They better watch out, they are about to have to pay a $1,200 fine without admission of guilt
ConsciousVirus7066 on
Oh Oh they better donate to Don… the Ballroom
Chris_HitTheOver on
> The N.T.S.B. has said that cracks in the assembly holding the left-side engine in place may have contributed to the November crash, though it has not officially cited a cause. The part had fractured in similar fashion on at least four other occasions, on three different airplanes, according to the report, which cited a service letter that Boeing issued in 2011 regarding the apparent flaw.
So the left engine fell off, causing a fiery crash and explosion, but we’re not sure if the structural cracks in the assembly that connects the left engine to the left wing was the cause…? Do I have that right?
They just got more bailout money and government contracts, Trump loves death.
xValley_Of_The_Sunx on
We know. Boeing is trash
SharpLocal1235 on
the fact they informed everyone about the issue with the race doesnt exonerate them but it does shift blame. still, they said the fatigue induced separation wouldnt lead to a crash so apparently that was wrong – it mustve resulted in overloading the lugs and causing them to fail as well
wdgiles on
Sure they knew about it, they issued a notice to operators indicating the need for repeated checks and offered a redesigned part, but the original part was never officially removed from airworthiness or whatever the terms are. If it was dangerous enough to need a new design, it was probably dangerous enough to remove from service.
FourEightNineOneOne on
Before we start the “BOEING BAD” comments (which are often well deserved), let’s note a couple things here:
1. The plane wasn’t built by Boeing. It was built by McDonnel Douglas in 1991. Boeing later bought McDonnel Douglas.
2. Boeing acknowledged the structural issue in a memo to all owners of the planes and recommended they inspect it, but that they didn’t believe it would impact any safety on the planes.
3. This report doesn’t conclude that structural flaw caused the engine to separate. It just noted the flaw as a possibility. This isn’t the final report, that will take more time for the NTSB to develop.
4. The plane was 34 years old. Questionable maintenance on the plane is also a likely culprit as to what happened vs a manufacturing flaw on a plane that old.
Funny_Baseball_2431 on
Boeing is in every senator’s pocket
mca1169 on
gosh go figure, it’s just like I said when it happened. someone knew and wasn’t allowed to fix it then the inevitable crash happened. it’s not the first time and won’t be the last.
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Berserker76 on
Why is anyone surprised by this?
“A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.” Fight Club
Financial_Clue_2534 on
Shocking… profits over people
Plebian401 on
Any fines are just the cost of doing business. It’s the same thing for did with the pinto.
blueeyedblack on
Ugh Why does this keeping happening?!?!?
SpewyMcSpewmeister on
When the penny pinching suits run the show this is how it goes.
infinitemagicthings on
Bo be de boo there’s a surprise…
Osirus1156 on
Then the CEO should be in prison for murder.
CT-1065 on
this “Boeing knowing” would be like if whoever made your car knew a bearing would fail after x amount of distance traveled, because their owner’s manual mentioned you should have that part inspected and replaced with a better part
OldMadhatter-100 on
Boeing should be going. Their planes are toxic.
SleepingDragon_ on
> It was taking off from Louisville and bound for Hawaii on Nov. 4 when a fire ignited on its left engine shortly after takeoff.
Is that what happened? A fire?
Jsno23 on
Anything to make more profit!!!! They didnt care I bet because the one loss only sets them back so much , screw peoples lives and anyone else just make that profit . . . When we going to learn Corporations dont care about people ?
CrustedTesticle on
Fine them a couple hundred million dollars.
Antique-Freedom-8352 on
“Take the number of vehicles in the field (A), multiply by the probable rate of failure (B), multiply by the average out-of-court settlement (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one,”
santz007 on
Lol.. The corps own the current govt. All they have to do is pay a tribute to TACO
__redruM on
Was it even a Boeing plane? I thought it was an MD-11 or something similar.
Edit: So according to the article, Boeing purchased McDonnell Douglas.
ChipsAhoy2022 on
Nowadays I actually select flights based on the aircraft flown, even if it means a worse schedule or more expensive ticket.
I genuinely lost all trust in Boeing planes as a commuter.
Bazinga_U_Bitch on
Water is wet! More at six!
Y0___0Y on
The executives at Boeing need to be in prison. HUNDREDS dead from Boeing crashes in the last decade due to problems caused by money grubbing cost cutting.
Cars-n-Cream on
There are so many known issues in every plane and every engine in large jets like this. They have systems in place to routinely inspect and replace parts at very specific intervals. Boeing knows about a lot of flaws in a lot of things. Had anyone known this particular airplane had flaws in it to that extent that would cause that airplane to crash, they would not have hesitated to ground that plane.
ForestFairyForestFun on
i hope there’s a CSB video about this
HolidayNothing171 on
Of course they knew
wrxninja on
Ya, well, no one wanted to die so they kept their mouth shut, of course.
4BR34DB0Y on
No shit. They build whatever measly fines will be lobbed at them after they kill hundreds of people into their bottom line.
ddiggler2469 on
this is what happens when you cut back on regulations and inspections – aka “we should trust the manufacturer to ‘do the right thing'”
Zahgi on
Of course they did…
Cheezeball25 on
Man a whole lotta aviation design experts in here seem to suddenly know everything about aircraft design. Especially given this plane isn’t even a Boeing design….
arrrtvandelyind on
And so did UPS.
HughJorgens on
Remember when companies had to compete, and provide good products or lose the contract?
poppin-n-sailin on
Keep letting them get away with this, and it will continue. anyone surprised by this is a straight up idiot. and no, a few fines isn’t a punishment. like usual, the fines th3se companies face are a drop in the bucket relative to the money and time they’d have to spend fixing issues. but, the people in charge know all this so nothing will change.
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They better watch out, they are about to have to pay a $1,200 fine without admission of guilt
Oh Oh they better donate to Don… the Ballroom
> The N.T.S.B. has said that cracks in the assembly holding the left-side engine in place may have contributed to the November crash, though it has not officially cited a cause. The part had fractured in similar fashion on at least four other occasions, on three different airplanes, according to the report, which cited a service letter that Boeing issued in 2011 regarding the apparent flaw.
So the left engine fell off, causing a fiery crash and explosion, but we’re not sure if the structural cracks in the assembly that connects the left engine to the left wing was the cause…? Do I have that right?
Jesus fucking Christ.
Here is the NTSB accident update: [https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA26MA024%20Investigative%20Update.pdf](https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA26MA024%20Investigative%20Update.pdf)
They just got more bailout money and government contracts, Trump loves death.
We know. Boeing is trash
the fact they informed everyone about the issue with the race doesnt exonerate them but it does shift blame. still, they said the fatigue induced separation wouldnt lead to a crash so apparently that was wrong – it mustve resulted in overloading the lugs and causing them to fail as well
Sure they knew about it, they issued a notice to operators indicating the need for repeated checks and offered a redesigned part, but the original part was never officially removed from airworthiness or whatever the terms are. If it was dangerous enough to need a new design, it was probably dangerous enough to remove from service.
Before we start the “BOEING BAD” comments (which are often well deserved), let’s note a couple things here:
1. The plane wasn’t built by Boeing. It was built by McDonnel Douglas in 1991. Boeing later bought McDonnel Douglas.
2. Boeing acknowledged the structural issue in a memo to all owners of the planes and recommended they inspect it, but that they didn’t believe it would impact any safety on the planes.
3. This report doesn’t conclude that structural flaw caused the engine to separate. It just noted the flaw as a possibility. This isn’t the final report, that will take more time for the NTSB to develop.
4. The plane was 34 years old. Questionable maintenance on the plane is also a likely culprit as to what happened vs a manufacturing flaw on a plane that old.
Boeing is in every senator’s pocket
gosh go figure, it’s just like I said when it happened. someone knew and wasn’t allowed to fix it then the inevitable crash happened. it’s not the first time and won’t be the last.
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Why is anyone surprised by this?
“A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.” Fight Club
Shocking… profits over people
Any fines are just the cost of doing business. It’s the same thing for did with the pinto.
Ugh Why does this keeping happening?!?!?
When the penny pinching suits run the show this is how it goes.
Bo be de boo there’s a surprise…
Then the CEO should be in prison for murder.
this “Boeing knowing” would be like if whoever made your car knew a bearing would fail after x amount of distance traveled, because their owner’s manual mentioned you should have that part inspected and replaced with a better part
Boeing should be going. Their planes are toxic.
> It was taking off from Louisville and bound for Hawaii on Nov. 4 when a fire ignited on its left engine shortly after takeoff.
Is that what happened? A fire?
Anything to make more profit!!!! They didnt care I bet because the one loss only sets them back so much , screw peoples lives and anyone else just make that profit . . . When we going to learn Corporations dont care about people ?
Fine them a couple hundred million dollars.
“Take the number of vehicles in the field (A), multiply by the probable rate of failure (B), multiply by the average out-of-court settlement (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one,”
Lol.. The corps own the current govt. All they have to do is pay a tribute to TACO
Was it even a Boeing plane? I thought it was an MD-11 or something similar.
Edit: So according to the article, Boeing purchased McDonnell Douglas.
Nowadays I actually select flights based on the aircraft flown, even if it means a worse schedule or more expensive ticket.
I genuinely lost all trust in Boeing planes as a commuter.
Water is wet! More at six!
The executives at Boeing need to be in prison. HUNDREDS dead from Boeing crashes in the last decade due to problems caused by money grubbing cost cutting.
There are so many known issues in every plane and every engine in large jets like this. They have systems in place to routinely inspect and replace parts at very specific intervals. Boeing knows about a lot of flaws in a lot of things. Had anyone known this particular airplane had flaws in it to that extent that would cause that airplane to crash, they would not have hesitated to ground that plane.
i hope there’s a CSB video about this
Of course they knew
Ya, well, no one wanted to die so they kept their mouth shut, of course.
No shit. They build whatever measly fines will be lobbed at them after they kill hundreds of people into their bottom line.
this is what happens when you cut back on regulations and inspections – aka “we should trust the manufacturer to ‘do the right thing'”
Of course they did…
Man a whole lotta aviation design experts in here seem to suddenly know everything about aircraft design. Especially given this plane isn’t even a Boeing design….
And so did UPS.
Remember when companies had to compete, and provide good products or lose the contract?
Keep letting them get away with this, and it will continue. anyone surprised by this is a straight up idiot. and no, a few fines isn’t a punishment. like usual, the fines th3se companies face are a drop in the bucket relative to the money and time they’d have to spend fixing issues. but, the people in charge know all this so nothing will change.