Tell you what, we should take the opportunity to clean house while we’ve got the paperwork out for Mandy and get rid of a bunch more of the feckless bastards.
Own-Victory473 on
Starmers got a cheek he was in a cia backed org undermining the UK
Remarkable-Ad155 on
At *least* i would think. Get him up testifying in the States alongside No Sweat Andy.
foodieshoes on
Remove Mandelson and Michelle Mone at the very least.
Then cull those who sit in as is minimally required and basically sleep through sessions to claim their allowances (think benefit scroungers) and get rid of Evgeny Lebedev.
Then give John Bercow a peerage.
potpan0 on
> The cabinet secretary, the UK’s most senior civil servant, will also investigate Mandelson’s actions as business secretary when Labour was last in power, after emails to Jeffrey Epstein about government policy emerged.
But no investigation into how he became Ambassador to the US despite objections from the security services? Alright.
thedybbuk_ on
I’d really rather my tax payers money wasn’t going towards people who think it was wrong Epstein was convicted and that it wouldn’t happen in the UK.
“I think the world of you and I feel hopeless and furious about what has happened. I can still barely understand it. It just could not happen in Britain. You have to be incredibly resilient, fight for early release and be philosophical about it as much as you can.”
Impressive-Bird-6085 on
I completely agree with Starmer on this!
Claire Fox, Johnson favoured ennobled young former staffer and a host of others can go too!
radilrouge on
Everyone knew he was best mates with Epstein and Starmer still had him in his inner circle in any just world Starmer would have already resigned
Responsible-Pie-5666 on
Mandelson’s links to Epstein have never been a secret. The arrogance of the Labour right to think they could get away with it.
Cynical_Classicist on
They should… Are you going to do anything, or will Glasman tell you to u-turn on it as it would piss off Bannon?
New_7688 on
He should be in prison. It’s clear he was actively participating in the sex trafficking, potentially with underage victims. And even if that wasn’t true, news broke today that he fed sensitive information about our government to Epstein in return for money. Deeply corrupt.
xenleah on
Can he be prosecuted too..? Some actual consequences for these depraved individuals would be great.
Outside-Locksmith346 on
Why this idiot of PM made him embassador to the US?
Where are the intelligence services?
Dave_B001 on
Anyone involved in Epstein and Covid money scandals, should be stripped.
elmo298 on
Why? Starmer was going to abolish the house of lords. Man the fuck up and do it
odysseusnz on
Funny how everyone, including the security services, warned him about Mandelson, but he (or McSweeney) knew better. If I was one of the ministers they sent out to do media supporting the decision to send him to DC I’d be livid. Shockingly poor judgement, but I bet there’s zero blowback for whomever thought it up.
AdEven8980 on
Labour supporters had a fit over Boris Johnston’s mis-guided decision to have some cake at a party during lockdown, calling him a disgrace and for immediate resignation.
Starmer literally ignores secret service information to appoint someone with known connections to a peodofile into a porminat goverment role. And the response is?
Honestly, how can you think someone who would make such a decision is suitable to make decisions on behalf of the country.
If Starmer had no clue about Mandelson, that would be one thing, but not only was it already widely known, Starmer was literally informed of this by the Secret service.
WinHour4300 on
Hate to say it, but I’m not in favour of the House of Lords stripping anyone of a peerage except in cases of serious criminal conviction. That kind of power is too easy to misuse.
Mandelson leaking documents to unsavoury figures isn’t exactly shocking: he was literally nicknamed the “Prince of Darkness.” That was half the job description.
The personal emails with Epstein after he was convicted, though, were genuinely off the wall.
Also, can we all please stop using the word “strip”? That photo of Mandelson in his boxers is now living rent-free in my head.
spodercat on
Should strip him of his skin as well, and anyone else that had anything to do with epstein
FuzzBuket on
On one hand, absolutely.
On the other starmers and co have known about mandelson for years, and dragged their feet heavily when removing the ambassadorship.
This is to sate the public rather than ethics
limeflavoured on
The House of Lords can’t. Only Parliament or The King can.
Personal_Director441 on
to be fair all cronies and/or top party donors should also be stripped of their ‘life’ peerages, add into that people like ‘totally not’ Boris’s daughter amongst other sycophants and i would say the whole chamber needs dare i use the word ‘Reforming’.
BenniesForNothing on
We can’t blame Keir for Mandelsons discretions; he gave him his full confidence without knowing all the facts.
Pikapoka1134 on
Him and also michelle mone who imo should be in Jail for stealing 60 million from the country.
Foreign-Entrance-255 on
You would think that Starmer was surprised by any of this but Mandelson was very well known to be up to his armpits in this st1t for many years and Starmer would have been briefed about it thoroughly before giving Mandleson a role.
If Mandelson should go, so should Starmer, his only problem with Mandelson being in kahoots (what else would you call continuing close relationship and exchanging money with him) with the most notorious child trafficker and child sex provider in the world is that it is bringing public controversy to him.
The real question is why Starmer was ok with working with Mandelson knowing what he knew about him? An obvious explanation is that Starmer was fine with Mandleson, saw no moral problem with him or Epstein and if that is so, Starmer should be kept outside a mile of Westminster let alone being PM.
rhecil-codes on
Perhaps the traditional penalty should be brought back for the treacherous nonce.
[deleted] on
Mandelson will be safe. The House of Lords is run on a mantel of cronyism. A favourable amount of them attended elite universities and they’re all bound together; all up each other nice and tight.
Defiant_Employee6681 on
Is the inference that Mandy was paid for information?
AdPale1469 on
yes and Charlotte Owens – Boris Johnson’s daughter
Any-Swing-3518 on
Errr yes, and why exactly did Starmer make Teflon Mandelson the ambassador to the US? Could it be because Mandelson was part of the network centered around Epstein who apparently was working for ███████
BEDZEDS on
If he sees himself as an embarrassment to the Labour Party, then he’s definitely more of an embarrassment to the House Of Lords
Gemini_2261 on
I would have thought that he’d be the perfect moral fit for the House of Lords.
Crusty_Gusset on
Starmer pretending he didn’t know all along. Mandelson’s ties to Epstein have been public for years. Starmer is fine with the whole thing. Complicit even.
sanityislost on
Throw him in prison for treason. If protesters are terrorists, but someone leaking confidential government to a foreign agent just means losing your job something is seriously wrong.
Anubis1958 on
This brings the whole of of the H of L into disrepute. Even more disrepute than they were in traying to jerrymander the Assisted Dying bill with over a 1000 amendments.
So, if you want a second house, get rid of all the Bishops, all of the hereditary peers, all of the political appointments, and have a second, elected chamber.
I never used to think like this, but I have been pursuaded that the H of L has long passed its sell by date.
nedsonred on
Good idea Keir. If only you were, I don’t know, the Prime Minister or something.
Dramatic-Ad-4607 on
And we are only in February, bloody hell I don’t even want to know what the rest of the year is going to be like. The madness of life.
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Tell you what, we should take the opportunity to clean house while we’ve got the paperwork out for Mandy and get rid of a bunch more of the feckless bastards.
Starmers got a cheek he was in a cia backed org undermining the UK
At *least* i would think. Get him up testifying in the States alongside No Sweat Andy.
Remove Mandelson and Michelle Mone at the very least.
Then cull those who sit in as is minimally required and basically sleep through sessions to claim their allowances (think benefit scroungers) and get rid of Evgeny Lebedev.
Then give John Bercow a peerage.
> The cabinet secretary, the UK’s most senior civil servant, will also investigate Mandelson’s actions as business secretary when Labour was last in power, after emails to Jeffrey Epstein about government policy emerged.
But no investigation into how he became Ambassador to the US despite objections from the security services? Alright.
I’d really rather my tax payers money wasn’t going towards people who think it was wrong Epstein was convicted and that it wouldn’t happen in the UK.
“I think the world of you and I feel hopeless and furious about what has happened. I can still barely understand it. It just could not happen in Britain. You have to be incredibly resilient, fight for early release and be philosophical about it as much as you can.”
I completely agree with Starmer on this!
Claire Fox, Johnson favoured ennobled young former staffer and a host of others can go too!
Everyone knew he was best mates with Epstein and Starmer still had him in his inner circle in any just world Starmer would have already resigned
Mandelson’s links to Epstein have never been a secret. The arrogance of the Labour right to think they could get away with it.
They should… Are you going to do anything, or will Glasman tell you to u-turn on it as it would piss off Bannon?
He should be in prison. It’s clear he was actively participating in the sex trafficking, potentially with underage victims. And even if that wasn’t true, news broke today that he fed sensitive information about our government to Epstein in return for money. Deeply corrupt.
Can he be prosecuted too..? Some actual consequences for these depraved individuals would be great.
Why this idiot of PM made him embassador to the US?
Where are the intelligence services?
Anyone involved in Epstein and Covid money scandals, should be stripped.
Why? Starmer was going to abolish the house of lords. Man the fuck up and do it
Funny how everyone, including the security services, warned him about Mandelson, but he (or McSweeney) knew better. If I was one of the ministers they sent out to do media supporting the decision to send him to DC I’d be livid. Shockingly poor judgement, but I bet there’s zero blowback for whomever thought it up.
Labour supporters had a fit over Boris Johnston’s mis-guided decision to have some cake at a party during lockdown, calling him a disgrace and for immediate resignation.
Starmer literally ignores secret service information to appoint someone with known connections to a peodofile into a porminat goverment role. And the response is?
Honestly, how can you think someone who would make such a decision is suitable to make decisions on behalf of the country.
If Starmer had no clue about Mandelson, that would be one thing, but not only was it already widely known, Starmer was literally informed of this by the Secret service.
Hate to say it, but I’m not in favour of the House of Lords stripping anyone of a peerage except in cases of serious criminal conviction. That kind of power is too easy to misuse.
Mandelson leaking documents to unsavoury figures isn’t exactly shocking: he was literally nicknamed the “Prince of Darkness.” That was half the job description.
The personal emails with Epstein after he was convicted, though, were genuinely off the wall.
Also, can we all please stop using the word “strip”? That photo of Mandelson in his boxers is now living rent-free in my head.
Should strip him of his skin as well, and anyone else that had anything to do with epstein
On one hand, absolutely.
On the other starmers and co have known about mandelson for years, and dragged their feet heavily when removing the ambassadorship.
This is to sate the public rather than ethics
The House of Lords can’t. Only Parliament or The King can.
to be fair all cronies and/or top party donors should also be stripped of their ‘life’ peerages, add into that people like ‘totally not’ Boris’s daughter amongst other sycophants and i would say the whole chamber needs dare i use the word ‘Reforming’.
We can’t blame Keir for Mandelsons discretions; he gave him his full confidence without knowing all the facts.
Him and also michelle mone who imo should be in Jail for stealing 60 million from the country.
You would think that Starmer was surprised by any of this but Mandelson was very well known to be up to his armpits in this st1t for many years and Starmer would have been briefed about it thoroughly before giving Mandleson a role.
If Mandelson should go, so should Starmer, his only problem with Mandelson being in kahoots (what else would you call continuing close relationship and exchanging money with him) with the most notorious child trafficker and child sex provider in the world is that it is bringing public controversy to him.
The real question is why Starmer was ok with working with Mandelson knowing what he knew about him? An obvious explanation is that Starmer was fine with Mandleson, saw no moral problem with him or Epstein and if that is so, Starmer should be kept outside a mile of Westminster let alone being PM.
Perhaps the traditional penalty should be brought back for the treacherous nonce.
Mandelson will be safe. The House of Lords is run on a mantel of cronyism. A favourable amount of them attended elite universities and they’re all bound together; all up each other nice and tight.
Is the inference that Mandy was paid for information?
yes and Charlotte Owens – Boris Johnson’s daughter
Errr yes, and why exactly did Starmer make Teflon Mandelson the ambassador to the US? Could it be because Mandelson was part of the network centered around Epstein who apparently was working for ███████
If he sees himself as an embarrassment to the Labour Party, then he’s definitely more of an embarrassment to the House Of Lords
I would have thought that he’d be the perfect moral fit for the House of Lords.
Starmer pretending he didn’t know all along. Mandelson’s ties to Epstein have been public for years. Starmer is fine with the whole thing. Complicit even.
Throw him in prison for treason. If protesters are terrorists, but someone leaking confidential government to a foreign agent just means losing your job something is seriously wrong.
This brings the whole of of the H of L into disrepute. Even more disrepute than they were in traying to jerrymander the Assisted Dying bill with over a 1000 amendments.
So, if you want a second house, get rid of all the Bishops, all of the hereditary peers, all of the political appointments, and have a second, elected chamber.
I never used to think like this, but I have been pursuaded that the H of L has long passed its sell by date.
Good idea Keir. If only you were, I don’t know, the Prime Minister or something.
And we are only in February, bloody hell I don’t even want to know what the rest of the year is going to be like. The madness of life.