Former British police officer has citizenship revoked on ‘national security’ grounds after moving to Russia
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15453499/British-police-officer-citizenship-national-security-Russia.html
Posted by StGuthlac2025
Former British police officer has citizenship revoked on ‘national security’ grounds after moving to Russia
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15453499/British-police-officer-citizenship-national-security-Russia.html
Posted by StGuthlac2025
30 Comments
I imagine that he is omitting a lot of the story. He’s a dedicated supporter of one of the most nationalist football clubs in all of Eastern Europe (and there is a lot of them), which is also the same club that Putin supports.
I would bet my life savings that he is fully Z, and very much a potential national security threat.
Without a doubt the doughnut made that call. It’s not as simple as him moving to Russia.
Wonder how long it’ll take putin to put him on the front line in Ukraine?…
I wasn’t keen on using citizenship revocation as an extradujicial punishment in the previous cases and I’m not keen on it now.
If this person has committed a crime let’s prosecute him
I think we’re the leading country in the world right now when it comes to stripping citizenship. It’s pretty worrying tbh.
Don’t let him come back to the UK either, he made his choice.
I really don’t want to give the heil clicks but does this guy have russian / another citizenship now?
In which case I don’t care, my problem is with leaving people stateless against international law rather than stripping citizenship in and of itself.
I note the article takes a long time to highlight his dual nationality.
He chose his new nation so….
To anyone concerned about this… believe me they had a good reason for revoking this traitor’s citizenship.
Yet more innocent people getting their Brit identity stolen like that schoolgirl. Britland is made awful by the sitting government of the day who decides the fate of innocents. Government policy is not and never is the will of the people of a land.
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It so funny how people have been normalised to accept the idea of stripping people of their citizenship … if government is at the point of stripping people of their citizenship shouldn’t it also mean they’ve have more that enough evidence of a crime … then in that case they should be requesting the person to be sent back to face their crime
He’s British by birth and they can revoke citizenship like that?!
Woah scary!
I’m more comfortable with this guy being stripped of his citizenship than I am Shamima Begum.
He has another citizenship. She was made stateless by the then Home Secretary.
I wonder how much of his story he’s chosen not to tell..?
Anyone who wants to move to that authoritarian shithole is no brit in my eyes
Echoing some of the other commenters here:
If there was reason to believe this person posed a security risk, then he should have been allowed to come to the UK as is his right as a British citizen, surveilled if necessary to build a case, and then upon the accumulation of sufficient evidence, arrested and charged with espionage, treason or whatever crime he committed, with the ordinary due process afforded to every other criminal. He then should have been tried, likely convicted and sent to British prison.
Alternatively the security services could have done their spooky things, interrogated him and handed him over to the CPS to charge.
Stripping a natural born citizen of their citizenship is never appropriate. It’s especially insane because it seems like this person has had no opportunity for due process at all.
The guy may be a traitor but he’s a British traitor and he should face justice or live as a fugitive if he’s committed a crime.
getting what he deserves.
I love how so many of the comments on that mail link are from those who were perfectly happy for begum to be stripped of her citizenship but are now sobbing when its a white man who’s paid by the russians getting the same treatment.
I don’t understand why they can’t try him in absentia, if that’s a thing…? And if represented, he can be convicted and then you can strip the citizenship, but allow him like 20 years to appeal until then it’s done or something? But if he comes back he serves time in jail until he either is released or has won on appeal…?!
There’s clearly something more going on with this for sure.
This doesn’t just happen to a UK national arbitrarily without something the intelligence services picking up.
“‘I arrived and the people who detained me didn’t identify themselves. I was questioned for four years under the Terrorism Act.”
I think you mean four hours, Mark. There’s some holes in his story here.
It’s wild how this gets your citizenship revoked straight away, but when the prospect of revoking the citizenship of that Egyptian guy is raised, it’s met with moral hand wringing by the establishment.
So because he has Russian citizenship I care way less
I don’t like the idea of removing citizenship from people, but I also don’t really like the idea of dual citizenship. I think you should have to declare for a nation, or more importantly one nation should have to declare for you. They say “yes we accept this person is our responsibility”. Too many times with dual citizenships both nations have ignored issues and said “it’s the other nations problem”
Maybe I’m missing something big, I’m happy to be wrong. Just my two cents
Actually if you look on YouTube you might come across a couple of British vloggers who are clearly Putin’s ‘useful idiots’. They go on about how nice living in Russia is, the low cost of living etc. No doubt that in addition to their YouTube income they’re also getting bungs from the state…
I’m sure he won’t come to sorely regret that decision to move in time.
No sympathy for him.
As someone who has changed his citizenship because I wanted to have the same rights of of the people in the country that I live in, this trend by the UK is actually quite worrying. Citizenship should give you the primary rights to live in that country.
In my case I was obliged to revoke my British citizenship to take on the new one, so I do not have dual citizenship. When I was processing my revocation, there was a note to say that if I wanted to reinstate it, it would be possible – with a link and a substantial fee involved. Starting with getting a copy of my birth certificate.
The main obligation by international law on citizenship is for countries not to leave people stateless. However in the case of Shamima Begum this is exactly what has happened.
Of course the British government point out that because of her heritage she is “entitled” to Bangladeshi citizenship by Bangladeshi law, and have used this to remove her British citizenship. Bangladesh don’t want to take her on because she is a terrorist, and she would face the death penalty if she ever went there. I don’t want to excuse anything she has done, but shit, she should be Britain’s problem not Bangladesh’s.
Back to my first and second paragraph and why I think this is worrying, is if governments around the world start to do this as a “punishment” for anti-patriotism it could end up as a tit-for-tat situation where other countries start doing the ***same*** because *”the UK are doing it”*. The importance of being a citizen starts to disappear quite quickly.
i.e.
> there was a note to say that if I wanted to reinstate it this might be possible – with a link and a substantial fee involved.
*This person can get back their original citizenship, so there isn’t a problem removing their citizenship….*
The guy in the article isn’t going to become stateless, so his situation is different to mine, however I would hate to see this escalate and become common practice or even tit-for-tat between countries.
Domestic violence is decriminalised in Russia . Why would someone want to move there ?
The Home Office doesn’t just revoke citizenship for the sake of it. Something is missing from the story .
I get the feeling this guy is all in with the “special military operation” and could potentially be used as a “useful idiot” by Russian intelligence if he ever returned to the uk
Russia is a great enemy to have for the politicians, can be used to justify all sorts of censorship and removal of our basic rights
What is the threat level comparison between Russian apologists and radical Islamic apologists?
These kind of things don’t happen just because you live in Russia. There’s obviously something else going on with him for this to happen.