>But on Monday Sir Sadiq said London was “more than two-and-a-half times safer than New York, five times safer than LA, 12 times safer than Chicago”.
Fair point to only mention American cities when talking to Trump, but doesn’t fill me with much confidence otherwise.
Grizzally on
Top 5 most crime ridden cities in Europe England has 3. Bradford, Coventry and Birmingham. Bradford being the worst in Europe.
Trump could have picked a worst city in England but he picked London because he probably doesn’t know England has other cities. Caring about what he says and doing what Saddiq did by biting back is stupid. No one should humour him with attention.
MissAntiRacist on
It is objectively not one of the safest cities in the world, what an ignorant and moronic statement. London isn’t even close to being one of the safest cities in the UK lmao.
SideburnsOfDoom on
> London ‘one of the safest’ cities in the world, Sir Sadiq Khan says,
It is technically true that “Sir Sadiq Khan says” this. But also that sells it short: the facts of the matter say this. Not just him.
Dapper_Otters on
I’ll never understand why so many people in the UK desperately want our capital to have a reputation for crime, will side with American brain rot on trying to push such a false narrative, and even get angry at the evidence to the contrary.
Edit: seems I’ve attracted a few adjective-noun-number friends.
Gentle_Snail on
The perplexing attacks against London are too targeted to be random.
London has much lower homicide rate than most other major european cities and almost all US ones, yet weird right wing politicians continue to present it as some kind of no go zone where even the police are afraid to tred
Pogeos on
I’ve already mentioned this on another sub, while homicides fall, the perception of crime rate is formed by different metrics (as most people in our part of the world, luckily don’t bother about homicide on a daily basis). Crimes that most people are concerned these days (and criticise the police for) are theft (mobile phones, bicycles), burglary, shoplifting (we visibly see shops turning into fortresses), drug abuse. Apart from drugs, theft, burglary, shoplifting – are all on a massive rise for many years, with a huge acceleration over the last 3 years. I don’t have stats to show successful resolution rate for those, but I suspect that trend is downwards.
People hating on London keeps the population under control, they are mental but I’m glad it makes my commute or walk around central that bit easier
MapDiscombobulated1 on
Nobody should be giving a single shit what the Orange Fuckknuckle has to say about the safety of, or otherwise of another Country.
_Ottir_ on
Third of all reported knife enabled crime occurs in London and the number of reported incidents has increased since last year.
Rape is up, theft from a person is up, theft from shops is up, sexual assaults are up, knife enabled crime is up (as I mentioned), offensive weapon related crime is up and drug related crime is up.
Fewer murders, true. Fewer assaults with injury, also true.
But let’s fucking honest without ourselves please.
Is London a crime ridden cesspool? No. Is London “one of the safest cities in the world”? Also no ffs.
Successful-Eagle-855 on
Among the world’s 50 most dangerous cities, all are located in developing or emerging countries, which is broadly what one would expect. There is, however, ONE FULLY DEVELOPED NATION that also made the list, with three of its cities appearing in the top 50. You get one guess which country that is.
(2 of those cities are in red states, 1 in a swing state)
Dry-Enthusiasm-9451 on
Use your eyes and see London for yourself. Or use your ears and talk to people who actually live there. Crime is worse than it’s ever been in London. Stats are so easily manipulated these days that they become worthless.
BunAZoot420 on
I think we can all agree, fuck trump
But let’s be honest here, I live in London and it has got significantly more dangerous year by year and I’ve lived here over 10 years
My sisters have been robbed and assaulted, and me and my mates have had multiple scraps with teens/young adults wearing balaclavas driving stolen mopeds or e-bikes.
I have a female friend who gets the tube everyday to work and I’m sure is weary of the fact that sexual offences on tubes are at a 5 year high, not to mention
Shoplifting – up 20% – highest on record.
Theft from the person – Up significantly
Phone thefts – 80,000 stolen in 2024, my sister just a few months back had hers snatched
Possession of offensive weapons — Up
Freezer_Ruebuck on
The funniest thing is Trump speaks about London being an unsafe place while he got the army walking around DC.
Lived in london for many years and as someone who would be beaten up by a light breeze. Its funny seeing so many tough guys from my hometown shudder in fear of London. I had more instances where i felt unsafe in my hometown in counties than London.
shellypiee on
I dont understand the comments in this thread
As a small woman- I Think people need to get out of their bubbles and walk down kilburn highroad, or cricklewood or even peckham n brixton. 5pm in the winter. Report back. Do u feel safe?
Capital-Attitude-770 on
I grew up in NYC as a child and attended university there . Ive had NYPD pull guns on me on multiple occasions, gangbangers too .When an uzi appears its fucking terrifying,but when a cop ,whose all sweaty and white and fat and under fucked pulls his weapon on you for merely being outside a bar during someone else’s altercation . It very quickly focus’s the mind.”what have I done?” “FUCK YOU ! On the ground ,tell your bitch to stop shouting”,(girlfriend ,now wife of 33 yrs ), Ive lived in London, Paris and also grew up for a time in Jamaica ….Ive never had trouble, i can’t deal with ,in London !
Capital-Attitude-770 on
I grew up in NYC as a child and attended university there . Ive had NYPD pull guns on me on multiple occasions, gangbangers too .When an uzi appears its fucking terrifying,but when a cop ,whose all sweaty and white and fat and under fucked pulls his weapon on you for merely being outside a bar during someone else’s altercation . It very quickly focus’s the mind.”what have I done?” “FUCK YOU ! On the ground ,tell your bitch to stop shouting”,(girlfriend ,now wife of 33 yrs ), Ive lived in London, Paris and also grew up for a time in Jamaica ….Ive never had trouble, i can’t deal with ,in London !
SallyCinnamon88 on
And we didn’t even have to shoot an unarmed mother at point blank range 3 times in the face to do it!
5ubredhit on
To say London’s ‘one of the safest cities in the world’ based, I assume, on the homicide rate dropping is rather misleading, and a lie, in my opinion. I don’t think you can be ranked 14th for crime in Europe alone and class yourself as one of the safest cities in the world. I’d say it’s nowhere near one of the safest in the world. In fact I’ve just looked at we’re ranked 241st place out of 300. So a load of rubbish are we one of the safest.
painteroftheword on
100% less likely to be shot in the face by Trump goons whilst going about your day.
santsord on
We should be very careful about selected stats. The NHS has just got significantly better at dealing with knife crime so they save a lot more people they treat.
A real tell is crime rates per capita. But that also relies on people reporting, if sentiment or confidence in police drops less people tend to report.
We shouldn’t ignore general sentiment and feeling, it’s also important.
[deleted] on
Doesn’t London have “Mind the Gap” signage on the road to make people aware of phone snatchers on bikes?
Sounds incredibly safe. I think people are so desensitised to the crime, that when crime stats ostensibly drop for a year or so, they perceive that as London now being safe, as opposed to a city where a rape is *reported* every hour.
Rough-Army-6424 on
Is that why he drives around in a bulletproofed Range Rover with floor blast protection and armoured glass?
Doc-Spock on
The internet is such a fantastic invention, but sadly – one of the things that I think is the biggest shame is how it can perpetuate close mindedness and misinformation. There is a wealth of knowledge from reputable (and easily verfiable) sources out there, but people continue to buy into the nonsense that gets reposted about a lot of things: such as London being a dangerous, crime-filled city. Not everyone will get the chance to visit London, but there’s plenty who have, not only visited, but lived in London to disprove such stories.
I’m not saying London doesn’t have crime – everywhere has crime, that’s why we still need police, but to say that it’s one of the ‘most dangerous cities in the world’ as some would have you believe is such an insult to basic thinking.
Rich-Astronomer7937 on
There is no truth in right wing rhetoric
Their claims to power built are entirely built on lies
And their lies about London are just another example of that
PsychologySpecific16 on
Tokyo or similar should be the approximate goal. Biggest city in the world yet they can leave wallets and phones to save a table in a packed bar.
Khan is right but I don’t think current crime rates should be celebrated. We should be looking to be the best (as Khan keeps on telling everyone London is).
fingertipoffun on
Also, you don’t get executed with bullets to the face for protesting in London.
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>But on Monday Sir Sadiq said London was “more than two-and-a-half times safer than New York, five times safer than LA, 12 times safer than Chicago”.
Fair point to only mention American cities when talking to Trump, but doesn’t fill me with much confidence otherwise.
Top 5 most crime ridden cities in Europe England has 3. Bradford, Coventry and Birmingham. Bradford being the worst in Europe.
Trump could have picked a worst city in England but he picked London because he probably doesn’t know England has other cities. Caring about what he says and doing what Saddiq did by biting back is stupid. No one should humour him with attention.
It is objectively not one of the safest cities in the world, what an ignorant and moronic statement. London isn’t even close to being one of the safest cities in the UK lmao.
> London ‘one of the safest’ cities in the world, Sir Sadiq Khan says,
It is technically true that “Sir Sadiq Khan says” this. But also that sells it short: the facts of the matter say this. Not just him.
I’ll never understand why so many people in the UK desperately want our capital to have a reputation for crime, will side with American brain rot on trying to push such a false narrative, and even get angry at the evidence to the contrary.
Edit: seems I’ve attracted a few adjective-noun-number friends.
The perplexing attacks against London are too targeted to be random.
London has much lower homicide rate than most other major european cities and almost all US ones, yet weird right wing politicians continue to present it as some kind of no go zone where even the police are afraid to tred
I’ve already mentioned this on another sub, while homicides fall, the perception of crime rate is formed by different metrics (as most people in our part of the world, luckily don’t bother about homicide on a daily basis). Crimes that most people are concerned these days (and criticise the police for) are theft (mobile phones, bicycles), burglary, shoplifting (we visibly see shops turning into fortresses), drug abuse. Apart from drugs, theft, burglary, shoplifting – are all on a massive rise for many years, with a huge acceleration over the last 3 years. I don’t have stats to show successful resolution rate for those, but I suspect that trend is downwards.
look here [Greater London Crime and Safety Statistics | CrimeRate](https://crimerate.co.uk/london)
People hating on London keeps the population under control, they are mental but I’m glad it makes my commute or walk around central that bit easier
Nobody should be giving a single shit what the Orange Fuckknuckle has to say about the safety of, or otherwise of another Country.
Third of all reported knife enabled crime occurs in London and the number of reported incidents has increased since last year.
Rape is up, theft from a person is up, theft from shops is up, sexual assaults are up, knife enabled crime is up (as I mentioned), offensive weapon related crime is up and drug related crime is up.
Fewer murders, true. Fewer assaults with injury, also true.
But let’s fucking honest without ourselves please.
Is London a crime ridden cesspool? No. Is London “one of the safest cities in the world”? Also no ffs.
Among the world’s 50 most dangerous cities, all are located in developing or emerging countries, which is broadly what one would expect. There is, however, ONE FULLY DEVELOPED NATION that also made the list, with three of its cities appearing in the top 50. You get one guess which country that is.
(2 of those cities are in red states, 1 in a swing state)
Use your eyes and see London for yourself. Or use your ears and talk to people who actually live there. Crime is worse than it’s ever been in London. Stats are so easily manipulated these days that they become worthless.
I think we can all agree, fuck trump
But let’s be honest here, I live in London and it has got significantly more dangerous year by year and I’ve lived here over 10 years
My sisters have been robbed and assaulted, and me and my mates have had multiple scraps with teens/young adults wearing balaclavas driving stolen mopeds or e-bikes.
I have a female friend who gets the tube everyday to work and I’m sure is weary of the fact that sexual offences on tubes are at a 5 year high, not to mention
Shoplifting – up 20% – highest on record.
Theft from the person – Up significantly
Phone thefts – 80,000 stolen in 2024, my sister just a few months back had hers snatched
Possession of offensive weapons — Up
The funniest thing is Trump speaks about London being an unsafe place while he got the army walking around DC.
Khan is lying.
Crime Category ~2015 Numbers ~2025 Numbers % Change (Approx)
Knife Crime 9,700 14,200 +46%
Sexual Offences 15,100 25,200 +67%
Robbery 21,300 33,500 +57%
Shoplifting 43,800 87,700 +100%
Lived in london for many years and as someone who would be beaten up by a light breeze. Its funny seeing so many tough guys from my hometown shudder in fear of London. I had more instances where i felt unsafe in my hometown in counties than London.
I dont understand the comments in this thread
As a small woman- I Think people need to get out of their bubbles and walk down kilburn highroad, or cricklewood or even peckham n brixton. 5pm in the winter. Report back. Do u feel safe?
I grew up in NYC as a child and attended university there . Ive had NYPD pull guns on me on multiple occasions, gangbangers too .When an uzi appears its fucking terrifying,but when a cop ,whose all sweaty and white and fat and under fucked pulls his weapon on you for merely being outside a bar during someone else’s altercation . It very quickly focus’s the mind.”what have I done?” “FUCK YOU ! On the ground ,tell your bitch to stop shouting”,(girlfriend ,now wife of 33 yrs ), Ive lived in London, Paris and also grew up for a time in Jamaica ….Ive never had trouble, i can’t deal with ,in London !
I grew up in NYC as a child and attended university there . Ive had NYPD pull guns on me on multiple occasions, gangbangers too .When an uzi appears its fucking terrifying,but when a cop ,whose all sweaty and white and fat and under fucked pulls his weapon on you for merely being outside a bar during someone else’s altercation . It very quickly focus’s the mind.”what have I done?” “FUCK YOU ! On the ground ,tell your bitch to stop shouting”,(girlfriend ,now wife of 33 yrs ), Ive lived in London, Paris and also grew up for a time in Jamaica ….Ive never had trouble, i can’t deal with ,in London !
And we didn’t even have to shoot an unarmed mother at point blank range 3 times in the face to do it!
To say London’s ‘one of the safest cities in the world’ based, I assume, on the homicide rate dropping is rather misleading, and a lie, in my opinion. I don’t think you can be ranked 14th for crime in Europe alone and class yourself as one of the safest cities in the world. I’d say it’s nowhere near one of the safest in the world. In fact I’ve just looked at we’re ranked 241st place out of 300. So a load of rubbish are we one of the safest.
100% less likely to be shot in the face by Trump goons whilst going about your day.
We should be very careful about selected stats. The NHS has just got significantly better at dealing with knife crime so they save a lot more people they treat.
A real tell is crime rates per capita. But that also relies on people reporting, if sentiment or confidence in police drops less people tend to report.
We shouldn’t ignore general sentiment and feeling, it’s also important.
Doesn’t London have “Mind the Gap” signage on the road to make people aware of phone snatchers on bikes?
Sounds incredibly safe. I think people are so desensitised to the crime, that when crime stats ostensibly drop for a year or so, they perceive that as London now being safe, as opposed to a city where a rape is *reported* every hour.
Is that why he drives around in a bulletproofed Range Rover with floor blast protection and armoured glass?
The internet is such a fantastic invention, but sadly – one of the things that I think is the biggest shame is how it can perpetuate close mindedness and misinformation. There is a wealth of knowledge from reputable (and easily verfiable) sources out there, but people continue to buy into the nonsense that gets reposted about a lot of things: such as London being a dangerous, crime-filled city. Not everyone will get the chance to visit London, but there’s plenty who have, not only visited, but lived in London to disprove such stories.
I’m not saying London doesn’t have crime – everywhere has crime, that’s why we still need police, but to say that it’s one of the ‘most dangerous cities in the world’ as some would have you believe is such an insult to basic thinking.
There is no truth in right wing rhetoric
Their claims to power built are entirely built on lies
And their lies about London are just another example of that
Tokyo or similar should be the approximate goal. Biggest city in the world yet they can leave wallets and phones to save a table in a packed bar.
Khan is right but I don’t think current crime rates should be celebrated. We should be looking to be the best (as Khan keeps on telling everyone London is).
Also, you don’t get executed with bullets to the face for protesting in London.