Can’t even imagine the pain. Families physically attacking the owners, 41 dead, dozens critically burned, all because of one packed nightclub inferno on NYE. Swiss authorities better not sweep this under the rug. Accountability has to come fast.
ArchStantonsGold on
They really deserve to get the book thrown at them.
solstice_gilder on
My friend was there. He narrowly escaped… what a sad situation.
SwissPewPew on
While i totally understand the sentiment, this was not very smart by the families, if they want the accused to get a harsh punishment.
Press smear campaigns (there were a lot of factually false reports about the accused), as well as lynch mob mentality and threats by the families against the accused will unfortunately force (under Swiss law and federal supreme court precedent) the courts to give the accused a (potentially substantial) sentence reduction.
>Above-average media coverage can lead to a prejudgment for the accused. And this, in turn, can be considered a mitigating factor by a court, leading to a corresponding reduction in the sentence. “A media prejudgment can influence the sentence,” says criminal law professor Markwalder. “If the burden of the prejudgment has been very high, the court can take this into account. The trial itself, with intensive media coverage, can be a greater burden than the actual sentence.”
Naive-Muscle-5019 on
>Fire safety inspections had not been carried out since 2019.
:)))
how is this even possible? It’s a mandatory procedure, without which (at least in the countries i know) your establishment won’t be allowed to work.
Who gave permission to work in that buikding?
It’s not the families of the deceased who are going to investigate, right?
i want people to pay attention a little higher than where they are looking, like, ofc, not only owner is the evil guy, there a lot of more who need to be placed into prison
ComprehensiveSurgery on
This is what happens when people lost trust in the justice system. The rich consistently get away with murder knowing that they won’t be held accountable. At one point people start taking matters in their own hands.
JohnR1977 on
their own stupidity is what killed them
Systral on
Sorry maybe insensitive question, but would the fire not have happened if it were for correct following of the yearly inspections? I think having an indoor fire is always a hazard. Did they organise it or was it one of the guests? Is it their responsibility to ask for these inspections or is it something that has to be inquired by the commune/canton? They Def fucked up but I’m not sure whether saying “you killed my son” is accurate. I get the anger and despair though.
Zealousideal_Bid9513 on
The way they are handing this investigation is disgusting.
LaBaguetteSexy on
Nice.
AdOdd4618 on
Everything we’ve learned about this pair is bad.
He has an extensive criminal history.
He did shoddy work himself rather than pay someone competent.
When the fire broke out, rather than usher the customers out of the inferno her husband created, she grabbed the till and ran out the door.
Emergency exits were locked.
And to top it all off, they were receiving housing assistance from the French government while living in Switzerland and driving a Maserati.
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Can’t even imagine the pain. Families physically attacking the owners, 41 dead, dozens critically burned, all because of one packed nightclub inferno on NYE. Swiss authorities better not sweep this under the rug. Accountability has to come fast.
They really deserve to get the book thrown at them.
My friend was there. He narrowly escaped… what a sad situation.
While i totally understand the sentiment, this was not very smart by the families, if they want the accused to get a harsh punishment.
Press smear campaigns (there were a lot of factually false reports about the accused), as well as lynch mob mentality and threats by the families against the accused will unfortunately force (under Swiss law and federal supreme court precedent) the courts to give the accused a (potentially substantial) sentence reduction.
See also [this article](https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/katastrophe-von-crans-montana-das-quasi-oeffentliche-verfahren-kann-tiefere-strafen-bedeuten) “The quasi-public trial can mean lighter sentences.” (in German) published yesterday by Swiss public television, which mentions:
>Above-average media coverage can lead to a prejudgment for the accused. And this, in turn, can be considered a mitigating factor by a court, leading to a corresponding reduction in the sentence. “A media prejudgment can influence the sentence,” says criminal law professor Markwalder. “If the burden of the prejudgment has been very high, the court can take this into account. The trial itself, with intensive media coverage, can be a greater burden than the actual sentence.”
>Fire safety inspections had not been carried out since 2019.
:)))
how is this even possible? It’s a mandatory procedure, without which (at least in the countries i know) your establishment won’t be allowed to work.
Who gave permission to work in that buikding?
It’s not the families of the deceased who are going to investigate, right?
i want people to pay attention a little higher than where they are looking, like, ofc, not only owner is the evil guy, there a lot of more who need to be placed into prison
This is what happens when people lost trust in the justice system. The rich consistently get away with murder knowing that they won’t be held accountable. At one point people start taking matters in their own hands.
their own stupidity is what killed them
Sorry maybe insensitive question, but would the fire not have happened if it were for correct following of the yearly inspections? I think having an indoor fire is always a hazard. Did they organise it or was it one of the guests? Is it their responsibility to ask for these inspections or is it something that has to be inquired by the commune/canton? They Def fucked up but I’m not sure whether saying “you killed my son” is accurate. I get the anger and despair though.
The way they are handing this investigation is disgusting.
Nice.
Everything we’ve learned about this pair is bad.
He has an extensive criminal history.
He did shoddy work himself rather than pay someone competent.
When the fire broke out, rather than usher the customers out of the inferno her husband created, she grabbed the till and ran out the door.
Emergency exits were locked.
And to top it all off, they were receiving housing assistance from the French government while living in Switzerland and driving a Maserati.