Not enough. I hate bellends who fell trees without a good reason. “Oh yeah, that living miracle of nature was in the way of compensating that I’ve got a tiny willy”
Twat.
pip2k8 on
Millionaire gets slap on the wrist and continues on doing wrong things as he can get away with it*
FlyConsistent6464 on
Not even £1000 pee tree..
They could have fined 10x that would have actually tort them a lesson, be a future deterrent, and could have used that money to plant hundreds more trees.
Bec21-21 on
I doubt this millionaire is very worried about 20k
dan0o9 on
Less a fine more that he’s just paid £20k to get rid of those trees.
NastyStreetRat on
Millionaire fined $20k… that’s half of what he spends on clothes every time he goes shopping
ConstantineGSB on
Fines are just additional expenditure for millionaires. Like popping to the shops to grab a bottle of milk, no biggie. Until all fines are based on a % of all income, it wont matter at all.
Smooth_Imagination on
Isnt visual impact rather an important consideration in planning?
SuperTed321 on
Should have been fined 10x and also forced to plant replacement equivalent trees.
It’s be cause of situations like this that the social contract of communities is broken with it become clear that extreme wealth allows all actions to be essentially allowed.
notleave_eu on
Should have been % of their pay and the requirement to replant similar.
wkavinsky on
If a fine doesn’t hurt it’s just a cost of the job.
For a millionaire this is just paying to do something no one else can do (see also parking wherever in London and just paying the tickets).
MissAntiRacist on
Would it not have been possible to at least try and replant them elsewhere?
Exemplar1968 on
I think we are all missing the bigger issue here. The representative from Natural England was Nick Squirrel…..
Icy-Meaning1801 on
Ideally, they should also order him to demolish what he’d built in addition to the fine, but these bastards have plenty of money to litigate and in the end they almost always get their way.
5harp3dges on
That’s nothing to a millionaire.
Stop giving the rich such an easy ride to skirt common law and decency.
Fines and prison sentences must scale in proportion to income and influence.
kaway24 on
Fines should be means tested, otherwise the punishment is in effect only for the poor. Like traffic tickets in some EU countries, where what you pay is proportional to your wealth. Speed while poor? Might be a €100 fine, which hurts for you. Speed while rich? Might be a €1M fine. Whatever is the same PROPORTIONAL level of financial hurt 🤷♂️
anarchtea on
I’m only echoing other comments but there needs to be some kind of law introduced for fines and percentages based on wage/wealth. No, I don’t know how it’d strictly work, but the spirit would be “if you’re wealthy and you receive a fine, it’s going to be much worse than the standard.” Just a little 1am rage at wealthy arseholes showing no responsibility.
jimmywhereareya on
They should jail these fuckers. A financial penalty means nothing to them. The 2 blokes who chopped down the Sycamore gap tree were jailed for over 4 years. And they didn’t have a pot between them to piss in
loud-spider on
He should probably get a license for that Stargate at the end of the ramp as well.
ThatIestyn on
Just the expense of doing what you want as a millionaire
KingSolomansLament on
If the goal of the fine isn’t a deterrence, it doesn’t need to be proportional. Maybe society is better off with the extra revenue from the fine, and we don’t need to be so mad
grunt1533894 on
I sure do hope those cliffs don’t suffer from erosion and his stupid pool doesn’t fall in the sea.
AVeryNiceBoyPerhaps on
those trees were almost certainly holding the soil together with their roots. Now they’re gone it’s a matter of time before the ground erodes away
frantic_calm on
Should not be allowed to build on there and should be made to make good as far as possible or it’s just the cost of doing business to a multi millionaire rich enough to flout the law. Should be in prison and lose the building.
Also disgusting that he was allowed to continue clearing for a year before anyone stepped in.
fsfaith on
That’s not enough. We need an income percentage based punishment. The rich are out there being so wealthy that fines are nothing but just a bit more tax to them. It’s supposed to hurt not be a minor inconvenience.
stomp224 on
He probably has that much loose change in his sofa. Needs at least two more zeros before it would get his attention. Pathetic.
Emergencygrenade on
Just the addon price for the pool, the price of doing business
Spamgrenade on
I just knew this would be Poole before I read the article. The area has been sucking in entitled pricks since the 1990s.
This guy cut down the trees to improve his view, not just make room for the pool. Unfortunately for him removing all that vegetation from the side of a cliff is going to cause serious erosion and no way will he be able to build a wall strong enough there to hold back the weight of the water in his pool. That’s an accident waiting to happen.
-Hi-Reddit on
Should have ordered trees replanted and the planning permission for the pool revoked and ordered to be demolished.
Higher fines, even tied to a homes value, leave peoole vulnerable to rogue landscapers and farmers vulnerable to losing generational farms over it.
convictedninja on
“Millionaire” fined £20,000. Cool I guess if a regular person did it they’d be fined 50p?
If it’s not means tested then it isn’t a fine, it’s a cost.
E5VL on
Should been fined $50k and any & all further development should be aimed at undoing the damage caused. I know it said that that they can’t rip out what has been put in already but they could add stuff to reduce the effects of the added stuff and probably make the developer stump up more dosh to create more wildlife space to compensate for the space that has been destroyed. With a obvious permanent stop work notice in place for that part of the site.
MrNewVegas2077 on
Slap on the wrist. Force him to rip the pool out and plant new trees
quite_acceptable_man on
So he got exactly what he wanted and it only cost him £20,000. What he did has probably added more than that to the value of the house, so it’s a win/win for him.
Kind of confirms that ‘punishable by fine’ simply means ‘legal for the rich’.
dingo_deano on
£ 20,000 on a 10mil pound development project sounds like a W
Vargosian on
So realistically its just that his pool cost an extra 20k.
Thats nothing at all.
RunRinseRepeat666 on
£20k yup.
That’s why it’s easier just to cut down what suits the build and just pay the fine. 20k in a 10M build is very cheap. Much cheaper than the consultancy chain costs to even engage in a legal solution.
kettle_of_f1sh on
I wouldn’t worry, his house will be in the sea soon.
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Not enough. I hate bellends who fell trees without a good reason. “Oh yeah, that living miracle of nature was in the way of compensating that I’ve got a tiny willy”
Twat.
Millionaire gets slap on the wrist and continues on doing wrong things as he can get away with it*
Not even £1000 pee tree..
They could have fined 10x that would have actually tort them a lesson, be a future deterrent, and could have used that money to plant hundreds more trees.
I doubt this millionaire is very worried about 20k
Less a fine more that he’s just paid £20k to get rid of those trees.
Millionaire fined $20k… that’s half of what he spends on clothes every time he goes shopping
Fines are just additional expenditure for millionaires. Like popping to the shops to grab a bottle of milk, no biggie. Until all fines are based on a % of all income, it wont matter at all.
Isnt visual impact rather an important consideration in planning?
Should have been fined 10x and also forced to plant replacement equivalent trees.
It’s be cause of situations like this that the social contract of communities is broken with it become clear that extreme wealth allows all actions to be essentially allowed.
Should have been % of their pay and the requirement to replant similar.
If a fine doesn’t hurt it’s just a cost of the job.
For a millionaire this is just paying to do something no one else can do (see also parking wherever in London and just paying the tickets).
Would it not have been possible to at least try and replant them elsewhere?
I think we are all missing the bigger issue here. The representative from Natural England was Nick Squirrel…..
Ideally, they should also order him to demolish what he’d built in addition to the fine, but these bastards have plenty of money to litigate and in the end they almost always get their way.
That’s nothing to a millionaire.
Stop giving the rich such an easy ride to skirt common law and decency.
Fines and prison sentences must scale in proportion to income and influence.
Fines should be means tested, otherwise the punishment is in effect only for the poor. Like traffic tickets in some EU countries, where what you pay is proportional to your wealth. Speed while poor? Might be a €100 fine, which hurts for you. Speed while rich? Might be a €1M fine. Whatever is the same PROPORTIONAL level of financial hurt 🤷♂️
I’m only echoing other comments but there needs to be some kind of law introduced for fines and percentages based on wage/wealth. No, I don’t know how it’d strictly work, but the spirit would be “if you’re wealthy and you receive a fine, it’s going to be much worse than the standard.” Just a little 1am rage at wealthy arseholes showing no responsibility.
They should jail these fuckers. A financial penalty means nothing to them. The 2 blokes who chopped down the Sycamore gap tree were jailed for over 4 years. And they didn’t have a pot between them to piss in
He should probably get a license for that Stargate at the end of the ramp as well.
Just the expense of doing what you want as a millionaire
If the goal of the fine isn’t a deterrence, it doesn’t need to be proportional. Maybe society is better off with the extra revenue from the fine, and we don’t need to be so mad
I sure do hope those cliffs don’t suffer from erosion and his stupid pool doesn’t fall in the sea.
those trees were almost certainly holding the soil together with their roots. Now they’re gone it’s a matter of time before the ground erodes away
Should not be allowed to build on there and should be made to make good as far as possible or it’s just the cost of doing business to a multi millionaire rich enough to flout the law. Should be in prison and lose the building.
Also disgusting that he was allowed to continue clearing for a year before anyone stepped in.
That’s not enough. We need an income percentage based punishment. The rich are out there being so wealthy that fines are nothing but just a bit more tax to them. It’s supposed to hurt not be a minor inconvenience.
He probably has that much loose change in his sofa. Needs at least two more zeros before it would get his attention. Pathetic.
Just the addon price for the pool, the price of doing business
I just knew this would be Poole before I read the article. The area has been sucking in entitled pricks since the 1990s.
This guy cut down the trees to improve his view, not just make room for the pool. Unfortunately for him removing all that vegetation from the side of a cliff is going to cause serious erosion and no way will he be able to build a wall strong enough there to hold back the weight of the water in his pool. That’s an accident waiting to happen.
Should have ordered trees replanted and the planning permission for the pool revoked and ordered to be demolished.
Higher fines, even tied to a homes value, leave peoole vulnerable to rogue landscapers and farmers vulnerable to losing generational farms over it.
“Millionaire” fined £20,000. Cool I guess if a regular person did it they’d be fined 50p?
If it’s not means tested then it isn’t a fine, it’s a cost.
Should been fined $50k and any & all further development should be aimed at undoing the damage caused. I know it said that that they can’t rip out what has been put in already but they could add stuff to reduce the effects of the added stuff and probably make the developer stump up more dosh to create more wildlife space to compensate for the space that has been destroyed. With a obvious permanent stop work notice in place for that part of the site.
Slap on the wrist. Force him to rip the pool out and plant new trees
So he got exactly what he wanted and it only cost him £20,000. What he did has probably added more than that to the value of the house, so it’s a win/win for him.
Kind of confirms that ‘punishable by fine’ simply means ‘legal for the rich’.
£ 20,000 on a 10mil pound development project sounds like a W
So realistically its just that his pool cost an extra 20k.
Thats nothing at all.
£20k yup.
That’s why it’s easier just to cut down what suits the build and just pay the fine. 20k in a 10M build is very cheap. Much cheaper than the consultancy chain costs to even engage in a legal solution.
I wouldn’t worry, his house will be in the sea soon.