Ah, this must be why they’re wearing the Meta glasses, so they can use AI to identify them. Maybe it’s time to delete Facebook.
AustinSpartan on
These high school drop outs are using the same stupid bully threats they used back then. So much small penis energy.
sdmichael on
This is ENTIRELY on Republicans and Conservatives.
Irish_Whiskey on
Before anyone asks how this is tech related without bothering to read the first sentence of the article:
>The Department of Homeland Security has ordered immigration officers to gather identifying information about anyone filming them and to “send that information to Intel who will do a ‘work-up’ on them,”
Major tech companies are cooperating with and complicit in fascism. They are fully aware that Trump will give them a blank check both in regulatory oversight and government funding, as long as they support his political agenda of punishing voters who do not support him and targeting critics with retribution. Amazon and Apple are funding and attending the “Melania” movie in a blatant bribe. Intel, Microsoft and Oracle are paying for his ballroom. And they’re all helping target innocent people by invading our privacy.
There has to be a reckoning for this.
MisterSanitation on
I’ll take my chances and get my blanket pardon later when a real president gets in power thanks.
Being on this list should be an automatic multi year tax break for your service.
ryandetous on
Whatever. When everyone is a terrorist, no one will be.
Is there an easy way to opt in to this? I want my name listed in an “enemies of this administration” database, please.
AlfaHotelWhiskey on
Seriously, with the latest round of agents sent to Minneapolis they are also going to start rounding up people who ”destroyed federal property” by damaging vehicles or throwing objects etc. it should have started today but I have not seen news to confirm it yet.
jgilbs on
This is why you should play their game and wear mask at protests
grumpy_autist on
If everyone is now a domestic terrorist being shot at, what’s the difference if someone really decides to act like one?
Skye_havingfun on
Good I hope they see this too fuck you ICE.
No-Commission8532 on
nothing about this is legal
MidsouthMystic on
ICE says a lot of things that are bullshit.
celtic1888 on
Guess who the bad guys are?
mvw2 on
If only they understood the words they were saying.
ACasualRead on
Why would I be in border control’s database when I’m neither at the border or in need of control?
Wistephens on
Let’s make sure that network is 300 million strong!
tecky1kanobe on
Cool. Am I on it? Can I be on it? Please, put me on that list.
GJCLINCH on
Imagine that, more projection
Frankenbeans_Monster on
“What’s that? You’re gonna put me on a list? What a coincidence, we’re putting you on a list too!”
fumar on
Remember when they called themselves domestic terrorists at CPAC?
PatchyWhiskers on
Every protest has creeps who crawl by slowly in cars, filming everyone’s faces. I don’t think they are doing it for their own amusement.
Poopbutt_Maximum on
Running around in masks, threatening people exercising their constitutional rights, snatching people off the street in unmarked vehicles, targeting job sites, beatings, rapes, extrajudicial killings, and they have the nerve to say immigrants are the problem smh.
SillyAlternative420 on
I made this post and shared it elsewhere, but I will share it here as well since this came up.
# FYI: Recording ICE and being added to a “Terrorist” database is a direct violation of 28 CFR Part 23. Know your rights.
*I am not a lawyer, only a former criminal intelligence analyst, if you are a lawyer please consider taking this up as a case, if you are not a lawyer consider pushing your representative to start a congressional inquiry/investigation. This is a massive violation of established laws and guidelines.*
I’ve been seeing a lot of reports/videos/questions about ICE (or other agencies) taking photos of people recording them and claiming they are being added to a “terrorist” or “criminal” database solely for filming.
If this is happening in a multijurisdictional intelligence system, it is a textbook violation of federal law – specifically 28 CFR Part 23.
Under this federal regulation, law enforcement agencies are strictly prohibited from adding you to an intelligence database unless they meet these criteria:
NO “Reasonable Suspicion”: Under § 23.20(a), they cannot put you in a system unless there is reasonable suspicion of definable criminal activity. Recording a federal agent in public is a constitutionally protected act, not a crime.
First Amendment Violations: § 23.20(b) explicitly forbids agencies from collecting or maintaining info on people based on their social or political activities unless it’s directly related to criminal conduct. Recording the government is a First Amendment right.
Harassment & “Chilling Effects”: § 23.20(l) states that intelligence projects cannot be used to harass or interfere with lawful political activities. Labeling a legal observer or a bystander a “terrorist” for holding a phone is a clear attempt to intimidate. (I believe this applies *even if they are lying*)
False Information: § 23.20(g) requires that all data be accurate and relevant. Entering a “Terrorist” label for someone who has committed no crime is a violation of data integrity.
If this happens to you, what you can do: Document everything: Get the officer’s name, badge number, and the exact time/location. (Clearly this is a problem with these ICE goons, however, record license plates as though will be tied to the agents operating them).
File a Privacy Act Request: You can file a FOIA/Privacy Act request with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to see if records exist on you.
Contact Advocacy Groups: If you think you’ve been “watchlisted” for filming, reach out to the ACLU or the National Lawyers Guild (NLG).
Don’t let them intimidate you into putting the camera down. The law is literally written to prevent this exact type of overreach.
TL;DR: 28 CFR Part 23 says they need “Reasonable Suspicion” of a crime to put you in an intelligence database. Filming them isn’t a crime; it’s a right.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, I am a former criminal intelligence analyst, my job involved maintaining one of these databases and the law is extremely strict on what can go in it, despite public perception.
The video of the ICE agent stating that woman going into a database as a terrorist is a blatant violation of this law and should trigger a congressional investigation.
Edit: I believe 28 CFR Part 23 only applies if data is entered into a DOJ-funded criminal intelligence system. We don’t know at this point if this is the case. But either way, it merits a congressional investigation.
born_in_the_90s on
Keep recording, they say this because they don’t want to be prosecuted in the near future.
Awe3 on
Keep filming!! Fuck them!
sgreenm22 on
Complete bullshit
WanderingKing on
At a certain point you have to recognize that they DO know they are the baddies
They LIKE being the baddies
They aren’t stupid, this is what THEY want
Due_Answer_4230 on
Just so we’re all on the same page:
* They have a database of ‘domestic terrorist suspects’ that they are enhancing with all sorts of data about you, if they scan your face or whatever they do
* Stephen Miller said on TV that impeding officers make you a domestic terrorist and a felon
* Felons cannot vote
* Felons cannot own guns.
* They want the voter roll data (not just minnesota – everywhere). This reveals what they are really after: vote manipulation.
* If you’re in the database, your vote can be contested. Maybe eliminated.
ICE is drawing out opposition – a hundred thousand Minnesotans altogether? more? – cataloguing them, and labelling them.
Elections are won by what, 10,000 votes?
What if you can just make 50,000 opposing votes disappear?
Cancelling an election is a big move that invites opposition. No precedent. But contesting the votes of suspected terrorists and felons? That’s easy. Who would oppose that? It’s already legal.
Mystewix on
No worries, you are on the government payroll. We have our own data base. We’ll make sure to use it. First chance we get.
elmatador12 on
I feel like the government sponsored murderers are closer to the definition of domestic terrorist. Call me crazy.
Next_Rip7462 on
so if they are going to dox, I guess they have zero moral standing when they get doxxed?
Seashell1500 on
Kinda like putting a potus seal in front of an election stealing pedophile insurrectionist and calling him president.
DPadres69 on
Doesn’t mean much to be called a “terrorist” by a group of Nazi wannabes.
Important-Radish-722 on
So, they admit they have a hit list. Now its premeditated murder.
Fiveofthem on
Being called a terrorist by a terrorist just doesn’t hit as hard.
TheMasterChiefa on
Fine, take the data… when the tide turns and you are held responsible for your actions, the evidence will help ensure your conviction.
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ICE are the terrorists
Ah, this must be why they’re wearing the Meta glasses, so they can use AI to identify them. Maybe it’s time to delete Facebook.
These high school drop outs are using the same stupid bully threats they used back then. So much small penis energy.
This is ENTIRELY on Republicans and Conservatives.
Before anyone asks how this is tech related without bothering to read the first sentence of the article:
>The Department of Homeland Security has ordered immigration officers to gather identifying information about anyone filming them and to “send that information to Intel who will do a ‘work-up’ on them,”
Major tech companies are cooperating with and complicit in fascism. They are fully aware that Trump will give them a blank check both in regulatory oversight and government funding, as long as they support his political agenda of punishing voters who do not support him and targeting critics with retribution. Amazon and Apple are funding and attending the “Melania” movie in a blatant bribe. Intel, Microsoft and Oracle are paying for his ballroom. And they’re all helping target innocent people by invading our privacy.
There has to be a reckoning for this.
I’ll take my chances and get my blanket pardon later when a real president gets in power thanks.
Being on this list should be an automatic multi year tax break for your service.
Whatever. When everyone is a terrorist, no one will be.
“When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty,”
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!
Is there an easy way to opt in to this? I want my name listed in an “enemies of this administration” database, please.
Seriously, with the latest round of agents sent to Minneapolis they are also going to start rounding up people who ”destroyed federal property” by damaging vehicles or throwing objects etc. it should have started today but I have not seen news to confirm it yet.
This is why you should play their game and wear mask at protests
If everyone is now a domestic terrorist being shot at, what’s the difference if someone really decides to act like one?
Good I hope they see this too fuck you ICE.
nothing about this is legal
ICE says a lot of things that are bullshit.
Guess who the bad guys are?
If only they understood the words they were saying.
Why would I be in border control’s database when I’m neither at the border or in need of control?
Let’s make sure that network is 300 million strong!
Cool. Am I on it? Can I be on it? Please, put me on that list.
Imagine that, more projection
“What’s that? You’re gonna put me on a list? What a coincidence, we’re putting you on a list too!”
Remember when they called themselves domestic terrorists at CPAC?
Every protest has creeps who crawl by slowly in cars, filming everyone’s faces. I don’t think they are doing it for their own amusement.
Running around in masks, threatening people exercising their constitutional rights, snatching people off the street in unmarked vehicles, targeting job sites, beatings, rapes, extrajudicial killings, and they have the nerve to say immigrants are the problem smh.
I made this post and shared it elsewhere, but I will share it here as well since this came up.
# FYI: Recording ICE and being added to a “Terrorist” database is a direct violation of 28 CFR Part 23. Know your rights.
*I am not a lawyer, only a former criminal intelligence analyst, if you are a lawyer please consider taking this up as a case, if you are not a lawyer consider pushing your representative to start a congressional inquiry/investigation. This is a massive violation of established laws and guidelines.*
I’ve been seeing a lot of reports/videos/questions about ICE (or other agencies) taking photos of people recording them and claiming they are being added to a “terrorist” or “criminal” database solely for filming.
If this is happening in a multijurisdictional intelligence system, it is a textbook violation of federal law – specifically 28 CFR Part 23.
Under this federal regulation, law enforcement agencies are strictly prohibited from adding you to an intelligence database unless they meet these criteria:
NO “Reasonable Suspicion”: Under § 23.20(a), they cannot put you in a system unless there is reasonable suspicion of definable criminal activity. Recording a federal agent in public is a constitutionally protected act, not a crime.
First Amendment Violations: § 23.20(b) explicitly forbids agencies from collecting or maintaining info on people based on their social or political activities unless it’s directly related to criminal conduct. Recording the government is a First Amendment right.
Harassment & “Chilling Effects”: § 23.20(l) states that intelligence projects cannot be used to harass or interfere with lawful political activities. Labeling a legal observer or a bystander a “terrorist” for holding a phone is a clear attempt to intimidate. (I believe this applies *even if they are lying*)
False Information: § 23.20(g) requires that all data be accurate and relevant. Entering a “Terrorist” label for someone who has committed no crime is a violation of data integrity.
If this happens to you, what you can do: Document everything: Get the officer’s name, badge number, and the exact time/location. (Clearly this is a problem with these ICE goons, however, record license plates as though will be tied to the agents operating them).
File a Privacy Act Request: You can file a FOIA/Privacy Act request with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to see if records exist on you.
Contact Advocacy Groups: If you think you’ve been “watchlisted” for filming, reach out to the ACLU or the National Lawyers Guild (NLG).
Don’t let them intimidate you into putting the camera down. The law is literally written to prevent this exact type of overreach.
TL;DR: 28 CFR Part 23 says they need “Reasonable Suspicion” of a crime to put you in an intelligence database. Filming them isn’t a crime; it’s a right.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, I am a former criminal intelligence analyst, my job involved maintaining one of these databases and the law is extremely strict on what can go in it, despite public perception.
The video of the ICE agent stating that woman going into a database as a terrorist is a blatant violation of this law and should trigger a congressional investigation.
Read the full text of the regulation on the eCFR website. [https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-28/chapter-I/part-23](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-28/chapter-I/part-23)
Edit: I believe 28 CFR Part 23 only applies if data is entered into a DOJ-funded criminal intelligence system. We don’t know at this point if this is the case. But either way, it merits a congressional investigation.
Keep recording, they say this because they don’t want to be prosecuted in the near future.
Keep filming!! Fuck them!
Complete bullshit
At a certain point you have to recognize that they DO know they are the baddies
They LIKE being the baddies
They aren’t stupid, this is what THEY want
Just so we’re all on the same page:
* They have a database of ‘domestic terrorist suspects’ that they are enhancing with all sorts of data about you, if they scan your face or whatever they do
* Stephen Miller said on TV that impeding officers make you a domestic terrorist and a felon
* Felons cannot vote
* Felons cannot own guns.
* They want the voter roll data (not just minnesota – everywhere). This reveals what they are really after: vote manipulation.
* If you’re in the database, your vote can be contested. Maybe eliminated.
ICE is drawing out opposition – a hundred thousand Minnesotans altogether? more? – cataloguing them, and labelling them.
Elections are won by what, 10,000 votes?
What if you can just make 50,000 opposing votes disappear?
Cancelling an election is a big move that invites opposition. No precedent. But contesting the votes of suspected terrorists and felons? That’s easy. Who would oppose that? It’s already legal.
No worries, you are on the government payroll. We have our own data base. We’ll make sure to use it. First chance we get.
I feel like the government sponsored murderers are closer to the definition of domestic terrorist. Call me crazy.
so if they are going to dox, I guess they have zero moral standing when they get doxxed?
Kinda like putting a potus seal in front of an election stealing pedophile insurrectionist and calling him president.
Doesn’t mean much to be called a “terrorist” by a group of Nazi wannabes.
So, they admit they have a hit list. Now its premeditated murder.
Being called a terrorist by a terrorist just doesn’t hit as hard.
Fine, take the data… when the tide turns and you are held responsible for your actions, the evidence will help ensure your conviction.