Good, now replace him with someone decent Starmer, the ball’s in your court.
antbaby_machetesquad on
It was inevitable, Starmer needed to try and placate the party with a sacrifice for this debacle, and he was never going to fall on his own sword.
DandyLionsInSiberia on
The purported, ruminations and alleged circling opportunism within labour ranks now leaking into the media are less analysis… more deliberate misfire.
Expecting Starmer to have divined Mandelson’s Epstein baggage mistakes leadership for clairvoyance. Whatever one thinks of Starmer, fairness applies. Mandelson’s Brussels years were competently handled, a study in diplomatic yoga… soothing billionaire egos while serving the national interest.
Mandelson had form… but until Epstein’s emails surfaced, nothing was toxic enough to end his run. To pin this on Starmer now is illogical… faintly hysterical. There is no trail, no association, no political or social osmosis between Starmer and Epstein. This is guilt-by-proxy… reheated for clicks.
The McSweeney resignation already shows how quickly nerves are fraying. Labour should tread carefully. The Conservatives played leadership musical chairs… and we all know how that ended.
What a muddle.
EditorRedditer on
Interesting; if you get the sack, you’re screwed, if you resign there may be a way back in – look at Mandelson.
Let’s see what happens to McSweeney when the next GE looms…
urbanspaceman85 on
Thank fuck for that. Go and get Sue Gray till the end of the season.
FuzzBuket on
Well hopefully with him gone starmer can try to actually have policy that people don’t hate.
That being said this also feels like it could be a prelude to a internal revolt, mcsweeny and streeting ain’t the types to just go be quiet in the back benches.
cchesters on
This all feels like it’s heading for a snap general and a bloody reform government ugh
Bughunter9001 on
If he had anything about him other than naked self interest, he’d have been encouraging Starmer to show some decisiveness and publicly sack him rather than resigning.
And Starmer should have had the strength to sack him instead of spending days humiliating himself before the inevitable occured. Again.
I’d love to think that Starmer could use this as an opportunity to reset and relaunch his government, but I think he’s absolutely woeful at this and he’s going to just ineffectually limp on until he’s forced out in May.
ash_ninetyone on
Whatever skills this guy may have had as a political strategist in the election clearly didn’t translate to government
If he was responsible behind this, it does kinda make me wonder how much else he was responsible for
Electricbell20 on
Lol the previous thread had him staying forever because he knows the secrets.
hereforcontroversy on
We cannot let him anywhere near frontline politics ever again – clearly he is part of “the club”
Any_Association405 on
oh dear, who’s the PM with zero personality going to get to churn out “policy” now then?
Mason_Caorunn on
“Secondly, while I did not oversee the due diligence and vetting process, I believe that process must now be fundamentally overhauled. This cannot simply be a gesture but a safeguard for the future”
McSweeney isn’t ’owning’ Mandy’s appointment so this one isn’t going away!
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ByteSizedGenius on
I always thought he got far, far too much credit for an election Labour would have struggled to lose. Totally beyond his ability to be No10 COS, he has been shocking and glad he’s gone.
jennifersaurus on
Is this enough to keep starmer limping along until the locals in may? Difficult to say. Definitely a lot of celebrating across the country today though.
Dartzap on
Who do they have spare for when the May locals end in chaos?
PangolinOk6793 on
I’m convinced this guy is the main leaker and all around reason the government comms are so poor for their achievements. This is fantastic news
Halfway-Competent on
Sacrificial lamb. Probably no choice for all concerned but I’m not sure it will deflect from the PM as much as he would like.
concretepigeon on
> You couldn’t live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
Sue Gray, probably
AdPale1469 on
so what its meaningless. Hes not going anywhere is he he’ll just be getting another job from blairs labour boys club.
Its the party that is finnished and they do not even know it yet.
Puzzleheaded_Agent17 on
This is the first step now starmer needs to take responsibility for his own decisions and follow him out the door.
Jackthwolf on
I literally just cheered out loud.
I’ve not done that with regards to politics in recent memory.
Good fucking riddance – There’s potential to save labour yet.
Just_Candle_315 on
As a US citizen it’s nuts to see all this fall out from Epstein in other governments. Here in the US people connected to Epstein get promoted to more powerful positions
SwordfishLess3247 on
I wish politics could be more about making our lives better, more affordable and generally just improving things, rather than this nonsense
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Will Starmer last longer than a cauliflower, that is the question
At least one positive from this debacle. He has proven to be a disaster for the Government.
[Not a surprise to anyone who read *this* last year…](https://amzn.eu/d/00OAV7xU)
Good, now replace him with someone decent Starmer, the ball’s in your court.
It was inevitable, Starmer needed to try and placate the party with a sacrifice for this debacle, and he was never going to fall on his own sword.
The purported, ruminations and alleged circling opportunism within labour ranks now leaking into the media are less analysis… more deliberate misfire.
Expecting Starmer to have divined Mandelson’s Epstein baggage mistakes leadership for clairvoyance. Whatever one thinks of Starmer, fairness applies. Mandelson’s Brussels years were competently handled, a study in diplomatic yoga… soothing billionaire egos while serving the national interest.
Mandelson had form… but until Epstein’s emails surfaced, nothing was toxic enough to end his run. To pin this on Starmer now is illogical… faintly hysterical. There is no trail, no association, no political or social osmosis between Starmer and Epstein. This is guilt-by-proxy… reheated for clicks.
The McSweeney resignation already shows how quickly nerves are fraying. Labour should tread carefully. The Conservatives played leadership musical chairs… and we all know how that ended.
What a muddle.
Interesting; if you get the sack, you’re screwed, if you resign there may be a way back in – look at Mandelson.
Let’s see what happens to McSweeney when the next GE looms…
Thank fuck for that. Go and get Sue Gray till the end of the season.
Well hopefully with him gone starmer can try to actually have policy that people don’t hate.
That being said this also feels like it could be a prelude to a internal revolt, mcsweeny and streeting ain’t the types to just go be quiet in the back benches.
This all feels like it’s heading for a snap general and a bloody reform government ugh
If he had anything about him other than naked self interest, he’d have been encouraging Starmer to show some decisiveness and publicly sack him rather than resigning.
And Starmer should have had the strength to sack him instead of spending days humiliating himself before the inevitable occured. Again.
I’d love to think that Starmer could use this as an opportunity to reset and relaunch his government, but I think he’s absolutely woeful at this and he’s going to just ineffectually limp on until he’s forced out in May.
Whatever skills this guy may have had as a political strategist in the election clearly didn’t translate to government
If he was responsible behind this, it does kinda make me wonder how much else he was responsible for
Lol the previous thread had him staying forever because he knows the secrets.
We cannot let him anywhere near frontline politics ever again – clearly he is part of “the club”
oh dear, who’s the PM with zero personality going to get to churn out “policy” now then?
“Secondly, while I did not oversee the due diligence and vetting process, I believe that process must now be fundamentally overhauled. This cannot simply be a gesture but a safeguard for the future”
McSweeney isn’t ’owning’ Mandy’s appointment so this one isn’t going away!
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I always thought he got far, far too much credit for an election Labour would have struggled to lose. Totally beyond his ability to be No10 COS, he has been shocking and glad he’s gone.
Is this enough to keep starmer limping along until the locals in may? Difficult to say. Definitely a lot of celebrating across the country today though.
Who do they have spare for when the May locals end in chaos?
I’m convinced this guy is the main leaker and all around reason the government comms are so poor for their achievements. This is fantastic news
Sacrificial lamb. Probably no choice for all concerned but I’m not sure it will deflect from the PM as much as he would like.
> You couldn’t live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
Sue Gray, probably
so what its meaningless. Hes not going anywhere is he he’ll just be getting another job from blairs labour boys club.
Its the party that is finnished and they do not even know it yet.
This is the first step now starmer needs to take responsibility for his own decisions and follow him out the door.
I literally just cheered out loud.
I’ve not done that with regards to politics in recent memory.
Good fucking riddance – There’s potential to save labour yet.
As a US citizen it’s nuts to see all this fall out from Epstein in other governments. Here in the US people connected to Epstein get promoted to more powerful positions
I wish politics could be more about making our lives better, more affordable and generally just improving things, rather than this nonsense