Well no expert but “Deutsches Reich” was it called between 1871 and 1945.
DerZappes on
The part that baffles me is that the eagle distinctly looks like the version we got after 1945, but at that time, the country wasn’t called “Deutsches Reich” anymore. I guess it’s close enough to the Reichsadler as it was depicted in the 1920s, so that’s possibly the time frame you are looking for, but if I had seen that combination of eagle and country name in a meme or so I would probably have commented that it must be fake…
Airwhynn501 on
1919-1933
Late-Bison-2087 on
Looks like it belongs to the Weimar era.
Alllllaa on
In the short time of allied occupation, the occupied territories of Germany were still part of the German Reich. Passports from that era still had “German Reich” in them, just as Geburtsurkunden, IDs etc.
So my guess is 1945-1949. Simply because the Bundesadler is there.
1924-1936 to be precise. Weimar to early Third Reich. This one was introduced in1924 replacing the state ones (Saxony, Prussia etc) until 1936 when the eagle was replaced by eagle and swastika.
IAMFRAGEN on
Weimar era, i.e. (1918)1921-1933. What’s causing confusion is the “Deutsches Reich” with what appears to be a post-war Bundessiegel (eagle; it’s not the “Bundesadler”). The Bundessiegel was, however, designed by Sigmund von Weech in 1921 and used in official papers to the end of the Weimar Republic. It was reintroduced after the war as the Dienstsiegel of the FRG.
Relative-Pattern-282 on
“Deutsches Reich” was used from 1871 to 1945, but that eagle style and print design look more like interwar or early 1930s period, roughly 1920s to late 1930s. Hard to be exact without inside pages.
MorpheusLaw92 on
It could be either an 1871 or 1919 version of the Reichsadler. But i’d say it’s the 1919 version, since the feathers are closed and the eagle doesn’t have a crown. On top i have a feeling your Grandpa didn’t reach the age of roughly 150 years (considering you just found this in his stuff i’d assume he died recently. My condolences, no matter if my assumption is true or not🙏)
I have my father’s Reisepass which is identical to this one. It was issued May 6, 1935 by the NYC German Consulate for their return trip to Germany. It has my grandmother and her two children(one my father). It is in pristine condition.
AntonioHench1 on
Looks like a Weimar Republic one. Later, i think 1936, the Nazis replaced the „Reichs-/Bundesadler“ with a Swastika
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Well no expert but “Deutsches Reich” was it called between 1871 and 1945.
The part that baffles me is that the eagle distinctly looks like the version we got after 1945, but at that time, the country wasn’t called “Deutsches Reich” anymore. I guess it’s close enough to the Reichsadler as it was depicted in the 1920s, so that’s possibly the time frame you are looking for, but if I had seen that combination of eagle and country name in a meme or so I would probably have commented that it must be fake…
1919-1933
Looks like it belongs to the Weimar era.
In the short time of allied occupation, the occupied territories of Germany were still part of the German Reich. Passports from that era still had “German Reich” in them, just as Geburtsurkunden, IDs etc.
So my guess is 1945-1949. Simply because the Bundesadler is there.
Weimar time, 1919-1933
https://www.ca-collecting.com/shop/de/weimarer-republik-1919-1933/reisepass-deutsches-reich-76796.html
1924-1936 to be precise. Weimar to early Third Reich. This one was introduced in1924 replacing the state ones (Saxony, Prussia etc) until 1936 when the eagle was replaced by eagle and swastika.
Weimar era, i.e. (1918)1921-1933. What’s causing confusion is the “Deutsches Reich” with what appears to be a post-war Bundessiegel (eagle; it’s not the “Bundesadler”). The Bundessiegel was, however, designed by Sigmund von Weech in 1921 and used in official papers to the end of the Weimar Republic. It was reintroduced after the war as the Dienstsiegel of the FRG.
“Deutsches Reich” was used from 1871 to 1945, but that eagle style and print design look more like interwar or early 1930s period, roughly 1920s to late 1930s. Hard to be exact without inside pages.
It could be either an 1871 or 1919 version of the Reichsadler. But i’d say it’s the 1919 version, since the feathers are closed and the eagle doesn’t have a crown. On top i have a feeling your Grandpa didn’t reach the age of roughly 150 years (considering you just found this in his stuff i’d assume he died recently. My condolences, no matter if my assumption is true or not🙏)
Here are some links for reference:
German national symbol evolution:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/heraldry/comments/5yjsiu/evolution_of_the_german_eagle/?tl=de](https://www.reddit.com/r/heraldry/comments/5yjsiu/evolution_of_the_german_eagle/?tl=de)
Official german government website about the evolution of the the national symbol:
[https://www.bundestag.de/webarchiv/textarchiv/2016/kw33-bundesadler-434166](https://www.bundestag.de/webarchiv/textarchiv/2016/kw33-bundesadler-434166)
I have my father’s Reisepass which is identical to this one. It was issued May 6, 1935 by the NYC German Consulate for their return trip to Germany. It has my grandmother and her two children(one my father). It is in pristine condition.
Looks like a Weimar Republic one. Later, i think 1936, the Nazis replaced the „Reichs-/Bundesadler“ with a Swastika
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