Well if it’s not used when the US uses trade barriers to annex a country, when would it be?
IL1keBigButts on
To any American:
Realise that your president cannot bully us into submission. Yes you are the biggest military power in the world, but also realise the times of fun and games are over. You elected a psychopath who is destroying the world order and this influences our daily lives in a very negative way. To us the US became an existential threat, and has to be dealt with accordingly.
We Europeans will never forgive the cowardous US citizens for allowing this madman to try to destroy our safety and economy. Can you military beat us and bully us, yes. But history will treat you as the honourless traitors you as a country have become.
We will remember your apathy and inaction. Now is the time to rise up.
potatoears on
do it. our country needs consequences.
Clear_Anything1232 on
Good. At least someone is pushing for stringent measures
I was expecting another strongly worded statement from Kaja Kallas which has become the standard joke these days
atnight_owl on
Trump understands two types of language:
1. ass-kissing and flattery, but it doesn’t work because you lose his respect and dig your own grave (see Machado’s Nobel medal circus);
2. harsh language supported by real power and the EU has real economic power – he won’t like it at first, but he will develop a certain respect that can later become a source of narcissistic gratification for him. Putin did this very well. Also Xi’s China with “we don’t care”.
So, do it.
ctrlzkids on
From the article:
The EU’s anti-coercion instrument is the bloc’s most powerful retaliatory tool. While it has never been used, the ACI was designed primarily as a deterrent, and if needed, to respond to deliberate coercive actions from third countries that use trade measures as a means to pressure the policy choices of the EU or its members.
Those measures could include tariffs, new taxes on tech companies or targeted curbs on investments in the EU. They could also involve limiting access to certain parts of the EU market or restricting firms from bidding for public contracts in Europe.
Constant-Tea3148 on
We’ve tried to appease him for a year now, which always seems to somewhat help in the short term, but long term we’ve gotten nothing in return but additional threats and insults.
Appeasement is not working, it only seems to worsen things. The orange Mussolini clearly only respects displays of power, and this may well be the only option, but I am still skeptical we’ll actually see it being used.
gamesbrainiac on
Use the f****ing bazooka already. Stop threatening to use it.
Lenske97 on
Good job Kamala didn’t get in office she would’ve caused a lot of problems
Antagonist007 on
Just introduce the digital service tax already and watch those u.s. tech companies having to pay their fair share of taxes to the countries they make money in.
Ok-Effective7280 on
Sell off all American shares, try & reduce the power of Wall Street & the us government will slow right down. They are broke under heavy debt. Why do you think trump wants oil & greenlands mineral resources. #boycottamerica
marmaladecorgi on
An EU-wide ban on X might just work. Europe (and the world) ought to take a break from all the bullshit.
Cynical_Classicist on
We need to stand up to the US.
ThatchedRoofCottage on
As an American, please do. He doesn’t listen to his people, maybe hell listen to this.
G_UK on
I hope the UK has the balls to join the EU in this.
bigorangemachine on
Push the digital tax through!
ProductGuy48 on
Nationalise all assets of American tech companies in Europe including Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, etc.
pablocael on
Well lets see, tariffs for coercing europe to support the (illegal) invasion of a other sovereign country…. Seems pretty applicable to me.
Majestic-State4304 on
Yes, be angry Europe. But don’t be lazy in your anger.
Warning: Canada almost elected a pro Trump conservative as our PM because the current one was losing favour (Trudeau) after indicating he was over confident and going for a fourth term. We narrowly avoided to elect a pro Trump conservative PM when Trudeau cracked under pressure and finally stepped down.
Every country is always just a few high pressure votes away from cracking under its own far right extremist loud mouths (funded by billionaires to increase tax burdens on the middle class and poor, and quadruple theirs and their friends profits). They only need a few more votes in the right places. It just takes a deeply motivated billionaire like Elon Musk to drop a few hundred million to overwhelm your media and brainwash a small subsection of the poor, just like they did in the States.
No one is immune from this. Elbows up. EVERYONE must be vocal and EDUCATE if you want to keep your freedoms and your country. It’s the only way we can compete against billionaires buying elections.
Ansteph09 on
I am convinced that tool was conceived to be aimed at China one day. I can’t help but laugh that the first to face it will be the USA
gesocks on
He is 100% right.
If not using them now they can directly announce that everybody can just do as he wants with us
Harbinger2001 on
Well I’m glad China, India, Brazil and Canada aren’t alone in this trade war any longer. It was very disappointing to see the EU think they could get a deal and wait Trump out.
Leather-Map-8138 on
This comes across as a reasonable response. Trump won’t be able to claim “oh those terrible people threw big tariffs on American products” when it’s framed as purely a response to America throwing big tariffs on European products.
Due-Tangerine-4119 on
Wow, macron is really going for him, good on him! The French don’t mess around!
Visible_Goose_4116 on
Time to restrict ASML exports to the US. Let intel and and pressure the baffoon
Jeffuk88 on
Big businesses WANT access to our markets…. hit them where it hurts. Yes it hurts everyone but Trump has shown time and again that he wont honour any agreements anyway
theworldanvil on
It pains me to say it for all the wrong cultural reasons, but the French are among the few showing some spine in Europe right now.
No-Common-1801 on
Racism in America now an international problem.
AreU_NotEntertained on
Look guys, Trump is playing 15D chess. He knows we’re a waning empire and just decided to speedrun the fall to break the US up into corporate fiefdoms. Muskland and Thieltopia coming soon to a state near you.
vb90 on
Sell..their…fucking…bonds.
Watch how little Donnie cools off when Wall-Streets wakes up in a mayhem.
Competitive-Yak-3785 on
I can’t find a news article that explains what the tool actually is. Can anyone explain? What is involved once the tool is in use?
TruFrag on
Do this at the national/EU level:
Decouple from social media and web services. No re-coupling until Him and his administration are removed from power. At 90 days, Make the decouple permanent and start replacing all US based services with native EU services.
That gives the tech giants 90 days to solve the problem they created or lose the EU market forever.
This may be an unpopular opinion:
Americans are to spread out (3000 miles from anywhere that matters for example) and have spent the last 30 years getting beaten into submission. Not only can you not rely on us to get this problem solved, We may actually need you to solve it for us. You may have more power to do something then we do.
Moist-muff on
Where are those darn Epstein files
KriptiKFate_Cosplay on
Voting against the interests of your constituency needs to carry a punishment of jail time. Politicians *only* exist to represent the people.
Maleficent_Trick_502 on
Th EU should ban Google, Facebook, X, and creat their own. It would crater US tech stocks.
ArmonRaziel on
“If a man knows, and knows that he knows, he will lead a happy life. If a man does not know, and knows that does not know, he may lead a tolerable life. But if a man does not know, and does not know that he does not know, he will lead miserable life.” -1866 September 8, Newcastle Guardian, A Comical Column, Quote Page 6, Column 3, Northumberland, England. (British Newspaper Archive)
On Nov. 5th 2024 Over 1/2 of America was foolish enough to reelect a fool to lead them. Now, we will live in misery.
RedditGotSoulDoubt on
Europe needs to get their shit together so they’re not dependent on the U.S. Develop their own tech. Ignore US patents and hit Amazon, Meta, and Google in the wallet where they’ll feel it.
TheIronMatron on
Yes, the country that is murdering its citizens, and kidnapping and rendering citizens to random countries, is very much ready to be reasonable and lawful with NATO.
whalemango on
Credit where credit’s due – Putin really is a mastermind. Sure, he fucked up underestimating Ukraine, but the way he was able to manipulate Americans to vote for Trump (twice!) and then manipulate Trump to basically dissolve NATO through this obvious bullshit is just incredible. Ten years ago, if you’d told me all of this would be happening, I never would have believed it.
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At last !
sell US bonds
Well if it’s not used when the US uses trade barriers to annex a country, when would it be?
To any American:
Realise that your president cannot bully us into submission. Yes you are the biggest military power in the world, but also realise the times of fun and games are over. You elected a psychopath who is destroying the world order and this influences our daily lives in a very negative way. To us the US became an existential threat, and has to be dealt with accordingly.
We Europeans will never forgive the cowardous US citizens for allowing this madman to try to destroy our safety and economy. Can you military beat us and bully us, yes. But history will treat you as the honourless traitors you as a country have become.
We will remember your apathy and inaction. Now is the time to rise up.
do it. our country needs consequences.
Good. At least someone is pushing for stringent measures
I was expecting another strongly worded statement from Kaja Kallas which has become the standard joke these days
Trump understands two types of language:
1. ass-kissing and flattery, but it doesn’t work because you lose his respect and dig your own grave (see Machado’s Nobel medal circus);
2. harsh language supported by real power and the EU has real economic power – he won’t like it at first, but he will develop a certain respect that can later become a source of narcissistic gratification for him. Putin did this very well. Also Xi’s China with “we don’t care”.
So, do it.
From the article:
The EU’s anti-coercion instrument is the bloc’s most powerful retaliatory tool. While it has never been used, the ACI was designed primarily as a deterrent, and if needed, to respond to deliberate coercive actions from third countries that use trade measures as a means to pressure the policy choices of the EU or its members.
Those measures could include tariffs, new taxes on tech companies or targeted curbs on investments in the EU. They could also involve limiting access to certain parts of the EU market or restricting firms from bidding for public contracts in Europe.
We’ve tried to appease him for a year now, which always seems to somewhat help in the short term, but long term we’ve gotten nothing in return but additional threats and insults.
Appeasement is not working, it only seems to worsen things. The orange Mussolini clearly only respects displays of power, and this may well be the only option, but I am still skeptical we’ll actually see it being used.
Use the f****ing bazooka already. Stop threatening to use it.
Good job Kamala didn’t get in office she would’ve caused a lot of problems
Just introduce the digital service tax already and watch those u.s. tech companies having to pay their fair share of taxes to the countries they make money in.
Sell off all American shares, try & reduce the power of Wall Street & the us government will slow right down. They are broke under heavy debt. Why do you think trump wants oil & greenlands mineral resources. #boycottamerica
An EU-wide ban on X might just work. Europe (and the world) ought to take a break from all the bullshit.
We need to stand up to the US.
As an American, please do. He doesn’t listen to his people, maybe hell listen to this.
I hope the UK has the balls to join the EU in this.
Push the digital tax through!
Nationalise all assets of American tech companies in Europe including Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, etc.
Well lets see, tariffs for coercing europe to support the (illegal) invasion of a other sovereign country…. Seems pretty applicable to me.
Yes, be angry Europe. But don’t be lazy in your anger.
Warning: Canada almost elected a pro Trump conservative as our PM because the current one was losing favour (Trudeau) after indicating he was over confident and going for a fourth term. We narrowly avoided to elect a pro Trump conservative PM when Trudeau cracked under pressure and finally stepped down.
Every country is always just a few high pressure votes away from cracking under its own far right extremist loud mouths (funded by billionaires to increase tax burdens on the middle class and poor, and quadruple theirs and their friends profits). They only need a few more votes in the right places. It just takes a deeply motivated billionaire like Elon Musk to drop a few hundred million to overwhelm your media and brainwash a small subsection of the poor, just like they did in the States.
No one is immune from this. Elbows up. EVERYONE must be vocal and EDUCATE if you want to keep your freedoms and your country. It’s the only way we can compete against billionaires buying elections.
I am convinced that tool was conceived to be aimed at China one day. I can’t help but laugh that the first to face it will be the USA
He is 100% right.
If not using them now they can directly announce that everybody can just do as he wants with us
Well I’m glad China, India, Brazil and Canada aren’t alone in this trade war any longer. It was very disappointing to see the EU think they could get a deal and wait Trump out.
This comes across as a reasonable response. Trump won’t be able to claim “oh those terrible people threw big tariffs on American products” when it’s framed as purely a response to America throwing big tariffs on European products.
Wow, macron is really going for him, good on him! The French don’t mess around!
Time to restrict ASML exports to the US. Let intel and and pressure the baffoon
Big businesses WANT access to our markets…. hit them where it hurts. Yes it hurts everyone but Trump has shown time and again that he wont honour any agreements anyway
It pains me to say it for all the wrong cultural reasons, but the French are among the few showing some spine in Europe right now.
Racism in America now an international problem.
Look guys, Trump is playing 15D chess. He knows we’re a waning empire and just decided to speedrun the fall to break the US up into corporate fiefdoms. Muskland and Thieltopia coming soon to a state near you.
Sell..their…fucking…bonds.
Watch how little Donnie cools off when Wall-Streets wakes up in a mayhem.
I can’t find a news article that explains what the tool actually is. Can anyone explain? What is involved once the tool is in use?
Do this at the national/EU level:
Decouple from social media and web services. No re-coupling until Him and his administration are removed from power. At 90 days, Make the decouple permanent and start replacing all US based services with native EU services.
That gives the tech giants 90 days to solve the problem they created or lose the EU market forever.
This may be an unpopular opinion:
Americans are to spread out (3000 miles from anywhere that matters for example) and have spent the last 30 years getting beaten into submission. Not only can you not rely on us to get this problem solved, We may actually need you to solve it for us. You may have more power to do something then we do.
Where are those darn Epstein files
Voting against the interests of your constituency needs to carry a punishment of jail time. Politicians *only* exist to represent the people.
Th EU should ban Google, Facebook, X, and creat their own. It would crater US tech stocks.
“If a man knows, and knows that he knows, he will lead a happy life. If a man does not know, and knows that does not know, he may lead a tolerable life. But if a man does not know, and does not know that he does not know, he will lead miserable life.” -1866 September 8, Newcastle Guardian, A Comical Column, Quote Page 6, Column 3, Northumberland, England. (British Newspaper Archive)
On Nov. 5th 2024 Over 1/2 of America was foolish enough to reelect a fool to lead them. Now, we will live in misery.
Europe needs to get their shit together so they’re not dependent on the U.S. Develop their own tech. Ignore US patents and hit Amazon, Meta, and Google in the wallet where they’ll feel it.
Yes, the country that is murdering its citizens, and kidnapping and rendering citizens to random countries, is very much ready to be reasonable and lawful with NATO.
Credit where credit’s due – Putin really is a mastermind. Sure, he fucked up underestimating Ukraine, but the way he was able to manipulate Americans to vote for Trump (twice!) and then manipulate Trump to basically dissolve NATO through this obvious bullshit is just incredible. Ten years ago, if you’d told me all of this would be happening, I never would have believed it.