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  1. Less-Guest6036 on

    So the U.S. is criticising the UK for not outlawing something that is legal in many U.S. states.

    At the same time the U.S. president has declared himself the acting president of another country, after removing it’s president through military action, is threatening to seize another country and has federal agents shooting innocent civilians and doing door to door raids to punish a community that is pushing back against illegal actions.

  2. IlljustcallhimDave on

    >First cousin marriage laws in the United States vary significantly by state; it is **legal in 18 states** , while 32 states either prohibit it or have restrictions.

  3. Its not healthy to have children with your cousin. That’s a factual statement. Calling it a  civilisation concern is rather hyperbolic. It’s like having children when you know you are carrying a gene that predisposes your child to some shitty disease or illness. It’s a selfish thing to do and I don’t think people should do it, but making that a crime seem a step too far. 

  4. idontlikemondays321 on

    They are right, it is weird and sinister and it should be outlawed. There’s millions of other adults here to marry who don’t share the same grandparents. The only reasons people do it is pressure/force from family or they’re abnormal

  5. Plane-Trip-3928 on

    They are trying to weasel their way around it by pointing out that the first generation of such breeding only slightly increases the chance of such defects in the child. 

    What they are ommiting is that these type of arrangements happen within the family for generation after generation, until you end up with a Habsburgs situation, but at a national scale.

    Even without all this the ethical side of it is icky as fock too. Doesn’t seem very progressive to me for a government that wear the cloak of progressivism to look the other way at backwards behaviour simply because it is being conducted by a minority group.

  6. Sensitive_Echo5058 on

    A lot of the comments here are on the US response with some reasonable comments.

    That said, I think the bigger story for us is that Keir Starmer continues to decline a parliamentary vote on banning cousin marriage. A cultural practice that, in all honesty, should have no place in a civilised society.

    Cousin births can contribute to serious health issues in children, but the economic burden remains unknown. This is because the NHS does not record relevant data.

    I do think this issue needs to be debated in parliament.
    Starmer should not hide away from this just because he doesn’t want to upset one communities sensitivities.

  7. I just couldn’t care less what some Undersecretary of State says in an attempt to change the narrative from “why is US Big Tech fine with making child porn”?

  8. Apart from all the poor disabled people born to the copulating cousins, it costs the tax payer an absolute fortune with all their needs for NHS, education, and a lifetime of welfare and disability payments.

  9. Its legal in mostly Red States in the US

    But they dont care unless its non white people

  10. The US is not a serious voice in any debate.

    Personally i feel cousin marriage should end or be highly discouraged , but that’s our decision, not insane disney world’s concern

  11. DennisAFiveStarMan on

    Can we stop with the whataboutism and agree that cousins shouldn’t be getting married

    This isn’t Shelbyville

  12. DandyLionsInSiberia on

    This isn’t a matter for polite hand-wringing tbh ..

    it’s something that should be stopped outright. Anyone choosing to join British / Broader European society should be clear on one basic premise.- first cousin marriage, especially when repeated over generations, is a health hazard, not a heritage jewel. It significantly raises the risk of genetic and developmental problems that burden children with avoidable limitations before they have even begun life.

    Multiculturalism does not mean importing every custom wholesale and declaring it untouchable. Some traditions belong firmly in the past, or at the very least, elsewhere.

    An expectation of some level of Assimilation isn’t racism; it’s the entry price of a shared society. And if those terms are unacceptable, no one is being held hostage. Other arrangements, in other places, may suit better.

  13. DisastrousResident92 on

    Calling it a “civilisational concern” is obviously hyperbolic but it is worrying that cousin marriage was previously sufficiently rare to not require a ban, and is now sufficiently common that we need to at least discuss a ban