Someone out there really hates to wait around.

Posted by blueishbeaver

48 Comments

  1. Remarkable_Catch_953 on

    Quite a valid point though. All our traffic lights are designed to make life as painless as possible for motorists at the expense of pedestrians.

    Most crossings should change soon after a pedestrian has requested it, rather than making them wait 2 minutes in the burning sun.

  2. blueishbeaver on

    I would vote to install a human traffic controller at the Post Office on Queen Street for the efficiency and the whimsy.

  3. If you can’t wait the 90 seconds it realistically takes you probably have bigger issues. Breathe in, enjoy the moment. Relax. Why is everyone in such a rush?

  4. Lower_Concept1565 on

    there’s some down sides like some unfunny pranksters could keep on pressing it to jam traffic

  5. I hate it when I drive towards an intersection and I get stuck at a red for 5 minutes and there wasn’t even a fucking single car there for miles

  6. Brisbane is weirdly car centric. I used to walk everywhere when I lived more centrally and it was pretty common for pedestrian access to be completely blocked off on streets with no warning and no alternative.

    Not sure if it counts as jay walking but I’d end up having to walk in the road with a barrier on one side and traffic on the other because there was no alternative.

  7. 2nd-Reddit-Account on

    The whole reason most cities disable the button (atleast when it’s not the middle of the night) is because traffic sequencing is way more complicated than most people give it credit for.

    Trying to clear traffic waiting at one intersection without it fucking the next 3 intersections in each direction is like trying to actively manipulate the butterfly effect on a city sized scale.

    The people who create the cycle timings literally go to uni and do “traffic engineering” as a post grad unit after a civil engineering degree.

    Unfortunately, pedestrians don’t exactly have traffic jams the same way cars do, so they end up lower on the priority list.

    It’s not that council (or the state level transport department) are just inherently evil and hate pedestrians, it’s because pedestrians stuck waiting is largely consequence free, but stopping a 6 lane road because someone wants to cross RIGHT NOW can definitely stuff up more than just the intersection you’re standing at

  8. I’ve used pedestrian crossings where the ‘walk’ lights don’t come on at all unless you hit the button. I realised this after waiting through two whole traffic cycles without a chance to cross.

  9. Love how the Brisbane City logo below looks like a big middle finger, possibly in response.

  10. That bicycle lane on Edward St is poorly designed. It takes a cyclist 5 minutes to ride down there using the bicycle lanes and waiting at each intersection for the entire cycle of traffic lights.
    However the traffic lights are timed so the motorist gets the “green wave” of lights in a row. Motorist can go down Edward Street in 38 seconds.
    But oh! We support active travel! Says BCC. Like F*** you do.

  11. nomorebeellionaires on

    Not really, I think they just don’t like being a second class citizen because they are not in a car. The thing that kills thousands of people in Australia every year many of which are people standing and waiting at lights such as this.

  12. Big-Dragonfruit-4306 on

    In the Netherlands they don’t even use beg buttons. The intersection uses sensors or something to see you coming and switches to cross before you even get there. If it’s good enough for other, better cities then why not Brisbane? Brisbane road infrastructure (not to mention drivers) is actively hostile to pedestrians currently. It’s fucked.

  13. stinkygeesestink on

    It would be nice if the intersection could at least determine that no car has come through for a good amount of time. It’s annoying when you’re waiting for nothing. I’ve crossed sandgate road to toombul station and been stuck waiting for nothing for 2 minutes.

  14. I saw of those today as well!

    I get it though, it sucks donkey balls having to wait 5-10 minutes to travel, what? how long is a crossing at most 20 meters?

  15. Brisbane Metropolitan Transport Management Centre (BMTMC) determines the sequencing of the lights and, on some intersections, can even alter the sequencing in real time (for accidents/protests/sporting events for example). To influence the priorities you probably need to be heard by all three entities:

    * Brisbane Metropolitan Transport Management Centre
    * Department of Transport and Main Roads
    * Brisbane City Council

    Good luck.

    The Dutch seem to have it all sorted with their change-on-detection systems. We have the technology I’m sure we could build something which would change the lights according to what is coming/waiting.

    Personally, it drives me nuts when, we sit at a red light with nothing going through the intersection. Then, just as something arrives to go through, the lights will change.

  16. jordyjordy1111 on

    There were times back when I was working in an office that I actually got annoyed when the light changed to quickly after I pressed the button. I was not at all in a hurry to get back to work.

  17. Majestic_Original_47 on

    Would be great if we could replace on street parking with extra-wide sidewalks. Trouble is, there’s money to be made with on street parking.

  18. subtropicalennui on

    The one that really shits me is the five way at Ann St/Skyring. You’re lucky to get across Ann St in one go.

  19. Something I’ve noticed in Brisbane for DECADES is that at some intersections, the lights only change for pedestrians when you push the button… but if there are no cars around for fucking miles, you literally can’t see any, the lights could change immediately and no-one would be slowed down… but no. The lights WAIT until there’s a car approaching that they can turn red for. It’s kinda fucking sadistic to be able to turn at any time but wait until it fucking inconveniences someone. 

  20. sunflower-saga on

    I feel like waiting for ages in the cbd is not too bad if it’s a diagonal crossing, but if it isn’t the wait should be shorter.

  21. The Brisbane pedestrian infrastructure is just as good as I remember it being in the Netherlands. In the 1980s.

  22. This isn’t advocacy for either viewpoint, but years ago I worked in traffic staging for multi-stage construction.

    It’s not really a “cars vs people” angle, it’s all about overall efficiency. It’s far more grey, impersonal and boring than most would like to imagine.

    It’s not very exciting but old cities with large population influx are a nightmare and the cost to fix it makes politicians quiver. It’s pretty sad that there is no generational thought and only election cycle style thinking when it comes to solving our major civil infrastructure issues.

  23. HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

    Aaah, that’s a good one.

    … are they new to the city? 🤣

  24. When I was studying electronics, one of the guys joked to go around to all the traffic lights and reprogram them, so that the more you pushed the button, the longer it would take for the walk signal to activate.

    I also miss the days where once you pressed the button, it would light up to say it’s acknowledge the request to cross and save every other person coming up and pushing the button afterwards.

  25. Murky_Ambassador2418 on

    I embrace the diversity of all the colours of the signals and will walk through all of them.

  26. dorcus_malorcus on

    there is a crossing in stanley street that goes green right after you press it. i think it was installed purely for pedestrian safety on a very busy road.

    it’s so good and feels wierd after being conditioned to wait for cars at most of them.

  27. LongjumpingCellist35 on

    Overly simplistic comments here.
    Imagine if even half the intersections in the cbd had signals triggered instantly by.pedestrians. it would be chaos. Cars would never move, might as well make it a grid of a malls.

    The lights, to an extent work as a network so that cars dont queue through intersections.

    Ann St and Skyring is a major way in/out of the city for motorists- and skyring was a very recent addition. The only solution would have been a magical pedestrian bridge there.

  28. AstronautNumberOne on

    Yeah. It’s pretty annoying, particularly when you find out in other countries it’s a lot better for pedestrians. The one thing that really annoys me is when I’m trying to cross a busy intersection. I’ve got to cross three different ways instead of just crossing the closest way.

  29. You can’t make a button that allows you to “cross now”. Just think of all the idiots that would just press it to screw with traffic. From my understanding, the only thing the button does is give you a couple more seconds to cross the road.

  30. DaveySmith2319 on

    Wow, as someone from a more regional town, I thought Brisbane’s pedestrian crossings were phenomenal. They changed so fast and stayed green for so long compared to what I was used to. Crazy to see so many here think it’s car centric.

  31. Next-Database-8581 on

    You would not have massive amounts of people at lights if you did not have the stupid Jaywalk rule. Forcing people to cross at lights.
    If you want more people walking or take public transport then people should have priority.

    I come from South Africa, and we don’t have Jaywalking rules. Road rule is simple,
    If you drive a vehicle of any kind, and you bump into anything, YOU are responsible and will be charged, regardless if you had right of way.

    Basically it requires the person who drives something that can damage or hurt people to the conditions of the road, regardless of speed limit and regardless of right of way. But Australians seem conditioned that if you drive you own the road, you don’t, it is a shared path. Take some responsibility.

    Peds should NOT be harassed by police if crossing was safe ie, no incoming cars for several meters, regardless or where a light is.
    Certainly give a ticket if they put themselves or others in danger.

  32. I have counted the amount of time I wait. As a pedestrian, and as a motorist. I’m almost always surprised at how short a time it actually is. A minute seems like it’s forever.

    I wonder if they are the sort of person that pushes the button multiple times very quickly. With great vigour.