As president Zelensky noted, Ukraine’s one million soldiers can contribute greatly to the new European Army. Both in doctrine and in personnel; the most experienced troops in the world.
Ok-Somewhere9814 on
Given that Ukraine has the most capable military force in Europe (and possibly beyond) – it’s not a bad idea to pair up with them
Basaku-r on
Needs to happen, what more can even be said at this point. Europe needs to rely on its own power to defend itself. We can trade and be friendly with US, China and other parts of the world, but ain’t no one gonna protect us here but ourselves.
Forsaken-Medium-2436 on
I’m down for European army, but 3 million soldiers is overkill, US army is bit over 1 million and they station in bases all around the world, EU doesn’t need that much just to keep continent safe
Rhoderick on
The number is not the key part, at least in the immediacy. But if we are to stand up to foreign threats, to stop our only decision being which of the US, Russia, or China to be vassals to, then we need a standing, unified, powerful military force, and fast. A mere defense union is not sufficient to react to immediate threats of war.
ConinTheNinoC on
As a European i fully support this idea.
Total-Satisfaction-8 on
Probably a good idea yes
iguled on
The shift should be decoupling from the US in terms of things like sigint and other forms of battlefield support.
zork824 on
A united Europe is the only way our way of living and our shared beliefs can keep living on. I sincerely hope that what is happening right now in the world will only serve as fuel to abandon the Europe as we know it and embrace it fully, as a federation of states, with unified army and laws. We need to rely on ourselves, our market, our culture and our expertise.
Buildadoor on
Can Canada join our European brothers in this European army? We’ve fought alongside all our history.
ResourceWorker on
We have to start making more Europeans if that’s going to be sustainable. Current birth rates don’t cut it.
ProfessionalLion9039 on
European Army already has 1.6M soldiers and another 4M reservists, this is more than enough for 450M civilians. The problem is not size, its organisation.
petrolhead18 on
No sovereign country is going to hand over command of their troops, it’s a nice dream but completely unrealistic.
RootBinder on
If they allow foreign volunteers you can count me in
PitMaki on
So who’s here that is all puffing up their chests will raise their hands and sign up for duty?
Relative-Cold290 on
We already have something like 1,5 millions of soldiers with the 27.
We should be able to have 3 millions or a little more if we start to handle ourself.
We should definitively do something like that.
SaraHHHBK on
Which country is gonna give up the sovereignty of their military for it?
Cynical_Doggie on
Imagine having a military and not using it offensively or defensively for geopolitical goals.
Silly_AsH on
Good luck finding 3 million young europeans willing to take up arms in defense of Europe.
I really hope I’m wrong.
TareasS on
Bruh that is Operation Barbarossa level size lmao.
skeeeper on
Under whose leadership?
Euklidis on
Europe is not the US.
The average – young – European has no real motivation to join and organizing a European army is gonna be pure hell.
Retuercevigas on
He’s wiped out his entire population and now he wants to wipe out more people? Let him go steal wherever they’ll let him.
Roadrunner571 on
The European NATO countries west of the iron curtain had about 2.5m active soldiers at the high of the cold war.
So it should be doable to get to 3m with today’s EU countries.
manu144x on
There is an absolute need for something.
And we need to cut off all US military technology, it should all be european.
It’s not that hard, and with Ukraine’s experience and know how, we would definitely easily stand up to russia.
Happy_Ad9570 on
Yall go bankrupt 🤣🤣
some-kind-of-no-name on
Lol. They’ve never done it for 4 years, but this time they totally will.
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As president Zelensky noted, Ukraine’s one million soldiers can contribute greatly to the new European Army. Both in doctrine and in personnel; the most experienced troops in the world.
Given that Ukraine has the most capable military force in Europe (and possibly beyond) – it’s not a bad idea to pair up with them
Needs to happen, what more can even be said at this point. Europe needs to rely on its own power to defend itself. We can trade and be friendly with US, China and other parts of the world, but ain’t no one gonna protect us here but ourselves.
I’m down for European army, but 3 million soldiers is overkill, US army is bit over 1 million and they station in bases all around the world, EU doesn’t need that much just to keep continent safe
The number is not the key part, at least in the immediacy. But if we are to stand up to foreign threats, to stop our only decision being which of the US, Russia, or China to be vassals to, then we need a standing, unified, powerful military force, and fast. A mere defense union is not sufficient to react to immediate threats of war.
As a European i fully support this idea.
Probably a good idea yes
The shift should be decoupling from the US in terms of things like sigint and other forms of battlefield support.
A united Europe is the only way our way of living and our shared beliefs can keep living on. I sincerely hope that what is happening right now in the world will only serve as fuel to abandon the Europe as we know it and embrace it fully, as a federation of states, with unified army and laws. We need to rely on ourselves, our market, our culture and our expertise.
Can Canada join our European brothers in this European army? We’ve fought alongside all our history.
We have to start making more Europeans if that’s going to be sustainable. Current birth rates don’t cut it.
European Army already has 1.6M soldiers and another 4M reservists, this is more than enough for 450M civilians. The problem is not size, its organisation.
No sovereign country is going to hand over command of their troops, it’s a nice dream but completely unrealistic.
If they allow foreign volunteers you can count me in
So who’s here that is all puffing up their chests will raise their hands and sign up for duty?
We already have something like 1,5 millions of soldiers with the 27.
We should be able to have 3 millions or a little more if we start to handle ourself.
We should definitively do something like that.
Which country is gonna give up the sovereignty of their military for it?
Imagine having a military and not using it offensively or defensively for geopolitical goals.
Good luck finding 3 million young europeans willing to take up arms in defense of Europe.
I really hope I’m wrong.
Bruh that is Operation Barbarossa level size lmao.
Under whose leadership?
Europe is not the US.
The average – young – European has no real motivation to join and organizing a European army is gonna be pure hell.
He’s wiped out his entire population and now he wants to wipe out more people? Let him go steal wherever they’ll let him.
The European NATO countries west of the iron curtain had about 2.5m active soldiers at the high of the cold war.
So it should be doable to get to 3m with today’s EU countries.
There is an absolute need for something.
And we need to cut off all US military technology, it should all be european.
It’s not that hard, and with Ukraine’s experience and know how, we would definitely easily stand up to russia.
Yall go bankrupt 🤣🤣
Lol. They’ve never done it for 4 years, but this time they totally will.