I think he’s gonna get a reality check on election day. I refuse to believe anyone will vote for this shit.
Edit: On second thought, does this not contradict the line I hear spouted from reform often; “Don’t have kids if you can’t afford them”. Which one is it?
Every-Progress-1117 on
Explicitly anti-women party….this isn’t going to be enough to stop people voting for these I am very sad to say.
BrockChocolate on
I’m still unsure whether Reform have let themselves be filled with nutters when they were desperate for candidates or they are actively recruiting mentalists
RedTruck500 on
I think teaching sex education is a good thing
Teaching how fertility declines after a certain age is reasonable.
There are many couples I know that waited to their mid to late thirties to try and have kids who are facing fertility issues now.
People should be aware of the tradeoffs when delaying having kids
Why is it that everything Reform candidates say so.. repressive?
0ttoChriek on
These people spend so much time thinking about what’s going on inside children’s underwear.
Striking_Smile6594 on
For year my generation had it beaten into us that we shouldn’t have children until we where able to look after them and that the greatest scroungers where those who had kids they couldn’t aford.
Well we took that message seriously and people now wring their hands that birth rates are down.
Revolutionary-Mode75 on
An people on twitter are now wondering why the polls think the election is now down to Labour or the Greens according to the bookies.
StandardNerd92 on
Maybe he needs an economic reality check, nobody can effing afford to have kids with house prices, inflation, cost of living and the graduate tax emptying their accounts. Who’s gonna pay for it?
SoulStuckInAthens on
I am not a fucking breeding machine and I will not be reduced to such.
In fact, Farage quite literally hates disabled people like me even daring to exist in his country. And he wants women like me to give kids because we owe it to them? Even though they’ll probably get my fucked up genetics?
Fat chance.
dewittless on
The deep irony of wanting a biological reality check from someone I bet can’t even name most parts of a woman’s reproductive system.
HMWYA on
Is now a good time to mention that the extreme focus on transphobia, and making sure everyone is defined by their biology from birth, has been leading to this inevitable misogynistic conclusion where women exist purely to breed, and that the removal of healthcare for trans people is opening the door to further attacks against bodily autonomy, including abortion rights? The societal acceptance of transphobia has been an absolute dream for the patriarchy, and a large number of people are only going to discover this when it’s far too late.
-Soggy-Potato- on
> Mr Goodwin previously suggested imposing a “negative child benefit tax” on “those who don’t have offspring”
> Mr Goodwin also appeared to agree with the host’s claim that universities have become hotbeds of “politically correct authoritarianism” because they are full of “childless women”.
Given the demonisation of women engaging in higher education and the undertones of incentivised *incubation* I wonder what he’s trying to gradually imply here
Canipaywithclaps on
You can tell no women are ever consulted by this party.
Women have the ‘biological clock’ anxiety shoved down their throat from a relatively young age, we are well aware.
That’s NOT why fertility is declining
LordLucian on
I cannot fathom why anyone would vote for these detestable ball bags.
The silence from them on the epstein files should tell us everything
Head-Chair3055 on
I think people will vote for them but I know the more they speak about wider issues (not immigration) the more voters they will lose. I can’t see any party having a majority
Plundermot on
Surely low birth rates are a good thing – I thought Reform’s problem with immigration was simply that the country was full? Or are they finally admitting that it’s actually racism?
hoopjoness on
If you have keep chickens you’ll know that when there’s a violent rooster the hens lay less eggs, are under chronic stress and all he does is eat all the food for himself and fight with other males.
Although it’s daft I see a sort of parallel with the decline in birth rates and level of political instability in our world tbh
ZookeepergameOk2759 on
It’s almost like they don’t want to be elected,maybe there’s more money in being the opposition,still the morons will lap it up.
Hot_Chocolate92 on
I’m well aware of my biology. I just can’t afford to give a child the upbringing I believe a child deserves. How will reform do anything to sort that?
Stevey1001 on
Men trying to dictate what women should be doing with their bodies. Yet more Americanisation of UK politics.
F**k off with your male entitlement
changhyun on
Previously I wasn’t having kids because I’m broke and I think I’d be a bad parent but after seeing this I’ve decided I’m not having kids specifically to spite this guy.
TheCharalampos on
Keep Reform candidates far far away from young girls.
soothysayer on
One step closer to US imported Christian nationalism. Give it a couple of years
Necrodancer90 on
They want people to have kids but they also don’t want to support people after they have kids so who in their right mind would?
Vivid_Employment8635 on
Loads of people having kids who don’t really want them and aren’t really suited for it is just going to lead to multiple generations of fucked up adults. Especially with what Reform will probably do to any form of support for those who are struggling.
No_Cauliflower_81 on
Something that made childcare slightly easier was the advance of work from home, which Farage just came out against. They want people to have more kids while simultaneously making it harder for people to spend more time raising them.
Dismal_Foundation_23 on
Reform dont give a crap about this offending young women as really they dont give a crap about their vote.
The boomers lap this sort of shit up and sadly young people dont vote enough to balance out the boomers who will fall for this crap.
All the countries problems can be blamed on immigrants, women, young people and the old people will all fall for this.
Glittering_Habit_161 on
It wasn’t bad to have children in your late 30s twenty years ago. Why should women, even women who are infertile, be unfairly treated because of it? What a way to undermine the Equality Act. Dictator much? I’m going to work overtime if they actually get in.
Noonecanseemenow on
So let me get this straight…
Women need to have children younger.
Women shouldn’t have children when they can’t afford them.
Reform want to reduce minimum wage and workers rights.
Reform want the two child benefit cap.
Reform don’t want working from home.
It’s almost as if Reform don’t have any real policies/objectives or aims and are just barking out talking points to get a few votes.
Durzel on
Part of me _loves_ the fact that this is something they can’t control. Practically everything else about a person’s life they can suppress, restrict and make harder, but they _need_ women to decide to have children. They can’t force them to do it.
And by children I of course mean a generation of minimum wage slaves who will consume the products these elites are producing or invested in.
It’s such a basic thing but it rubs right up against all the capitalist driven systems that only benefit the well off and the wealthy. Young people can’t afford a stable roof over their heads, have no chance of affording one alone on a median salary, yet they’re supposed to – obliged to even, to hear some talk – disregard all of that and have children anyway.
And on top of that the ultra-elites like Musk and co who don’t shut up about it want them to do that whilst making stuff like WFH that would actually support having children go away. They talk about women as if they are chattel, their only use & value is as breeding vessels for the next generation.
I mean population decline isn’t great in the abstract, but the elites only have themselves to blame for taking everything away from the young.
Gueld on
Creepy political party that has had a shocking number of sexual assault charges per member, and a leader who is besties with one of the most mentioned abusers in the Epstein files. Reform is a bit obsessed with young girls too much.
loonongrass on
Matt Goodwin is scared of educated women with opinions and wants to pressure them to become baby making machines.
fsfaith on
Shocking no one that these filth would target young girls.
Scoobilatchi on
Young girls…young girls…..guys head is full of ideas that will help him avoid the urge to think about young girls.
PigeonBod on
Create a system that requires everyone to work in order to make the rich richer. Get mad when people stop having children so they can instead survive and enrich the ruling class.
Holiday_Cat_7284 on
Once again, women can’t win. If we have children we can’t afford, with no roof over their heads, we’re benefits scroungers. If we have them late or not at all, we’re destroying the planet. Honestly, f**k men and especially male right wing politicians.
Calm_seasons on
Are we going to fix the horrendous housing situation this country has, so parents can provide housing? – NO
Are we going to fix salaries so people can save and have spare money? – NO
Are we going to give longer paternity leave than a shitty 2 weeks unpaid so that dad’s can be active parents in their kids lives? – NO
Are we going to fix the shitty maternity leave of £187.18 or 90% of earnings (whichever is lower? – NO
Are we going to fix childcare costs costing over £1k a month to be a second mortgage/rent payment a month? – NO
Are we going to berate women for being “failures”? – YES
Well done Reform why fix any of the economic or social reasons for adults not having kids and instead blame it on women. Sure you’re sad you couldn’t blame foreigners in some way.
RomanBlue_ on
Politicians and private interests who made almost every aspect of raising kids unfeasible still blames you for not wanting kids because they need human fuel to continue helping the people making everything worse.
Fantastic. Who’s in the Epstein files again?
throwaway260211 on
i would remove my childless womb and replace it with a vinyl player if i could
FullTweedJacket on
What an absolute fucking weapon.
Maybe, just maybe, if years of brain-damaged, right wing, neo-liberal policies hadn’t cut services and made life so expensively unpleasant for the majority of people, more of the population might have had children sooner?
Nah, let’s just promote a party led by a man who wants to continue to turn life into a cyberpunk dystopia so him, his friends and his shady fucking donors can asset-strip the working class and line their own pockets. Because fuck everyone if it means your bottom line goes up, right?
Don’t worry, after all the mouth-breathing cattle vote Reform into power, the evangelical lobbying from the US will pay off and they’ll crack down on abortion rights to get that birth rate shooting straight back up.
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I think he’s gonna get a reality check on election day. I refuse to believe anyone will vote for this shit.
Edit: On second thought, does this not contradict the line I hear spouted from reform often; “Don’t have kids if you can’t afford them”. Which one is it?
Explicitly anti-women party….this isn’t going to be enough to stop people voting for these I am very sad to say.
I’m still unsure whether Reform have let themselves be filled with nutters when they were desperate for candidates or they are actively recruiting mentalists
I think teaching sex education is a good thing
Teaching how fertility declines after a certain age is reasonable.
There are many couples I know that waited to their mid to late thirties to try and have kids who are facing fertility issues now.
People should be aware of the tradeoffs when delaying having kids
I bet if they could afford to settle down, buy a home etc. they might have kids earlier – although, the average age of parent’s has trended upwards gradually since the mid 1970s – [https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/birthcharacteristicsinenglandandwales/2022](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/birthcharacteristicsinenglandandwales/2022)
Why is it that everything Reform candidates say so.. repressive?
These people spend so much time thinking about what’s going on inside children’s underwear.
For year my generation had it beaten into us that we shouldn’t have children until we where able to look after them and that the greatest scroungers where those who had kids they couldn’t aford.
Well we took that message seriously and people now wring their hands that birth rates are down.
An people on twitter are now wondering why the polls think the election is now down to Labour or the Greens according to the bookies.
Maybe he needs an economic reality check, nobody can effing afford to have kids with house prices, inflation, cost of living and the graduate tax emptying their accounts. Who’s gonna pay for it?
I am not a fucking breeding machine and I will not be reduced to such.
In fact, Farage quite literally hates disabled people like me even daring to exist in his country. And he wants women like me to give kids because we owe it to them? Even though they’ll probably get my fucked up genetics?
Fat chance.
The deep irony of wanting a biological reality check from someone I bet can’t even name most parts of a woman’s reproductive system.
Is now a good time to mention that the extreme focus on transphobia, and making sure everyone is defined by their biology from birth, has been leading to this inevitable misogynistic conclusion where women exist purely to breed, and that the removal of healthcare for trans people is opening the door to further attacks against bodily autonomy, including abortion rights? The societal acceptance of transphobia has been an absolute dream for the patriarchy, and a large number of people are only going to discover this when it’s far too late.
> Mr Goodwin previously suggested imposing a “negative child benefit tax” on “those who don’t have offspring”
> Mr Goodwin also appeared to agree with the host’s claim that universities have become hotbeds of “politically correct authoritarianism” because they are full of “childless women”.
Given the demonisation of women engaging in higher education and the undertones of incentivised *incubation* I wonder what he’s trying to gradually imply here
You can tell no women are ever consulted by this party.
Women have the ‘biological clock’ anxiety shoved down their throat from a relatively young age, we are well aware.
That’s NOT why fertility is declining
I cannot fathom why anyone would vote for these detestable ball bags.
The silence from them on the epstein files should tell us everything
I think people will vote for them but I know the more they speak about wider issues (not immigration) the more voters they will lose. I can’t see any party having a majority
Surely low birth rates are a good thing – I thought Reform’s problem with immigration was simply that the country was full? Or are they finally admitting that it’s actually racism?
If you have keep chickens you’ll know that when there’s a violent rooster the hens lay less eggs, are under chronic stress and all he does is eat all the food for himself and fight with other males.
Although it’s daft I see a sort of parallel with the decline in birth rates and level of political instability in our world tbh
It’s almost like they don’t want to be elected,maybe there’s more money in being the opposition,still the morons will lap it up.
I’m well aware of my biology. I just can’t afford to give a child the upbringing I believe a child deserves. How will reform do anything to sort that?
Men trying to dictate what women should be doing with their bodies. Yet more Americanisation of UK politics.
F**k off with your male entitlement
Previously I wasn’t having kids because I’m broke and I think I’d be a bad parent but after seeing this I’ve decided I’m not having kids specifically to spite this guy.
Keep Reform candidates far far away from young girls.
One step closer to US imported Christian nationalism. Give it a couple of years
They want people to have kids but they also don’t want to support people after they have kids so who in their right mind would?
Loads of people having kids who don’t really want them and aren’t really suited for it is just going to lead to multiple generations of fucked up adults. Especially with what Reform will probably do to any form of support for those who are struggling.
Something that made childcare slightly easier was the advance of work from home, which Farage just came out against. They want people to have more kids while simultaneously making it harder for people to spend more time raising them.
Reform dont give a crap about this offending young women as really they dont give a crap about their vote.
The boomers lap this sort of shit up and sadly young people dont vote enough to balance out the boomers who will fall for this crap.
All the countries problems can be blamed on immigrants, women, young people and the old people will all fall for this.
It wasn’t bad to have children in your late 30s twenty years ago. Why should women, even women who are infertile, be unfairly treated because of it? What a way to undermine the Equality Act. Dictator much? I’m going to work overtime if they actually get in.
So let me get this straight…
Women need to have children younger.
Women shouldn’t have children when they can’t afford them.
Reform want to reduce minimum wage and workers rights.
Reform want the two child benefit cap.
Reform don’t want working from home.
It’s almost as if Reform don’t have any real policies/objectives or aims and are just barking out talking points to get a few votes.
Part of me _loves_ the fact that this is something they can’t control. Practically everything else about a person’s life they can suppress, restrict and make harder, but they _need_ women to decide to have children. They can’t force them to do it.
And by children I of course mean a generation of minimum wage slaves who will consume the products these elites are producing or invested in.
It’s such a basic thing but it rubs right up against all the capitalist driven systems that only benefit the well off and the wealthy. Young people can’t afford a stable roof over their heads, have no chance of affording one alone on a median salary, yet they’re supposed to – obliged to even, to hear some talk – disregard all of that and have children anyway.
And on top of that the ultra-elites like Musk and co who don’t shut up about it want them to do that whilst making stuff like WFH that would actually support having children go away. They talk about women as if they are chattel, their only use & value is as breeding vessels for the next generation.
I mean population decline isn’t great in the abstract, but the elites only have themselves to blame for taking everything away from the young.
Creepy political party that has had a shocking number of sexual assault charges per member, and a leader who is besties with one of the most mentioned abusers in the Epstein files. Reform is a bit obsessed with young girls too much.
Matt Goodwin is scared of educated women with opinions and wants to pressure them to become baby making machines.
Shocking no one that these filth would target young girls.
Young girls…young girls…..guys head is full of ideas that will help him avoid the urge to think about young girls.
Create a system that requires everyone to work in order to make the rich richer. Get mad when people stop having children so they can instead survive and enrich the ruling class.
Once again, women can’t win. If we have children we can’t afford, with no roof over their heads, we’re benefits scroungers. If we have them late or not at all, we’re destroying the planet. Honestly, f**k men and especially male right wing politicians.
Are we going to fix the horrendous housing situation this country has, so parents can provide housing? – NO
Are we going to fix salaries so people can save and have spare money? – NO
Are we going to give longer paternity leave than a shitty 2 weeks unpaid so that dad’s can be active parents in their kids lives? – NO
Are we going to fix the shitty maternity leave of £187.18 or 90% of earnings (whichever is lower? – NO
Are we going to fix childcare costs costing over £1k a month to be a second mortgage/rent payment a month? – NO
Are we going to berate women for being “failures”? – YES
Well done Reform why fix any of the economic or social reasons for adults not having kids and instead blame it on women. Sure you’re sad you couldn’t blame foreigners in some way.
Politicians and private interests who made almost every aspect of raising kids unfeasible still blames you for not wanting kids because they need human fuel to continue helping the people making everything worse.
Fantastic. Who’s in the Epstein files again?
i would remove my childless womb and replace it with a vinyl player if i could
What an absolute fucking weapon.
Maybe, just maybe, if years of brain-damaged, right wing, neo-liberal policies hadn’t cut services and made life so expensively unpleasant for the majority of people, more of the population might have had children sooner?
Nah, let’s just promote a party led by a man who wants to continue to turn life into a cyberpunk dystopia so him, his friends and his shady fucking donors can asset-strip the working class and line their own pockets. Because fuck everyone if it means your bottom line goes up, right?
Don’t worry, after all the mouth-breathing cattle vote Reform into power, the evangelical lobbying from the US will pay off and they’ll crack down on abortion rights to get that birth rate shooting straight back up.