Cool. Any Republicans and admin staff? No? Great, we’re still fucked. Absolutely brilliant.
Impeach. Remove. Right now.
Wine_Women_Song on
I’d also accept Impeach & Remove
Imaginary-Ad-7919 on
Does not matter this is already a family business, he would put is son in charge and get away with it, he can do anything right.
TheJan1tor on
25th is initiated by the President, or VP, and requires support from the majority of the ***Cabinet***.
This isn’t happening.
city_dwellerZ on
The Republicans and especially the sycophants in the cabinet will NEVER invoke it. He could be slouching and drooling and have his eyes closed during meetings and they would ignore it… they already do.
Cultural_Climate_538 on
Unfortunately this means absolutely zero. 99% of republicans are completely cucked to this deranged president and will bend over backwards to protect him because they’re so scared of losing votes from his MAGA cult.
sangreal06 on
You need more votes in congress to forcibly remove a President through the 25th amendment (2/3 in both houses) than you do for impeachment (majority in house, 2/3 in Senate). Not to mention needing his own admin to stab him in the back. Talk of the 25th amendment is stupid. He should be impeached
Romano16 on
I’m tired of seeing these articles. Either do it or stfu.
Brief_Amicus_Curiae on
Yea, well I really am skeptical that Vance, the cabinet, Senate Pro Tempore Chuck Grassley and Speaker Mike Johnson will do that.
>Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
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> Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic][note 2][7] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
Galliagamer on
Stop, it won’t happen; Trump has filled the Cabinet with bootlickers who will never sign off on the 25th even if he sat naked on the floor in front of them eating his own boogers.
Impeachment is the appropriate course of action.
EricThePerplexed on
Crazy how our business leaders are quiet about this too.
If we go to war with Europe to invade Greenland, the economy will be a steaming pile of rubble from severed trade and absolutely justified sanctions. None of that would be good for stocks.
Even amoral pricks should be panicking. But they probably don’t believe this is actually happening.
vamos-XI on
Misleading headline, no one has called for anything. Some democrats posted on X, again, after this deranged idiot did something absolutely insane.
We’ll be here next week with democrats “slamming” drump or “decrying” drump, but none of them will actually lift a finger to do anything.
The most anyone in the opposition party does is post on social media. That does nothing to curb the destruction of our country.
DustinnDodgee on
Good, get this power hungry egomaniac out of office. He’s done nothing for actual Americans. Even on the conservative sub, most of them are very against all this Greenland bullshit. There’s got to be republicans in office who disagree with this nonsense, but in fear of losing their job, they don’t speak out.
illtakeachinchilla on
“Call for”, “threaten”, “warn”… fucking do it already for fuck’s sake.
No_Caramel_1782 on
The GOP isn’t going to 25th Amendment or impeach and convict their own guy. None of this matters.
Make sure you are registered to vote in the midterms and make sure your friends and neighbors are too.
jared__ on
lol Trump learned his lesson from the first term. he has surrounded himself by absolute loyalists. there’s a better chance of trump making out with Greta Thunberg than his cabinet invoking the 25th
THSSFC on
The fact that the GOP has tolerated this imbecile for this long, despite his outrageous, unlawful and destructive actions is a damning stain on their legacy.
They are now lumped historically with the Vichy French or the Quisling Norwegians.
Absolute abandonment of any principal or moral authority.
Fuck the GOP.
snootfull on
Another useless display of impotence. Invoking the 25th requires a) initiation by the VP, b) a majority of the cabinet, and c) ultimate confirmation by BOTH the House and Senate with a SUPERMAJORITy in both houses. So it ain’t happening in this lifetime with these feckless lick-spittles in Congress. It’s actually much easier to impeach as it requires only a simple majority in the House.
ammbo on
Oh ffs… The 25th requires 2/3rds of both houses to take effect and is actually HARDER than impeachment. Basically, the VP and more than half the cabinet have to write a letter to Congress that POTUS is not capable of performing his duties. Then POTUS can then write a letter back saying, “am too!” Then the VP and cabinet write another letter saying, “Are not!” at which point both houses of congress have to convene within 48 hours and within the next 21 days determine via a 2/3rds vote of BOTH houses that POTUS actually cannot do it.
It is certain that trump will write a letter saying he totally can perform his duties and it is much less certain that 2/3rds of BOTH houses will vote to kick him out. At least impeachment requires 2/3rds of only one chamber (the senate) and a simple majority of the other.
It is bananas to keep talking about the 25th as though it is a shortcut to removal. It is not, it is intended to remove a president who is so incapacitated that they cannot write a simple letter to Congress.
I don’t think it’s enough. Invoking the 25th, and even impeaching the man, allows the regime to remain in place as Vance would assume the throne. Everything would remain the same, if not getting worse. I can guarantee that Vance would be completely bullied by Homan and that ghoul Miller, so ICE would likely ramp up their brutal tactics, the DOJ & FBI would become actual weapons of the state instead of just in name only.
You cannot simply cut the head off this presidency. The entire structure and every person that enabled it must be brought to justice.
ComprehensiveTour278 on
Trump understood that the twenty fifth amendment could be turned against him in a second term, so he stacked his cabinet with absolute loyalists. There is no realistic path for the twenty fifth to be invoked. At this point the only outcomes are impeachment, death, or a full military coup.
intelligentx5 on
Just fucking do it maybe?
StrengthDazzling8922 on
Ridiculous. The people required to invoke 25th are complicit in everything Trump does.
AFlaccoSeagulls on
No matter what the Democrats call for you, you need Republicans to also support that, which they don’t, because they are ALL complicit in this.
THEY have the power to stop this at any moment, and are choosing not to.
otherwise_data on
impeach, remove, incarcerate.
Micojageo on
I can’t wait for absolutely nothing to happen, again!
the_OG_fett on
Impeachment is easier than the 25th. There’s at least a process. Removing a president via the 25th has never been done and there’s no roadmap to follow. The sycophants he has in his cabinet aren’t the 2016 crew and are loyal AF.
Performative BS. Calling to Invoke does nothing but create a press release.
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Cool. Any Republicans and admin staff? No? Great, we’re still fucked. Absolutely brilliant.
Impeach. Remove. Right now.
I’d also accept Impeach & Remove
Does not matter this is already a family business, he would put is son in charge and get away with it, he can do anything right.
25th is initiated by the President, or VP, and requires support from the majority of the ***Cabinet***.
This isn’t happening.
The Republicans and especially the sycophants in the cabinet will NEVER invoke it. He could be slouching and drooling and have his eyes closed during meetings and they would ignore it… they already do.
Unfortunately this means absolutely zero. 99% of republicans are completely cucked to this deranged president and will bend over backwards to protect him because they’re so scared of losing votes from his MAGA cult.
You need more votes in congress to forcibly remove a President through the 25th amendment (2/3 in both houses) than you do for impeachment (majority in house, 2/3 in Senate). Not to mention needing his own admin to stab him in the back. Talk of the 25th amendment is stupid. He should be impeached
I’m tired of seeing these articles. Either do it or stfu.
Yea, well I really am skeptical that Vance, the cabinet, Senate Pro Tempore Chuck Grassley and Speaker Mike Johnson will do that.
>Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
>
> Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic][note 2][7] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
Stop, it won’t happen; Trump has filled the Cabinet with bootlickers who will never sign off on the 25th even if he sat naked on the floor in front of them eating his own boogers.
Impeachment is the appropriate course of action.
Crazy how our business leaders are quiet about this too.
If we go to war with Europe to invade Greenland, the economy will be a steaming pile of rubble from severed trade and absolutely justified sanctions. None of that would be good for stocks.
Even amoral pricks should be panicking. But they probably don’t believe this is actually happening.
Misleading headline, no one has called for anything. Some democrats posted on X, again, after this deranged idiot did something absolutely insane.
We’ll be here next week with democrats “slamming” drump or “decrying” drump, but none of them will actually lift a finger to do anything.
The most anyone in the opposition party does is post on social media. That does nothing to curb the destruction of our country.
Good, get this power hungry egomaniac out of office. He’s done nothing for actual Americans. Even on the conservative sub, most of them are very against all this Greenland bullshit. There’s got to be republicans in office who disagree with this nonsense, but in fear of losing their job, they don’t speak out.
“Call for”, “threaten”, “warn”… fucking do it already for fuck’s sake.
The GOP isn’t going to 25th Amendment or impeach and convict their own guy. None of this matters.
Make sure you are registered to vote in the midterms and make sure your friends and neighbors are too.
lol Trump learned his lesson from the first term. he has surrounded himself by absolute loyalists. there’s a better chance of trump making out with Greta Thunberg than his cabinet invoking the 25th
The fact that the GOP has tolerated this imbecile for this long, despite his outrageous, unlawful and destructive actions is a damning stain on their legacy.
They are now lumped historically with the Vichy French or the Quisling Norwegians.
Absolute abandonment of any principal or moral authority.
Fuck the GOP.
Another useless display of impotence. Invoking the 25th requires a) initiation by the VP, b) a majority of the cabinet, and c) ultimate confirmation by BOTH the House and Senate with a SUPERMAJORITy in both houses. So it ain’t happening in this lifetime with these feckless lick-spittles in Congress. It’s actually much easier to impeach as it requires only a simple majority in the House.
Oh ffs… The 25th requires 2/3rds of both houses to take effect and is actually HARDER than impeachment. Basically, the VP and more than half the cabinet have to write a letter to Congress that POTUS is not capable of performing his duties. Then POTUS can then write a letter back saying, “am too!” Then the VP and cabinet write another letter saying, “Are not!” at which point both houses of congress have to convene within 48 hours and within the next 21 days determine via a 2/3rds vote of BOTH houses that POTUS actually cannot do it.
It is certain that trump will write a letter saying he totally can perform his duties and it is much less certain that 2/3rds of BOTH houses will vote to kick him out. At least impeachment requires 2/3rds of only one chamber (the senate) and a simple majority of the other.
It is bananas to keep talking about the 25th as though it is a shortcut to removal. It is not, it is intended to remove a president who is so incapacitated that they cannot write a simple letter to Congress.
[Read the text of the 25th](https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-xxv) and stop spreading this BS.
I don’t think it’s enough. Invoking the 25th, and even impeaching the man, allows the regime to remain in place as Vance would assume the throne. Everything would remain the same, if not getting worse. I can guarantee that Vance would be completely bullied by Homan and that ghoul Miller, so ICE would likely ramp up their brutal tactics, the DOJ & FBI would become actual weapons of the state instead of just in name only.
You cannot simply cut the head off this presidency. The entire structure and every person that enabled it must be brought to justice.
Trump understood that the twenty fifth amendment could be turned against him in a second term, so he stacked his cabinet with absolute loyalists. There is no realistic path for the twenty fifth to be invoked. At this point the only outcomes are impeachment, death, or a full military coup.
Just fucking do it maybe?
Ridiculous. The people required to invoke 25th are complicit in everything Trump does.
No matter what the Democrats call for you, you need Republicans to also support that, which they don’t, because they are ALL complicit in this.
THEY have the power to stop this at any moment, and are choosing not to.
impeach, remove, incarcerate.
I can’t wait for absolutely nothing to happen, again!
Impeachment is easier than the 25th. There’s at least a process. Removing a president via the 25th has never been done and there’s no roadmap to follow. The sycophants he has in his cabinet aren’t the 2016 crew and are loyal AF.
Performative BS. Calling to Invoke does nothing but create a press release.