[OC] Estimated death toll of Jan 3 – 4 protests crackdown in Iran, as reported by different sources over time, under total internet and phone shut down.
[OC] Estimated death toll of Jan 3 – 4 protests crackdown in Iran, as reported by different sources over time, under total internet and phone shut down.
I understand why this is in log scale but I would also love to see it in linear.
DodgyPotatoDealer on
Just saying that using log for scale isn’t the best practice
-p-e-w- on
One thing I’ve noticed about these estimates is that they are basically never accompanied by an explanation for how they were obtained. It’s completely impossible to do any meaningful comparison that way.
Mass communication is gone, independent reporters are either nonexistent or heavily restricted, free press hasn’t been a thing for decades, and any official numbers would be unreliable at best and outright lies at worst. So how do international observers even *attempt* to estimate the death toll? I don’t understand this at all.
Shekari_Club on
Is it possible to estimate the actual death toll? Internet is slowly getting connected, but only a small potion have access to it. The regime is putting a lot of pressure on family of protestors to not report the death. Lots of people are disappeared, either dead or arrested.
NoCSForYou on
There is no way you get WW1 battle death tolls from guys welding pistols and shotguns.
People were climbing barbed wire and directly fired upon by machine guns.
Information coming out is likely going to be heavily biased either towards or against. Given the footage of the crackdowns and the weapons being used we are likely looking at max a few hundred per major city per day.
We know the crackdown lasted 2 nights. Any number above 10k is just detached to reality.
-Space313- on
Rule 3: Data sources and tools?
torpedo_attack on
One of the worst posts in this community. I just hope you work for marketing department in Nvidia, Intel or AMD, otherwise there are no reasons to use log scaling
Professional_Ad8872 on
Who killed who? Military killed citizens? (Ignorant question but i havnt heard)
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30,000 innocent people in just two nights
I understand why this is in log scale but I would also love to see it in linear.
Just saying that using log for scale isn’t the best practice
One thing I’ve noticed about these estimates is that they are basically never accompanied by an explanation for how they were obtained. It’s completely impossible to do any meaningful comparison that way.
Mass communication is gone, independent reporters are either nonexistent or heavily restricted, free press hasn’t been a thing for decades, and any official numbers would be unreliable at best and outright lies at worst. So how do international observers even *attempt* to estimate the death toll? I don’t understand this at all.
Is it possible to estimate the actual death toll? Internet is slowly getting connected, but only a small potion have access to it. The regime is putting a lot of pressure on family of protestors to not report the death. Lots of people are disappeared, either dead or arrested.
There is no way you get WW1 battle death tolls from guys welding pistols and shotguns.
People were climbing barbed wire and directly fired upon by machine guns.
Information coming out is likely going to be heavily biased either towards or against. Given the footage of the crackdowns and the weapons being used we are likely looking at max a few hundred per major city per day.
We know the crackdown lasted 2 nights. Any number above 10k is just detached to reality.
Rule 3: Data sources and tools?
One of the worst posts in this community. I just hope you work for marketing department in Nvidia, Intel or AMD, otherwise there are no reasons to use log scaling
Who killed who? Military killed citizens? (Ignorant question but i havnt heard)