Young people out of work, training and education edges closer to one million
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I’ve got family with this problem and there seems to be a huge number around the country including family who can’t drive, can’t get a job without driving, can’t afford the lessons without a job and have no solution to this catch-22. An access to driving program that connects people to lessons, pays for the lessons and is repaid when the learner has gotten a job from their driving ability growth would be a massive improvement compared to the current situation.
Maybe if we increase national insurance on companies even more it will solve this
The UK government is “desperate” to get people into work yet does nothing at all to actually help them
What did you all expect? If you outsource all your industries and employ cheap labour so you don’t have to train anyone up then what do you think the inevitable consequence would be?
NEET this NEET that. Some 2010 nostalgia posting from the BBC today.
There’s about 750k job vacancies in the UK at the moment, so they can’t all work and that’s not taking into account the other 800k out of work.Â
Also at the same time as this people seem intent on sending disabled people back to work, even if they can’t and that’s millions more.Â
This is the reason a welfare state exists as full employment is not practical or in fact desirable under our economic system. (It is with Keynesianism).Â
Driving is so expensive, public transport is either expensive or crap, living out is expensive, paying back student loans is increasingly daunting, you’re either over- or under-qualified, there are hundreds of applicants per job, AI is taking entry-level jobs, management treats starters like crap…
I am an Oxford grad and I have more uni mates without jobs than I have friends in full-time employment. It’s insane and I don’t know a way to fix it.
War. That’ll cut those numbers.
Why do you think the politicals are so keen on war and AI ?
You could always make mass outsourcing illegal or extremely high tax … take thousands if not millions of jobs out of the UK by greedy execs who want to maximise profits by hiring people in third world countries. No only does it make the job harder as the people absolutely lack decent training it’s literally destroying the economy.
It’s not a new problem, but has been getting worse. I had to leave the UK at 19 and I’ve not been back full-time ever since (now 30 ish). I couldn’t bring myself to be on the dole waiting for a job to come, so maxed out my credit card and left Â
Just bring back the Resident Labour Market Test for all work visas. If a job can be filled here, it shouldn’t be filled from abroad.
The government is rushing through emergency rules to prioritise UK medical graduates but restoring the Labour Market Test would do that automatically, for all UK graduates.
Right now immigration policy seems designed around what suits employers and boosts tax receipts, not what’s best for the existing population.
perhaps we should begin with the million young people we already have here right now. Thats enough people to build the economy and so on right there
A lot of people here are bringing up cars, on every job I look at they ask about driving, as if that’s relevant to stacking shelfs in tescos. The bar to finding work is too high. IMO employers have had it too good for too long.
Lack of car is one of the least pressing reasons. That’s a ridiculously car brained answer. Anyone that lives in reasonable sized town or city will have plenty access to public transport, cycling and walking.
Spends years learning something for a career while amassing huge amounts of debt.
No chance of a job after leaving as some AI can do the job 1000x more efficiently.
This number will continue to rise if all the blame continues to be put on those trying to find a job instead of recognising the issues with the job market and lack of quality job creation.
They’re all looking at a system they don’t want to be a part of. That’s the problem.
The actual number is far higher than this and doesn’t mention the disparity between men and women
I have sympathy for a lot. But I also have someone I know who has plenty of opportunity yet just does nothing with their lives.
Simple retail job came up less than 10 mins walking distance. They didnt bother to apply.
When I worked in retail I got them a job as a winter temp. They didnt keep it as they kept calling in sick to work with no symptoms other than feeling tired.
They dont do anything with their life other than play video games.
So I do have sympathy because I know public transportation and lack of mobility makes it very hard to get jobs.
I know jobs expect experience and you cant get experience unless you have a job most times. But equally, volunteering exists, open uni free courses exist. There are pathways. They dont always work. But there is a minority that just chooses to give up on living any kind of life.
For those people I have very, very little sympathy. I am also aware thats a minority of people. But it is a reality that some people just done engage and havent.
If you got nearly a million 18-24s, out of work and 700k jobs available and half of them aren’t real, or have zero hour contracts attached to them, then how does a normal person or even disabled person stand a chance of getting a job?
The government is going to face massive backlash when it tries to force disabled people in jobs that don’t exist.
We are importing workers rather than training our young, maybe charge higher business national insurance rates for employees from abroad if businesses are keen to avoid training so badly they should be hit in the pocket to do this
The Social Contract has been broken and employment is no longer financially fulfilling for young people.
If you don’t have Parents that can pay for the vast majority of your expenses Post-16, You’re going to miss out on a *lot* and it’s not getting easier, especially for young people.
You don’t get an entry level job to pay anything but your rent. Then you decide which pills to pay and which to ignore for the month.
Driving and Insurance are massive hurdles for people, too. Getting on the road takes time and stacks of cash.
How can that possibly be true?! The government increased NIC employment taxes, business rates and the minimum wage. For growth. Starmer has full confidence in everything and everyone. They must be mistaken.
 I just had a phone interview with an AI agent.. this country is finishedÂ
Add me to the list I just lost my software job to AI 🤣
That’s not so bad, there’s more than 13 million old people out of work
You notice traveling in Europe service industry jobs in uk are done by adults as career thing. While in Europe majority of service jobs are still done by students and teenagers as first entry job.
I don’t think it’s solely down to immigration or outsourcing in some industries. There’s definitely something we’re doing that Europe doesn’t
I’m a young person in a catch-22 where I have a chronic illness so I can’t work, but the government axed chronic illness specialists in my area to save money so we have no idea what I have. I also can’t move because I’d lose access to another specialist I’m with and obviously landlords don’t like to take on tenants on benefits. I do everything I can to keep my home and life above water, and make a little income here and there from side gigs. No idea what they want me to do.
Im willing to bet a large portion of those have been utterly ignored by the tokenistic services available from the nhs mental health teams.
Literally the most you can get is a few sessions of CBT which is great if you haven’t got complex trauma and are neurotypical, but god forbid you arent because they’ll gaslight the living hell out of you into making you think you’re just not trying hard enough rather than the truth being they just can’t help.
I went on UC and they forced me to do a course for a job. I did the course and got the job. The job gives me 3-5 shifts per month.Â
I’m still looking for another job but no luck. Been there 5 months. Technically I’m in work but 3-5 days per month is fuck all. I want more shifts.Â
Most of my colleagues got the job through UC as well and are in the same situation. My question is are we even included in these metrics? Or are we considered to be in employment? Because if you factor in all the terrible jobs like mine the rate will likely be a lot higher.Â
Completely different topic by the way. Training in companies is wild now from my experience only doing temporary contracts.
It’s all online training videos, I rarely see any actual physical training nowadays, and if I do it’s always the bare minimum before you’re tossed into the fire.
Usually you’d think the theory and practical go hand in hand, but it seems unlikely unless you’re in a trade as the humans/practical aspect has been thrown out lol.
I’ve also seen an uptick in unpaid work for younger people to supposedly get their foot through the door as something nice for your CV.
I’ll be honest it really seems like the system is crazy. Gotta do the bare minimum for the maximum efficiency and I remember discussing this with my local council and I was told: **This is just how it works now** with nothing new to add other than that one response to criticism.
Nobody seems to want to take accountability, and yet they’re the ones making these decisions and shutting down any avenue for change. Effectively railroading us all into train that plummets off a cliff.
And if you mention that maybe you should change course they’ll say: **This is just how it is, do what we tell you to do…**
And don’t even get me started on these people and how they manipulate data to make themselves look good at the expense of the very people they’re getting payed to help.
And god forbid you point that out. Because you’ll then be a problem they’ll want to hammer next. Again everything just seems crazy to me.
Better off on benefits you’ll never own a home anyway
The hospitality loss is definitely part of it… if people can’t afford to go out to bars and restaurants, then those places can’t afford to pay more staff to work there.. so if drinks and meals weren’t so expensive, more people would go out and more jobs would be created, but the rich obviously doesn’t want that
My company proudly anounced their AI usage in marketing. All upper management looked delighted about how much it will save them in man-hours. Greedy twats will get what’s coming to them.
Stop pulling the ladder up from young people then. No housing, no jobs. Fuck our government
I run a small business and my wife runs another one. I employed 1, she employed 2.
We now employ no-one and I help her out when I can. She has one freelancer come for a day every week or two.
Costs are too high now. Business rates, rent, NI etc. We’ve have to cut back and low-skilled jobs are the first to go.
Start reducing the retirement age instead of raising it, release some of those jobs back into the work place