As a French person reading this we’d be so happy to have you guys back in, even in an outer tier or however you’d like ❤️
Univeralise on
I just don’t see a point unless we get common market access without any border/checks. It feels this hybrid approach we typically get the worst of both worlds.
iamabigtree on
So far that Brexit basically didn’t happen? Ok then let’s go.
vaginal_obligations on
Feels like we’re edging closer again, and as an ex-Leaver I say it can’t come soon enough. Eventually conditions will be acceptable enough for the UK to rejoin. Current trade deals signed are trivial compared to what we can gain being in the bloc. Being on the outside feels like a complete loss of sovereignty when basically we have no leverage and have to bend over backwards for every major economic power. Today’s ‘deal’ with china was laughable – whiskey tariffs generating £250m over 5 years for the treasury. Absolute pennies. Then some vague promise about allowing UK companies in China. Just weak and pathetic. Join the bloc and get some economic sovereignty back.
pss1pss1pss1 on
Yep, sure. EU: “Pay us €10 billion a year and we’ll think about it.”
Krabsandwich on
He will no doubt try the Commission will no doubt ask for a massive amount of cash, the UK will say no and we will return to “negotiating” about talks. It will probably never be resolved to either sides satisfaction so we will keep on talking and hope that something turns up.
boredaf723 on
With Trump’s U.S. being as volatile as ever closer ties to the EU are necessary man. National pride needs to be set aside; Brexit was an awful idea in 2016 and now it is catastrophic
TravellingMackem on
It doesn’t matter. Kier said it. Therefore he’ll have to u-turn on it sooner or later.
Wise-Reflection-7400 on
Brexit is the scapegoat in the same way the EU was before we had Brexit. If we ever fully “unwound” Brexit and rejoined, it would not be long before all our economic problems were blamed on it again.
Just make good with the situation we have now. Our current economic struggles are not down to being outside the EU. We’ve been out for 5 years now and were beating EU growth until only a year or so ago…
ImColinDentHowzTrix on
As much as I’d love to see the damage from that stupid mistake undone, the argument can be made that we held a referendum and, stupid as it was, we did vote for this. If they go back on it then their critics would be right to say that they’re undoing a thing which we, in all our fucking wisdom, did *vote* for.
NotEntirelyShure on
Mark my words he will campaign the next election on rejoining and the election a mandate to rejoin.
Because that is the only thing that could galvanise support behind him.
xParesh on
Dear Kier, stop teasing us. Make it a manifesto pledge in for the next election that a vote for Labour is a vote to rejoin the EU.
If it’s such a sure fire slam dunk, just make the case and get on with it
EclectrcPanoptic on
Just hold another referendum, half the Brexit voters have died since 2016 anyway
Asleep-Ad1182 on
We will be handing over lots of power and paying lots of money to get privileges Australia and Canada get for free.
Asleep-Ad1182 on
The EU has only offered us dreadful deals since leaving
5harp3dges on
Starmers making good moves imo.
I don’t really get all the hate, all the shit people are angry about was the tories still, and Farages brexit fallout.
pajamakitten on
People will whine but Brexit has not brought us any benefits. The new trade deals we have are not as good as what we had as part of the EU and we are obviously in a worse position with our closest neighbours. With America no longer trustworthy as an ally, we need to stop pretending that we can go it alone and admit that being part of the largest trading bloc has its uses.
exileon21 on
Who wouldn’t want Ursula ‘oops I accidentally deleted all my WhatsApp messages negotiating vaccines deal for EU with Pfizer’ van der Leyen and Kaja ‘sorry my husband’s company kept trading with Russia well into the war while I was threatening anyone else doing it with sanctions’ Kallas at the helm of leading our country to greatness as part of the EU?
JAGERW0LF on
Yay let’s become the 28th fucking state of the United States of Europe.
If you deny that’s coming your either a crappy lier or ignorant of what the EU wishes to become.
stiiii on
Good job Trump. You made it clear that the UK really does need EU….
InterestedPrawn on
Just reenter the common market, just what the original concept was before it decided to expand in 92 and 05.
NW773 on
Brevit is the worst thing to happy to tbe UK in our history.
VoidsweptDaybreak on
as a ex reluctant remainer, no thanks. i don’t want anything to do with the eu at this point. project fear never materialised. i fell for it at the time but it’s clear now that it was just that: fearmongering bullshit. we can trade with the eu without joining
Prince100001 on
We ain’t coming back, especially if EU demands free movement of its citizens.
Just some trade deals needed, which EU will readily agree.
We don’t need an influx of citizens from impoverished EU countries or the new useless ones. I say it how it is!
neo4025 on
I was historically sceptical of being apart of the EU. Not enough that I voted to leave. You can’t change what you’re not apart of. But wouldn’t it be great to be apart of a union of sorts with the EU. I know it’s unlikely we’d be able to fully rejoin. But I am 100% open to a strong trading union
chickennuggets3454 on
Our economy is doing better than many eu countries at the moment like Germany, France, Italy, Austria. Rejoining the eu will also just increase unemployment even more, being tied to a major economy only helps corporates not the working class.
SelectiveScribbler06 on
What the EU set out to be back in the 1970s seems to be a good middle way. It was originally called the ‘**E**conomic **E**uropean **C**ommunity’, or **EEC.** Little bit of history for you there.
It’s the best of both worlds: each country gets more freedom than under current EU laws, and in times of trouble the alliance can bandy together.
PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_ on
It’s almost like being part of a bloc helps stop bigger economies bullying you…
Particular-Win3045 on
Can we have a vote to get rid of this absolute gremlin?
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As a French person reading this we’d be so happy to have you guys back in, even in an outer tier or however you’d like ❤️
I just don’t see a point unless we get common market access without any border/checks. It feels this hybrid approach we typically get the worst of both worlds.
So far that Brexit basically didn’t happen? Ok then let’s go.
Feels like we’re edging closer again, and as an ex-Leaver I say it can’t come soon enough. Eventually conditions will be acceptable enough for the UK to rejoin. Current trade deals signed are trivial compared to what we can gain being in the bloc. Being on the outside feels like a complete loss of sovereignty when basically we have no leverage and have to bend over backwards for every major economic power. Today’s ‘deal’ with china was laughable – whiskey tariffs generating £250m over 5 years for the treasury. Absolute pennies. Then some vague promise about allowing UK companies in China. Just weak and pathetic. Join the bloc and get some economic sovereignty back.
Yep, sure. EU: “Pay us €10 billion a year and we’ll think about it.”
He will no doubt try the Commission will no doubt ask for a massive amount of cash, the UK will say no and we will return to “negotiating” about talks. It will probably never be resolved to either sides satisfaction so we will keep on talking and hope that something turns up.
With Trump’s U.S. being as volatile as ever closer ties to the EU are necessary man. National pride needs to be set aside; Brexit was an awful idea in 2016 and now it is catastrophic
It doesn’t matter. Kier said it. Therefore he’ll have to u-turn on it sooner or later.
Brexit is the scapegoat in the same way the EU was before we had Brexit. If we ever fully “unwound” Brexit and rejoined, it would not be long before all our economic problems were blamed on it again.
Just make good with the situation we have now. Our current economic struggles are not down to being outside the EU. We’ve been out for 5 years now and were beating EU growth until only a year or so ago…
As much as I’d love to see the damage from that stupid mistake undone, the argument can be made that we held a referendum and, stupid as it was, we did vote for this. If they go back on it then their critics would be right to say that they’re undoing a thing which we, in all our fucking wisdom, did *vote* for.
Mark my words he will campaign the next election on rejoining and the election a mandate to rejoin.
Because that is the only thing that could galvanise support behind him.
Dear Kier, stop teasing us. Make it a manifesto pledge in for the next election that a vote for Labour is a vote to rejoin the EU.
If it’s such a sure fire slam dunk, just make the case and get on with it
Just hold another referendum, half the Brexit voters have died since 2016 anyway
We will be handing over lots of power and paying lots of money to get privileges Australia and Canada get for free.
The EU has only offered us dreadful deals since leaving
Starmers making good moves imo.
I don’t really get all the hate, all the shit people are angry about was the tories still, and Farages brexit fallout.
People will whine but Brexit has not brought us any benefits. The new trade deals we have are not as good as what we had as part of the EU and we are obviously in a worse position with our closest neighbours. With America no longer trustworthy as an ally, we need to stop pretending that we can go it alone and admit that being part of the largest trading bloc has its uses.
Who wouldn’t want Ursula ‘oops I accidentally deleted all my WhatsApp messages negotiating vaccines deal for EU with Pfizer’ van der Leyen and Kaja ‘sorry my husband’s company kept trading with Russia well into the war while I was threatening anyone else doing it with sanctions’ Kallas at the helm of leading our country to greatness as part of the EU?
Yay let’s become the 28th fucking state of the United States of Europe.
If you deny that’s coming your either a crappy lier or ignorant of what the EU wishes to become.
Good job Trump. You made it clear that the UK really does need EU….
Just reenter the common market, just what the original concept was before it decided to expand in 92 and 05.
Brevit is the worst thing to happy to tbe UK in our history.
as a ex reluctant remainer, no thanks. i don’t want anything to do with the eu at this point. project fear never materialised. i fell for it at the time but it’s clear now that it was just that: fearmongering bullshit. we can trade with the eu without joining
We ain’t coming back, especially if EU demands free movement of its citizens.
Just some trade deals needed, which EU will readily agree.
We don’t need an influx of citizens from impoverished EU countries or the new useless ones. I say it how it is!
I was historically sceptical of being apart of the EU. Not enough that I voted to leave. You can’t change what you’re not apart of. But wouldn’t it be great to be apart of a union of sorts with the EU. I know it’s unlikely we’d be able to fully rejoin. But I am 100% open to a strong trading union
Our economy is doing better than many eu countries at the moment like Germany, France, Italy, Austria. Rejoining the eu will also just increase unemployment even more, being tied to a major economy only helps corporates not the working class.
What the EU set out to be back in the 1970s seems to be a good middle way. It was originally called the ‘**E**conomic **E**uropean **C**ommunity’, or **EEC.** Little bit of history for you there.
It’s the best of both worlds: each country gets more freedom than under current EU laws, and in times of trouble the alliance can bandy together.
It’s almost like being part of a bloc helps stop bigger economies bullying you…
Can we have a vote to get rid of this absolute gremlin?