That sounds rough honestly. Twelve hours is a long shift for anyone. I get wanting more productivity, but people are going to burn out fast. Work–life balance is already hard enough without adding extra hours every day.
Playwithuh on
How many days a week of work though in Argentina? In U.S many jobs do 12 hour shifts, 40+ hrs a week? I feel like universally the work week should be 30 hours max. But, just my opinion.
TGAILA on
>What makes this matter beyond Argentina is the template: a libertarian president dismantling century-old labor protections, betting desperate workers will accept worse terms for the chance of any terms at all.
How can we fix a struggling economy? One idea is to have people work more hours, which could lead to a big drop in the overall quality of life for workers turning back the clock to 1900.
Stick314 on
Governments dont give a shit about people. Tired people dont protest. And these same governments push the people to have children so they have more workers.
RatioTenebrae on
What did you expect from a libertarian nutjob like Milei?
sub-a-dub-dub on
Trumps bestie is running Argentina. Foreshadowing what could come to the US.
thegooddoktorjones on
Libertarian paradise. AKA the same old masses slaving their lives away for a few aristos.
Gentle_Snail on
Unless you’re living in Frostpunk there seems absolutely zero need for this.
loveiseverything on
I thought Milei was winning BIGLY? Why everything is worse now?
I_Have_A_Nightmare on
Most productivity hours 1-4. 12 hour day is a whole lot of unproductivity on a longer clock. Especially if they are doing this on a 5 day work week.
meglobob on
Do long hours really improve productivity?
I reckon they may have the opposite effect and probably reduce quality as well.
jwalker2112 on
Libertarians saying the quiet part out loud. Theoretically the “free market” should let employers set lower working hours if they see fit, but they know that everyone will push it, so instead of removing the cap altogether, they just expand it. Remember this when they claim Libertarian ideals, or how if they could just remove a few government protections everything would be better for everyone. Their own actions don’t reflect their ideals because they know they’re bullshit
copytac on
Yeah that won’t lead to instability or anything…
loud_and_harmless on
7 days a week? Why stop there and just make the workers work from sun up to sun down?
apathetic_revolution on
Or they could hire additional employees to work those hours since only 45% of the working age population is employed.
Just a suggestion.
ThaPhantom07 on
If they ever mandated 12 hour work shifts im just not working. What would even be the point at that point? 8 pushes it most of the time. Anything past that and your life is no longer your own.
Royal_Annek on
BuT wHy ArEnT pEoPLe HaViNg ChiLdReN
Talinn_Makaren on
I’m not working 12 hours a day I can tell you that right now.
StrongFaithlessness5 on
Within 15 years they will complain the birth rate has dropped.
roylewill on
Guys relax they aren’t forcing everyone to work 12 hours every day, read past the headline for once in your lives you illiterates. They’re allowing up to 12-hour shifts by *redistributing* hours (within the weekly cap) and letting some overtime be paid back as time off later instead of cash. If that arrangement sucks, nobody is being forced to agree to it. It isn’t a mandatory 12-hours-a-day decree.
Wyzzlex on
They don’t raise work shifts to 12 hours in general, they just allow shifts to be 12 hours long (as opposed to the current maximum of 8 hours).
PMmeyourSchwifty on
I’m gonna be honest. If I start work at 8am and work straight through, I’m pretty useless starting around 2pm.
If I take a lunch break around that time, I can maybe squeeze another 30 mins of solid productivity after my meal. Mostly, I’m fried by then. Thankfully, I work from home so I don’t need to fake looking busy. But, shit, man. I’m fucking wiped out at the end of my days.
ErgoMachina on
Shifts can go as far as 12 hours, but it has to be compensated by shorter ones.
This is literally disinformation but unfortunately it’s too late. The hive mind of clueless redditors from the US, who basically have no working rights at all, already decided this is bad.
Catchafire2000 on
People are not robots/machines built for this.
lainjahno on
Guys come on, at least read the f’ing article before commenting or insulting Milei.
They aren’t making it mandatory, just making it legal, with a weekly hour cap. This is something normal in many countries.
realthraxx on
This is a stupid, biased title. The law makes it so that certain activities (like people in oil&gas or other jobs with longer shifts, air pilots and stewards, emergency doctors) can work within a legal framework and not as exceptions. It doesn’t mean regular people will work longer shifts, it just makes it so those activities that have to do that because of efficiency are able to do so legally instead of being in a quasi-legal status. In practice, this already happens with those people working longer shifts but then having more days off than a regular employee.
But it’s easier to shit on stuff based on a title rather than reading and developing an informed opinion.
ytze on
they’re gonna enjoy the fascism they voted for.
blondie1024 on
Can’t see this going down too well in BA.
Expect mass protests.
Psyclist80 on
Well strike that country off the visit list
notn on
What next? Removal of child labor laws?
ariphron on
See this is the America the current administration wants! They look at what some of these other countries are getting away with and want to do that here.
Melodic-Comb9076 on
….wait, for the same pay?
either way, it’s baffling me.
Aristosophy on
sad to see south american countries still suffer from american interventionism.
lrargerich3 on
Missleading article.
There is an 48 hours per week limit today and that stands.
The change is that you might work 12hrs on some day if you agree that with your employeer, always keeping the 48hs per week limit.
It makes the distribution of the 48 hours more flexible and that is all.
Lancashire_Toreador on
But but but I thought completely unregulated capitalism had already brought the entire country out of poverty overnight and everyone had a pony!
Material_Policy6327 on
Funny how libertarian ideals always turn into worse outcomes
MostJudgment3212 on
Billionaires and hustlers sold the society on this “always on” mindset, conveniently omitting the fact that work for them means sending emails once in a while from their mobile phone and having numerous prolonged breaks in between.
BlizzWizzzz on
“Why is nobody having kids”
aReasonableSnout on
Lol they voted for chainsaw guy, hope they are very happy
TexasBrett on
This is such bullshit. At some point the world needs to revolt against the powers that be. The western world has basically been stuck on a 40 hour work week for over a century now (give or take a few countries that have shaved off 4 or so hours). Individual productivity has increased exponentially thanks to technology. An engineer would spend a week hand calculating what I can calculate in minutes.
We should be reducing the work week and giving people more free time. Life is short. Should be a max 32 hour work week.
kobrakai1034 on
How’s that libertarian bullshit working out down there?
Lord_Darkmerge on
As someone who works 12hrs only in part.of the year, I can tell you its brutal and no one should be forced to work this much. Optional, and well compensated is good but anything less is exploitation
--DrunkGoblin-- on
I’m and adult Argentinian millennial, all of my friends who have remote jobs work for companies based outside this country because every single fucking Argentinian job offers a pretty low salary, the economy is in ruins.
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That sounds rough honestly. Twelve hours is a long shift for anyone. I get wanting more productivity, but people are going to burn out fast. Work–life balance is already hard enough without adding extra hours every day.
How many days a week of work though in Argentina? In U.S many jobs do 12 hour shifts, 40+ hrs a week? I feel like universally the work week should be 30 hours max. But, just my opinion.
>What makes this matter beyond Argentina is the template: a libertarian president dismantling century-old labor protections, betting desperate workers will accept worse terms for the chance of any terms at all.
How can we fix a struggling economy? One idea is to have people work more hours, which could lead to a big drop in the overall quality of life for workers turning back the clock to 1900.
Governments dont give a shit about people. Tired people dont protest. And these same governments push the people to have children so they have more workers.
What did you expect from a libertarian nutjob like Milei?
Trumps bestie is running Argentina. Foreshadowing what could come to the US.
Libertarian paradise. AKA the same old masses slaving their lives away for a few aristos.
Unless you’re living in Frostpunk there seems absolutely zero need for this.
I thought Milei was winning BIGLY? Why everything is worse now?
Most productivity hours 1-4. 12 hour day is a whole lot of unproductivity on a longer clock. Especially if they are doing this on a 5 day work week.
Do long hours really improve productivity?
I reckon they may have the opposite effect and probably reduce quality as well.
Libertarians saying the quiet part out loud. Theoretically the “free market” should let employers set lower working hours if they see fit, but they know that everyone will push it, so instead of removing the cap altogether, they just expand it. Remember this when they claim Libertarian ideals, or how if they could just remove a few government protections everything would be better for everyone. Their own actions don’t reflect their ideals because they know they’re bullshit
Yeah that won’t lead to instability or anything…
7 days a week? Why stop there and just make the workers work from sun up to sun down?
Or they could hire additional employees to work those hours since only 45% of the working age population is employed.
Just a suggestion.
If they ever mandated 12 hour work shifts im just not working. What would even be the point at that point? 8 pushes it most of the time. Anything past that and your life is no longer your own.
BuT wHy ArEnT pEoPLe HaViNg ChiLdReN
I’m not working 12 hours a day I can tell you that right now.
Within 15 years they will complain the birth rate has dropped.
Guys relax they aren’t forcing everyone to work 12 hours every day, read past the headline for once in your lives you illiterates. They’re allowing up to 12-hour shifts by *redistributing* hours (within the weekly cap) and letting some overtime be paid back as time off later instead of cash. If that arrangement sucks, nobody is being forced to agree to it. It isn’t a mandatory 12-hours-a-day decree.
They don’t raise work shifts to 12 hours in general, they just allow shifts to be 12 hours long (as opposed to the current maximum of 8 hours).
I’m gonna be honest. If I start work at 8am and work straight through, I’m pretty useless starting around 2pm.
If I take a lunch break around that time, I can maybe squeeze another 30 mins of solid productivity after my meal. Mostly, I’m fried by then. Thankfully, I work from home so I don’t need to fake looking busy. But, shit, man. I’m fucking wiped out at the end of my days.
Shifts can go as far as 12 hours, but it has to be compensated by shorter ones.
This is literally disinformation but unfortunately it’s too late. The hive mind of clueless redditors from the US, who basically have no working rights at all, already decided this is bad.
People are not robots/machines built for this.
Guys come on, at least read the f’ing article before commenting or insulting Milei.
They aren’t making it mandatory, just making it legal, with a weekly hour cap. This is something normal in many countries.
This is a stupid, biased title. The law makes it so that certain activities (like people in oil&gas or other jobs with longer shifts, air pilots and stewards, emergency doctors) can work within a legal framework and not as exceptions. It doesn’t mean regular people will work longer shifts, it just makes it so those activities that have to do that because of efficiency are able to do so legally instead of being in a quasi-legal status. In practice, this already happens with those people working longer shifts but then having more days off than a regular employee.
But it’s easier to shit on stuff based on a title rather than reading and developing an informed opinion.
they’re gonna enjoy the fascism they voted for.
Can’t see this going down too well in BA.
Expect mass protests.
Well strike that country off the visit list
What next? Removal of child labor laws?
See this is the America the current administration wants! They look at what some of these other countries are getting away with and want to do that here.
….wait, for the same pay?
either way, it’s baffling me.
sad to see south american countries still suffer from american interventionism.
Missleading article.
There is an 48 hours per week limit today and that stands.
The change is that you might work 12hrs on some day if you agree that with your employeer, always keeping the 48hs per week limit.
It makes the distribution of the 48 hours more flexible and that is all.
But but but I thought completely unregulated capitalism had already brought the entire country out of poverty overnight and everyone had a pony!
Funny how libertarian ideals always turn into worse outcomes
Billionaires and hustlers sold the society on this “always on” mindset, conveniently omitting the fact that work for them means sending emails once in a while from their mobile phone and having numerous prolonged breaks in between.
“Why is nobody having kids”
Lol they voted for chainsaw guy, hope they are very happy
This is such bullshit. At some point the world needs to revolt against the powers that be. The western world has basically been stuck on a 40 hour work week for over a century now (give or take a few countries that have shaved off 4 or so hours). Individual productivity has increased exponentially thanks to technology. An engineer would spend a week hand calculating what I can calculate in minutes.
We should be reducing the work week and giving people more free time. Life is short. Should be a max 32 hour work week.
How’s that libertarian bullshit working out down there?
As someone who works 12hrs only in part.of the year, I can tell you its brutal and no one should be forced to work this much. Optional, and well compensated is good but anything less is exploitation
I’m and adult Argentinian millennial, all of my friends who have remote jobs work for companies based outside this country because every single fucking Argentinian job offers a pretty low salary, the economy is in ruins.
That’s the opposite of the ways should be going