Some councils pay a fee to some businesses to provide a toilet with public access but they don’t advertise them sufficiently. I once worked at a business that would have dozens of members of the public use their toilets daily, yet there was another business opposite that was paid the sum to provide public access, yet nobody knew and wouldn’t go there..
FornyHucker22 on
I’d never just walk into some independent cafe for the loo’s and not even buy something small.
chains like McDonald’s tho not a problem
MultiMidden on
Bloody self-entitled freeloaders, I swear it has got worse, help out the cafe owner and just buy a fucking packet of crisps or a cake or can of coke, toilets cost money to provide!
I’ve needed the loo on the way home from the pub on many an occassion and I’ve used pub toilets and I’ve **always** bought something whether it’s another pint or a coke.
Clarac94 on
Can we actually prioritise decent public facilities like toilets again to prevent this issue?
parkchanwookiee on
I’m sure it’s infuriating but the anger should be directed at councils that can’t operate public facilities, it’s disgraceful that civilised areas have people running out of options to relieve themselves with dignity
FlabbyShabby on
Why does our supposedly modern, First World country have such few public toilets? and why are most of the few public toilets that we have covered in grafitti, vandalised, deliberately soiled & not open when needed?
Lienidus1 on
Being in central London with a pregnant wife was a nightmare, public toilets are nearly never sign posted and so hard to find. Also you need to pay in many places though I understand they probably do that to keep it from being a drug den but there’s a lot of homeless or mentally unwell people and I’ve seen them defecating in the street.
Voodoopulse on
I’d rather go for a system of paid toilets like they often have in mainland Europe, at least you know they are always clean
curious-scouse on
Look, if your little cafe toilet is looking like a nightclub toilet and it’s affecting your customers experience I understand, but this is just another example of society collectively losing their fucking minds.
Let people go to the fucking toilet if they need it. Making a big deal about it will have a bigger negative impact on most people’s businesses than just letting them use the fucking toilet.
johnaross1990 on
~~Fella~~ Dame needs to stick a code on the door that prints out on the receipt
Edit: my bad, I only read the title and it’s a small thumbnail
XB1CandleInTheDark on
It’s a shame because it is a nice cafe and Sarah has her name on other small places like Sarah’s Burgers near the bus station (I’m assuming it is the same Sarah) that someone else runs, so she puts a lot of effort into providing food as an independent business and yeah I can very easily sympathise with drawing a line when someone walks in with a starbucks cup just to use the loo. Especially when the library (open most days) and the market (every day except monday) are within a couple minute walk.
Diastrous_Lie on
Her local council won’t do anything to help.
But they will be down on her like a tonne of bricks now to investigate whether there is overflow between the footfall of the toilets and hygiene of the cafe.
In central London, the major chains like Starbucks stink of the toilet if you sit at the tables on the path to the toilet.Â
Homeless people seem to live in cafe toilets and smoke in there.
I have seen commuters slipping into the toilets together for a bit of double cream
Whenever I need to use the toilet in a cafe
I feel like I’m going to be hospitalised.
But we really don’t want the return of public toilets like a lot of people are saying in this thread. They are probably too young to remember how dodgy public toilets were and how much they stank
brus_wein on
I always make a small purchase, maybe a biscuit or a bottle of water or something. Just waltzing in is uncivilised.
Obi-Scone on
“This facility does not have a toilet for the public. Here is a small card with the local councillors contact details on it, so you can complain about the lack of public loos.”
BlueFungus458 on
The parish council closed the public conveniences (building converted to business premises and rented out) and on their website suggest using the toilet at the nearest Tescos.
I think this is cheeky.
Mr_XcX on
Free public toilets needed. Essential for communities and tourism. Especially in Highlands etc.
Sir_Bantersaurus on
Part of the reason businesses are reluctant to let people use their bathrooms is the same reason councils don’t provide more of them; people don’t treat them with respect.
I can’t believe the conditions the toilets are in when I go to use them at a restaurant, shopping center or elsewhere that isn’t my own at home. People piss on the floor, on the seats, and toilet paper is strewn everywhere, they don’t flush.
bulldog_blues on
The two key takeaways here are:
1) Not enough public toilets
2) A not-insignificant portion of the population love to vent their frustration and abuse someone who isn’t responsible for the situation
Both are big problems throughout the country.
culturedgoat on
Oh I know that guy. He also does a legal advice call-in show on LBC
ash_ninetyone on
I remember when Costa put a keypad on the toilet door that required you to have a receipt.
I feel that would really be the only way to reinforce that.
I know people who just walk straight into the local boozer for the toilet and then out. I couldn’t do that without at least buying something
But I also feel in certain areas this is an accessibility problem of a lack of public toilets, or at least a lack of toilets in public buildings where this wouldn’t be frowned upon, unlike a private business.
For some areas, I get why. My local park had the toilets closed and then repurposed because they were very unclean, used for drugs, used for casual sex. The building was renovated and repurposed (though sits vacant atm, since Covid killed the cafe that opened there). But that is now a park without a lav.
If you’re caught short, and there’s nothing around, what other choice would you have other than to try and hold it in hope of either getting somewhere first, having the charity of others, or finding somewhere very discreet, trying to be a respectful at least as possible by idk… against a tree or a drain, and hoping you don’t get collared.
Consistent-Pirate-23 on
The worst situation is having a bowel or bladder condition and not looking like you have anything wrong with you.
People like this guy are my worst nightmare
JoeyJoJoeJr_Shabadoo on
>”It’s the rudeness and the righteousness of people who just think they can walk in.
>”Would I walk into your house and barge in your toilet?”
It’s not your house though is it Sarah
Legal-One-7274 on
I’ve pooed in Southampton but I’ve never pooed in Scunthorpe. Tiny tempeh probably
Vexxxiang on
I work round the corner from there. It’s disgraceful. People barge into my shop all the time and piss and crappie on the floor. It’s got to the point t I lock the door and only unlock it when a paying customer asks me directly. Even had to have those blue anti drug lights installed the amount of empty drug bottles and needles found
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Some councils pay a fee to some businesses to provide a toilet with public access but they don’t advertise them sufficiently. I once worked at a business that would have dozens of members of the public use their toilets daily, yet there was another business opposite that was paid the sum to provide public access, yet nobody knew and wouldn’t go there..
I’d never just walk into some independent cafe for the loo’s and not even buy something small.
chains like McDonald’s tho not a problem
Bloody self-entitled freeloaders, I swear it has got worse, help out the cafe owner and just buy a fucking packet of crisps or a cake or can of coke, toilets cost money to provide!
I’ve needed the loo on the way home from the pub on many an occassion and I’ve used pub toilets and I’ve **always** bought something whether it’s another pint or a coke.
Can we actually prioritise decent public facilities like toilets again to prevent this issue?
I’m sure it’s infuriating but the anger should be directed at councils that can’t operate public facilities, it’s disgraceful that civilised areas have people running out of options to relieve themselves with dignity
Why does our supposedly modern, First World country have such few public toilets? and why are most of the few public toilets that we have covered in grafitti, vandalised, deliberately soiled & not open when needed?
Being in central London with a pregnant wife was a nightmare, public toilets are nearly never sign posted and so hard to find. Also you need to pay in many places though I understand they probably do that to keep it from being a drug den but there’s a lot of homeless or mentally unwell people and I’ve seen them defecating in the street.
I’d rather go for a system of paid toilets like they often have in mainland Europe, at least you know they are always clean
Look, if your little cafe toilet is looking like a nightclub toilet and it’s affecting your customers experience I understand, but this is just another example of society collectively losing their fucking minds.
Let people go to the fucking toilet if they need it. Making a big deal about it will have a bigger negative impact on most people’s businesses than just letting them use the fucking toilet.
~~Fella~~ Dame needs to stick a code on the door that prints out on the receipt
Edit: my bad, I only read the title and it’s a small thumbnail
It’s a shame because it is a nice cafe and Sarah has her name on other small places like Sarah’s Burgers near the bus station (I’m assuming it is the same Sarah) that someone else runs, so she puts a lot of effort into providing food as an independent business and yeah I can very easily sympathise with drawing a line when someone walks in with a starbucks cup just to use the loo. Especially when the library (open most days) and the market (every day except monday) are within a couple minute walk.
Her local council won’t do anything to help.
But they will be down on her like a tonne of bricks now to investigate whether there is overflow between the footfall of the toilets and hygiene of the cafe.
In central London, the major chains like Starbucks stink of the toilet if you sit at the tables on the path to the toilet.Â
Homeless people seem to live in cafe toilets and smoke in there.
I have seen commuters slipping into the toilets together for a bit of double cream
Whenever I need to use the toilet in a cafe
I feel like I’m going to be hospitalised.
But we really don’t want the return of public toilets like a lot of people are saying in this thread. They are probably too young to remember how dodgy public toilets were and how much they stank
I always make a small purchase, maybe a biscuit or a bottle of water or something. Just waltzing in is uncivilised.
“This facility does not have a toilet for the public. Here is a small card with the local councillors contact details on it, so you can complain about the lack of public loos.”
The parish council closed the public conveniences (building converted to business premises and rented out) and on their website suggest using the toilet at the nearest Tescos.
I think this is cheeky.
Free public toilets needed. Essential for communities and tourism. Especially in Highlands etc.
Part of the reason businesses are reluctant to let people use their bathrooms is the same reason councils don’t provide more of them; people don’t treat them with respect.
I can’t believe the conditions the toilets are in when I go to use them at a restaurant, shopping center or elsewhere that isn’t my own at home. People piss on the floor, on the seats, and toilet paper is strewn everywhere, they don’t flush.
The two key takeaways here are:
1) Not enough public toilets
2) A not-insignificant portion of the population love to vent their frustration and abuse someone who isn’t responsible for the situation
Both are big problems throughout the country.
Oh I know that guy. He also does a legal advice call-in show on LBC
I remember when Costa put a keypad on the toilet door that required you to have a receipt.
I feel that would really be the only way to reinforce that.
I know people who just walk straight into the local boozer for the toilet and then out. I couldn’t do that without at least buying something
But I also feel in certain areas this is an accessibility problem of a lack of public toilets, or at least a lack of toilets in public buildings where this wouldn’t be frowned upon, unlike a private business.
For some areas, I get why. My local park had the toilets closed and then repurposed because they were very unclean, used for drugs, used for casual sex. The building was renovated and repurposed (though sits vacant atm, since Covid killed the cafe that opened there). But that is now a park without a lav.
If you’re caught short, and there’s nothing around, what other choice would you have other than to try and hold it in hope of either getting somewhere first, having the charity of others, or finding somewhere very discreet, trying to be a respectful at least as possible by idk… against a tree or a drain, and hoping you don’t get collared.
The worst situation is having a bowel or bladder condition and not looking like you have anything wrong with you.
People like this guy are my worst nightmare
>”It’s the rudeness and the righteousness of people who just think they can walk in.
>”Would I walk into your house and barge in your toilet?”
It’s not your house though is it Sarah
I’ve pooed in Southampton but I’ve never pooed in Scunthorpe. Tiny tempeh probably
I work round the corner from there. It’s disgraceful. People barge into my shop all the time and piss and crappie on the floor. It’s got to the point t I lock the door and only unlock it when a paying customer asks me directly. Even had to have those blue anti drug lights installed the amount of empty drug bottles and needles found