products that work and improve their lives, which AI bloatware evidently does not do. More news at 11
painteroftheword on
Most of the AI integration is either neutral where it be ignored or actively obnoxious where is actively worsens the user experience.
Petty stuff like replacing useful button with an AI button to trick you into selecting it is really annoying. Happens on my phone and various software I routinely use.
Automatic and unstoppable post-processing of photos on a mobile phone that essentially ruins already good photos is a pain in the arse and has basically stopped me taking good photos.
People don’t want random shit they didn’t ask for shoehorned into their electronic devices, especially when it degrades the usability of those devices.
healeyd on
Yeah there’s no doubt AI is hugely useful for many areas in research, but for most end-users I’m getting 3D TV/Cinema vibes.
SchmeckleHoarder on
How long did these dumb asses sit in a room even coming up with a stupid name like “co-pilot.”
everything_is_bad on
Actually I care very much. I really super extra do not want AI fucking anywhere around me.
Tenocticatl on
Fully agree with Dave here. I’m only going to care about the specs insofar as I can see what they allow me to do. Hardware companies keep forgetting that your pitch for hardware needs to be, “this new thing allows you to do cool stuff. This cool stuff!” And then show off said cool stuff being done. Like, if the NPU means I can edit photos in Photoshop for an additional two hours on battery, I don’t really care but someone who’s into photo editing away from a power outlet would probably find that interesting. Pretty much all the local Windows AI features I’ve heard about until now are so gimmicky. I don’t care about live video filters on my webcam feed, and I certainly don’t care about LLM “enhanced” Windows search. I want file indexing to improve.
brycepunk1 on
Put em on the shelf next to the 3-D televisions.
Hashabasha on
there are a couple of useful AI features i use on windows which i appreciate but the vast majority for shit like image generation is downright useless.
LionTigerWings on
Here’s the thing. People actually like ChatGPT and similar.
Nobody wants shitty tacked on software and people don’t typically care about these integrations. Chat gpt can run on a potato, nobody needs special hardware to run it.
LoreBadTime on
I care for AI PC since few TOPS on mobile would be helpful for computer vision or other ML related things, however I can’t even use the NPU and I’m surely not willing to have one to help their servers with useless slop and tracking.
Microslop
Lurk5FailOnSax on
Is it Dell admitting shit day, today? Are they going to cough to not really caring about the consumer market generally due to their mainly corporate sales focus with a predictable replacement schedule?
Regime_Change on
Surprise… Most consumers wants to pay their bills, watch netflix and/or play video games. Most consumers want to consume rather than produce information.
pgtl_10 on
That article is four paragraphs in before getting to the main point.
ash_ninetyone on
AI has turned into being a term to simplify technobabble.
Why go through writing something like “our advanced design processes elimate noise and thermals by improving efficiency through the use of thermoelectromechanic transduction” when you can write “AI go brr”
Captain_Leemu on
I’m already preparing for the implosion of the internet. Ive never really been interested in social media and have always been privacy oriented but with the way things are going, if you are not getting reamed by the companies that own everything then you are being restricted by the government. Internet freedom is under attack world wide and is in peril. They want you to upload your ID to see porn or send your friend a message on xbox. I dont even send my own mother pictures of myself let alone the ID with all my hackable information to these infant foreign verification companies that popped up just before law came into affect. All these hamfisted laws to punish us for using the internet because parents just hand devices to their kids with no restrictions and then complain about it. Or simply because the government wants to restrict our ability to communicate and discern fact from fiction.
Either the internet will be restricted like china does or will need ID to access so you are trackable and matchable and i will be ready for that with my massive library of media and offline information.
I’ve been learning linux so i don’t need to rely on windows as that is being run into the ground.
Been stacking tonnes of drives with all my games and movies from steam and “other sources” and a lot of blu rays for additional backups of the most important stuff.
I have a full download of everything in wikipedia. Dictionaries and a thesaurus for most major languages
Full map of my country downloaded.
I’ve been un-googling all my connections and logins and moving completely to FOSS software when possible.
I have also now collected every major games console since the 90s and modded them. Most worthwhile games for all these consoles have also been backed up in case the original disc breaks or the drive fails.
I’m now also toying with the idea of replacing my smart home system with something FOSS.
Angelofpity on
To say I don’t care is incorrect. I have very strong opinions in fact.
TheFoxsWeddingTarot on
“Ai inside” is the “batteries included” of laptops.
DoCrashOut on
If AI related services and products were actually cheaper for consumers, then maybe we’d care.
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I did buy a super cheap Dell laptop last year because it had Linux support.
It’s not just AI PCs we don’t care about, it’s AI.
Consumers don’t care about Microsoft AI Slop infected PCs.
There you go.
Eeeey one crumbling realization after another
Don’t care about. Hate with a passion. Same difference.
I care about AI PCs, I care about making sure not to get one. I can run LLMs perfectly well on an ordinary PC without all the data harvesting and privacy violations.
I don’t even know what it means when I see a ai sticker on pc. I just assume it’s a sticker they slapped on it
We DO care that Dell supports fascist pedophile war criminals though.
I like to use Google Gemini and ChatGPT when and how I *want* to use them. Not as unwanted spyware just so I can give up my privacy to train your models.
Thats not true! I care a lot about AI PCs! We always check hard to be certain that our PC dont have anything related to AI 😛
Because they’re intentionally hobbled so Microsoft can upsell.
I trialed some to see if the basic local model could handle OS wide grammar checking and super basic AI stuff ( because 95% of what people do with AI in my corp is basically getting it to rewrite shit for them).
Consumers want to buy products that work and improve their lives, which AI bloatware evidently does not do. More news at 11
Most of the AI integration is either neutral where it be ignored or actively obnoxious where is actively worsens the user experience.
Petty stuff like replacing useful button with an AI button to trick you into selecting it is really annoying. Happens on my phone and various software I routinely use.
Automatic and unstoppable post-processing of photos on a mobile phone that essentially ruins already good photos is a pain in the arse and has basically stopped me taking good photos.
People don’t want random shit they didn’t ask for shoehorned into their electronic devices, especially when it degrades the usability of those devices.
Yeah there’s no doubt AI is hugely useful for many areas in research, but for most end-users I’m getting 3D TV/Cinema vibes.
How long did these dumb asses sit in a room even coming up with a stupid name like “co-pilot.”
Actually I care very much. I really super extra do not want AI fucking anywhere around me.
Fully agree with Dave here. I’m only going to care about the specs insofar as I can see what they allow me to do. Hardware companies keep forgetting that your pitch for hardware needs to be, “this new thing allows you to do cool stuff. This cool stuff!” And then show off said cool stuff being done. Like, if the NPU means I can edit photos in Photoshop for an additional two hours on battery, I don’t really care but someone who’s into photo editing away from a power outlet would probably find that interesting. Pretty much all the local Windows AI features I’ve heard about until now are so gimmicky. I don’t care about live video filters on my webcam feed, and I certainly don’t care about LLM “enhanced” Windows search. I want file indexing to improve.
Put em on the shelf next to the 3-D televisions.
there are a couple of useful AI features i use on windows which i appreciate but the vast majority for shit like image generation is downright useless.
Here’s the thing. People actually like ChatGPT and similar.
Nobody wants shitty tacked on software and people don’t typically care about these integrations. Chat gpt can run on a potato, nobody needs special hardware to run it.
I care for AI PC since few TOPS on mobile would be helpful for computer vision or other ML related things, however I can’t even use the NPU and I’m surely not willing to have one to help their servers with useless slop and tracking.
Microslop
Is it Dell admitting shit day, today? Are they going to cough to not really caring about the consumer market generally due to their mainly corporate sales focus with a predictable replacement schedule?
Surprise… Most consumers wants to pay their bills, watch netflix and/or play video games. Most consumers want to consume rather than produce information.
That article is four paragraphs in before getting to the main point.
AI has turned into being a term to simplify technobabble.
Why go through writing something like “our advanced design processes elimate noise and thermals by improving efficiency through the use of thermoelectromechanic transduction” when you can write “AI go brr”
I’m already preparing for the implosion of the internet. Ive never really been interested in social media and have always been privacy oriented but with the way things are going, if you are not getting reamed by the companies that own everything then you are being restricted by the government. Internet freedom is under attack world wide and is in peril. They want you to upload your ID to see porn or send your friend a message on xbox. I dont even send my own mother pictures of myself let alone the ID with all my hackable information to these infant foreign verification companies that popped up just before law came into affect. All these hamfisted laws to punish us for using the internet because parents just hand devices to their kids with no restrictions and then complain about it. Or simply because the government wants to restrict our ability to communicate and discern fact from fiction.
Either the internet will be restricted like china does or will need ID to access so you are trackable and matchable and i will be ready for that with my massive library of media and offline information.
I’ve been learning linux so i don’t need to rely on windows as that is being run into the ground.
Been stacking tonnes of drives with all my games and movies from steam and “other sources” and a lot of blu rays for additional backups of the most important stuff.
I have a full download of everything in wikipedia. Dictionaries and a thesaurus for most major languages
Full map of my country downloaded.
I’ve been un-googling all my connections and logins and moving completely to FOSS software when possible.
I have also now collected every major games console since the 90s and modded them. Most worthwhile games for all these consoles have also been backed up in case the original disc breaks or the drive fails.
I’m now also toying with the idea of replacing my smart home system with something FOSS.
To say I don’t care is incorrect. I have very strong opinions in fact.
“Ai inside” is the “batteries included” of laptops.
If AI related services and products were actually cheaper for consumers, then maybe we’d care.