Source: https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000011778430.html
What are the reasons why the unemployment rate within foreign-born citizens has almost doubled in three years?
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What are the reasons why the unemployment rate within foreign-born citizens has almost doubled in three years?
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Here’s one https://yle.fi/a/74-20139621
Conclusion: the current high unemployment rate is mainly caused by the unemployment of foreign-born people in Finland while the native unemployed rate has remained more or less than the same.
There should ve possibility to remove permant residency.
Where did you get data? Can you do also breakdown for country and age?
Ive heard there is some cult of people who mainly follows welfare benefits
Probably harder to employ immigrants coming in. For example, there have been massive amounts of students coming in, as well as pulling in their whole families with them. Even if that student finds employement, their family might not, and the effect is a net negative. This isn’t even accounting for the fact that many of the student immigrants come for the AMKs, which are taking in foreigners, because Finns don’t want to study there. There are way too many AMKs in Finland, many of which have a very low quality of education. Due to the low birthrate, the student position amount should be reduced, as the age classes get smaller, but for obvious reasons they are reluctant to do so.
Foreign born unemployment was drastically falling and in course to fall under that untill in 2023 something changed and took a sharp turn to increase. What happened in 2023 and by who?
Now I remember, Mr Orpo became primeminister.
I’m sure marginalizing the migramt workers does wonders to their unemployement rate
Many foreigners workers are first to go when economy collapses. there are less demand for work force and those not in permanent work contract are in a loose chain.
Why would they include 15-17 year olds in that?
Not really shocking is it.
When the economy is doing poorly and unemployment is high you can be more selective about who you hire, and both speaking and being Finnish are advantages, so it’s the foreigners who lose out first.
Just to be safe, all non Finnish people should probably be removed from Finland*. I reckon that will fix everything.
Sarcasm.
This chart should have number of immigration growth line as well. May be also map war refugees separate then immigrants.
> What are the reasons
**The article you linked and took the graph from discusses the reasons:**
> “After 2022, the Finnish economy was hit by inflation and rising interest rates, which resulted in a low economic cycle and a strong recession in the construction sector. Construction is a sector that has traditionally employed many people born abroad.”
> Another key background factor is that immigration to Finland has continued to be exceptionally strong precisely at a time when the labor market situation has weakened, Lähdemäki estimates.
> The KEHA Center, which is responsible for labor force statistics, emphasizes that focusing solely on foreigners does not provide a sufficient picture of Finland’s employment challenges.
> “Economic booms and busts affect immigrants more than the native population.”
> Like young people, foreigners more often end up in atypical employment relationships, such as part-time jobs and fixed-term contracts, Lehtovaara describes.
> This makes them more vulnerable to economic fluctuations.
Why would you post the graph and the article without reading the article?
So ethnic Finnish population has higher unemployment than Greece. How the tables turned lol
I’ll add some relevant info from the article to avoid any _unintended_ misinformation:
– Three largest groups are Ukrainians, Estonians and Russians, who together amount to over 15 000 unemployed people.
– Article claims troubles in the construction sector as a main reason: many foreign former construction workers have stayed in Finland after the work possibilities dried up
– Another factor is that immigration has remained at a high level even while the employment situation is problematic. People come to Finland and end up in the unemployment statistics
That is a remarkable graph. Why has this been hidden earlier by media and politicians?
What happened in 2023 that made at least the statistics change like that? Was it a real effect, or was something changed in how statistics are made? I mean, traditionally unemployment in statistics is hidden with these tricks like “courses” and things that make unemployed people to be not counted as unemployed in statistics, but that has been the same for all.
What changed in 2023 that was relevant to immigrants, but not Finnish born? It is just the foreign students bringing their families to Finland?
Article mentions 77000 persons and 45% immigrants since 2022, which means 34650 immigrants since 2022.
According to this article
[https://yle.fi/a/74-20169661](https://yle.fi/a/74-20169661)
there have been relatives of students getting permits to live in Finland (effect started in 2022):
2024: 10097
2023: 6932
2022: 2956
So total is 19985.
If we look at OP’s graph from 2022-2024, it is around 10.6%->16%. So those 34650 umemployed from 2022-2025 (10.6%->19.3%) include from 2022-2024 about 6/9*34650 = 23100 persons.
Result: The increase in unemployment is practically explained by students bringing their families and those family members being unemployed. The rest can be real change as times are not good economically.
If the guess is correct, the whole increase of unemployment from 2022-> is explained by immigration of families of students, which started around 2022.
But this is just hypothesis. It would be easy to check with the data of the origin of unemployed immigrants. Now OP’s article it behind pay-wall so it is not possible to read. It is possible the effect is something totally different and it is just a coincidence the magnitudes and starting year match above.
Blame the schools and companies that trick people to come here with no real hopes
I just arrived in Finland so This is an ongoing experiment for me. But my strategy is to make my heritage a benefit for me. I’m well connected with my embassy in Helsinki, the local culture and language institutes like me and I’ve connected with a library for books in my language. None of these things might turn out to turn into anything but I’m trying to work this in my favor here.
Then there’s no slacking on the Finnish either. I have to be fluent and I will be at some point. I can manage every day in Finnish but I’m working on getting it conversational.
And then lastly I can’t just rely on those things. Of course I can’t just rely on my heritage and still actively work on getting into Finnish companies ASAP. I secured a paid internship for a few months and I already did one of those in Helsinki last year giving me some work experience in the country.
It’s hard but I’m trying to work it out. We’ll see how far that will carry me. I will need a little extra luck probably anyway
In the news there are numbers of nationalities only for 2024 and 2025. In 2025 12k were from ukraine and estonia. Estonians I would guess were majority construction workers.
The rest of the nationalities were around 19k. So around 60% were non-estonians and non-ukrainians.
So were does the growth come from? Not from unemployed syrians and afghans I think many think is the case.
The whole graph basically doesnt tell much that is really worthy. Is the rise of new immigrants? Is it that some are fired and from what sector? What percentage of total unemployment was due to immigrants on each year? What is the unemployment of what nationality?