If something has been stolen from you, make a legal claim, otherwise stfu with your arrogant idiot objections around AI and its uses, it’s here to stay and there’s nothing you can do to stop it, power has been handed to the people and they will create amazing things.
TheArtfulFox on
I hate AI, but I hate insufferable Hollywood actors more.
ottwebdev on
Generative AI companies have stolen from everyone. Its the biggest data heist so far
marlinspike on
Wait till someone tells them that the studios that own their work are the ones cutting deals with AI Labs.. may as well cash in when there’s something to trade rather than when AI actors and effects can lower costs and allow secondary actors to be entirely generated in the mid-term. I see a dramatic boost to storytelling, but AI Luddites will tell you differently.
Either way, good to know ticket prices may be lower when you don’t pay $250M for a cast and tell many more stories than superhero spinoffs.
Callabrantus on
My mom sent me a link to a video the other day. “AI, but still funny” she says. It’s a video of a cat sleeping next to a rottweiler. The dog farts, the cat looks directly ah the camera and hisses, then starts beating the dogs ass with its paws. Not in the least bit funny.
And here’s why: anyone here old enough to remember the absolute cultural phenomenon that was Americas Funniest Home Videos? Millions of Americans sending in moments captured on video.
But there’s the key word. CAPTURED. They were filming, something unplanned occurred, bedlam ensued, and a perfectly imperfect moment of pure human chaos was captured. And now we had a way that we could all share in it.
I remember watching a documentary of the making of the show, and they had a segment where they aired a few of the reject videos. Why were they turned down? They had obviously staged some grand catastrophe and filmed it with the hope of gaining fleeting mainstream fame. And it was painfully obvious which ones were faked. There was no spontaneity. It just felt forced. They weren’t captured moments, they were constructs, and the end result reeked of it. More recently I’ve seen people try to fake internet videos of things like “jewellery store heist gone wrong”. They’re infuriatingly unfunny, and they’re pretty obvious to spot.
Now, everyone is trying to create “funny” with AI, and it is failing miserably. AI can only force moments to happen. It doesn’t capture that moment when our humanity blows up in our faces. It crafts it. And what it crafts will never be anywhere near as good.
I’m watching these companies that have pumped trillions of dollars into AI circle the drain, and I’m not mad at it.
cold-vein on
So maybe they should strike? Don’t make any hollywood movies as long as the studios are collaborating with AI firms, or using generative AI.
Oh wait, that would actually mean they’d lose money. Money is more important than art or values.
v1ceh on
I get their frustration but this will go nowhere. If they wanted to be effective they’d organize/join a workers protest against it and enjoy the “trickle up” effect if AI is eventually regulated.
Nobody is going to sympathize with a bunch of overpaid Hollywood actors being slightly less overpaid.
velvethead on
I was in the music industry when MP3s became a thing. Any time a musician would suggest that file sharing was stealing, they were lectured about not standing in the way of innovation. Gradually technology started stealing other professions, and now AI is about to steal the rest.
This is not to say I don’t empathize with these actors. I do, along with countless other creative types. My point is simply we created a culture of technology stealing other people’s business, and now it is too late to stop it.
mrbrandonbroken on
It only matters when it becomes an issue for them and their wallet.
Candid_Koala_3602 on
Wrong side of history. You can’t ever stop what’s coming, folks.
metadatame on
ice parades through Minneapolis, and you use your platform to complain about IP infractions.
ceiffhikare on
I think other than the Avengers actress that i could not match faces to names for any of these people. Im fine with AI taking over if it means more great stories get made into ok for background noise movies. These people are not due a living any more than the blue collar workers displaced from factory floors by welding arm robots. If a new economy is required then it needs to drag all of us into the future not just the previously privileged classes like actors/creative types
Particular_Ask_4540 on
lol oh noo not the gravy train!!
nadmaximus on
The ‘stealing’ part is really irrelevant. LLMs are a threat to actors, writers, artists, etc *without consuming their works* to bootstrap them. It’s out of the box. Complaining about the ‘theft’ is not relevant in the long term.
LurkerLevelOver9000 on
I agree with the statement but Hollywood needs to be honest with itself as well. Adapting a book into a feature film isn’t innovation either. It’s rare when Hollywood makes anything original anymore. I agree that AI doesn’t have the right to digitally manipulate images into films without the actor or actress’s permission just because it exists online.
awesomedan24 on
The test will be whether a large amount of people will be willing to pay for AI generated content. If its not profitable they won’t do it. And if we do start to pay for that shit, we only have ourselves to blame when it replaces real art.
ripndipp on
Funny how the rich make a big deal when it affects them, I have no sympathy
Dusty170 on
Who said it was innovation? That’s pretty dumb.
muyuu on
That depends on how it’s done!
Thoughts and prayers.
ubuntuNinja on
Oh no, stop, please don’t replace the poor Hollywood actors!! How shall society survive without hearing about the stupid things they say and do off screen 24/7?
KhazraShaman on
Cate Blanchett: *”The world has changed. I feel it in the water…”*
macinit1138 on
And nuclear weapons are bad for everyone, but are they still here? You can’t put the innovation genie back in the bottle.
ChemicalGreedy945 on
Hate to say it but I’m not having a pity party for celebs. They’ll be fine. It’s the common person with house full of kids and bills stacking up.
twilightsparkle69 on
Never thought I’d see millionaires go “Deyrr dkking ourr jerbss”
Maleficent_Care_7044 on
Has beens trying to stay relevant. Can’t stop the march of progress.
TontineDream on
Seems like Cate Blanchett is fine with naming one of her kids after child rapist Roman Polanski but not with AI cutting into her source of income.
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Nice to know we are all suffering.
If something has been stolen from you, make a legal claim, otherwise stfu with your arrogant idiot objections around AI and its uses, it’s here to stay and there’s nothing you can do to stop it, power has been handed to the people and they will create amazing things.
I hate AI, but I hate insufferable Hollywood actors more.
Generative AI companies have stolen from everyone. Its the biggest data heist so far
Wait till someone tells them that the studios that own their work are the ones cutting deals with AI Labs.. may as well cash in when there’s something to trade rather than when AI actors and effects can lower costs and allow secondary actors to be entirely generated in the mid-term. I see a dramatic boost to storytelling, but AI Luddites will tell you differently.
Either way, good to know ticket prices may be lower when you don’t pay $250M for a cast and tell many more stories than superhero spinoffs.
My mom sent me a link to a video the other day. “AI, but still funny” she says. It’s a video of a cat sleeping next to a rottweiler. The dog farts, the cat looks directly ah the camera and hisses, then starts beating the dogs ass with its paws. Not in the least bit funny.
And here’s why: anyone here old enough to remember the absolute cultural phenomenon that was Americas Funniest Home Videos? Millions of Americans sending in moments captured on video.
But there’s the key word. CAPTURED. They were filming, something unplanned occurred, bedlam ensued, and a perfectly imperfect moment of pure human chaos was captured. And now we had a way that we could all share in it.
I remember watching a documentary of the making of the show, and they had a segment where they aired a few of the reject videos. Why were they turned down? They had obviously staged some grand catastrophe and filmed it with the hope of gaining fleeting mainstream fame. And it was painfully obvious which ones were faked. There was no spontaneity. It just felt forced. They weren’t captured moments, they were constructs, and the end result reeked of it. More recently I’ve seen people try to fake internet videos of things like “jewellery store heist gone wrong”. They’re infuriatingly unfunny, and they’re pretty obvious to spot.
Now, everyone is trying to create “funny” with AI, and it is failing miserably. AI can only force moments to happen. It doesn’t capture that moment when our humanity blows up in our faces. It crafts it. And what it crafts will never be anywhere near as good.
I’m watching these companies that have pumped trillions of dollars into AI circle the drain, and I’m not mad at it.
So maybe they should strike? Don’t make any hollywood movies as long as the studios are collaborating with AI firms, or using generative AI.
Oh wait, that would actually mean they’d lose money. Money is more important than art or values.
I get their frustration but this will go nowhere. If they wanted to be effective they’d organize/join a workers protest against it and enjoy the “trickle up” effect if AI is eventually regulated.
Nobody is going to sympathize with a bunch of overpaid Hollywood actors being slightly less overpaid.
I was in the music industry when MP3s became a thing. Any time a musician would suggest that file sharing was stealing, they were lectured about not standing in the way of innovation. Gradually technology started stealing other professions, and now AI is about to steal the rest.
This is not to say I don’t empathize with these actors. I do, along with countless other creative types. My point is simply we created a culture of technology stealing other people’s business, and now it is too late to stop it.
It only matters when it becomes an issue for them and their wallet.
Wrong side of history. You can’t ever stop what’s coming, folks.
ice parades through Minneapolis, and you use your platform to complain about IP infractions.
I think other than the Avengers actress that i could not match faces to names for any of these people. Im fine with AI taking over if it means more great stories get made into ok for background noise movies. These people are not due a living any more than the blue collar workers displaced from factory floors by welding arm robots. If a new economy is required then it needs to drag all of us into the future not just the previously privileged classes like actors/creative types
lol oh noo not the gravy train!!
The ‘stealing’ part is really irrelevant. LLMs are a threat to actors, writers, artists, etc *without consuming their works* to bootstrap them. It’s out of the box. Complaining about the ‘theft’ is not relevant in the long term.
I agree with the statement but Hollywood needs to be honest with itself as well. Adapting a book into a feature film isn’t innovation either. It’s rare when Hollywood makes anything original anymore. I agree that AI doesn’t have the right to digitally manipulate images into films without the actor or actress’s permission just because it exists online.
The test will be whether a large amount of people will be willing to pay for AI generated content. If its not profitable they won’t do it. And if we do start to pay for that shit, we only have ourselves to blame when it replaces real art.
Funny how the rich make a big deal when it affects them, I have no sympathy
Who said it was innovation? That’s pretty dumb.
That depends on how it’s done!
Thoughts and prayers.
Oh no, stop, please don’t replace the poor Hollywood actors!! How shall society survive without hearing about the stupid things they say and do off screen 24/7?
Cate Blanchett: *”The world has changed. I feel it in the water…”*
And nuclear weapons are bad for everyone, but are they still here? You can’t put the innovation genie back in the bottle.
Hate to say it but I’m not having a pity party for celebs. They’ll be fine. It’s the common person with house full of kids and bills stacking up.
Never thought I’d see millionaires go “Deyrr dkking ourr jerbss”
Has beens trying to stay relevant. Can’t stop the march of progress.
Seems like Cate Blanchett is fine with naming one of her kids after child rapist Roman Polanski but not with AI cutting into her source of income.