Nature or nurture for UK far right in the older generation?
Praying for some cold winters.
Suspicious-Soil-2348 on
I don’t think it’s a very good idea to split up the party Bündnis 90 into two parts. Especially, the 50:50 is a random choice made by the designer.
ETA: The text under the graph is also not a beautiful data representation. It’s just a subjectiv evaluation of the parties, which is not related to the data visualisation or backed by data.
Charlem912 on
Don’t know how it’s in the UK but in Germany Greens and DemSoc(Linke) are very different from each other, not sure why someone would put them into the same group
StickyThickStick on
As a German it’s crazy to put the greens into the same bracket as the left.
The left party „die linke“ is relatively big but they’re really far left compared to the greens. They want democratic socialism and have very radical members.
-p-e-w- on
“It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative, without changing their mind.”
People don’t become more conservative as they age. Most people don’t change their views at all during their lifetime. It’s the world around them that redefines what those labels mean, causing the same beliefs to be retroactively reclassified.
Low_Cut_368 on
Oooo the scary “far right” 😱
elbay on
Not even the young Germans are left leaning enough.
It’s so joever for us.
ThengarMadalano on
The center-right and center-left is doing hard work to lose voters in Germany, laying cards for their political decisions would yield better results. But how many young people vote for Nazis is really concerning
maestrchief on
Why is green-left in two different colours?
alrae70 on
Quite an extreme comment to say Labour has authoritarian streaks around online censorship.
Is not wanting 10 year olds to be able to see strangulation porn or perverts make AI pictures of 8 year olds in bikini authoritarian?
urbanmember on
German “liberals” in this case are the FDP and they care not as much about personal freedoms as their name or ideology would imply, they mainly care about a very childish, very libertarian interpretation of economics and usually just piss money away for temporary tax gifts for their biggest donors
SPD, Greens and die Linke care more about Personal liberties than the FDP any day of the week
Also bundling lefts and greens together does not work very well in germany because die Linke sees the greens as centrist at best and straight up fascist at the worst even though both parties have many goals in common
Moaoziz on
“German FDP which is basically just a pro-rich party with very thin veneer of social liberalism. […]
German SPD does not have authoritarian streaks of Labour regarding online censorship”
Nicely fits the old saying about the generational divide: “If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative when old, you have no brain”.
PAY_DAY_JAY on
My guess is that people’s political leanings are learned and adhered to from a fairly young age. People don’t change whereas the goalposts of each political party does. Basically every party gets more liberal leaning over time (as an average) and that’s why it’s just a linear trend going from liberal to conservative as people get older.
Sassi7997 on
Why did they combine the Left and the Greens for Germany?
Prodigle on
I don’t like the use of “liberal” here. It’s very US-centric for data on Europe
csgotraderino on
Thank you u/Weirdo9495 I am guessing you are trans?
![[OC] Adjusted comparison of UK and German political leanings by age brackets](https://www.byteseu.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/dzw17wh0lzlg1.jpeg "[OC] Adjusted comparison of UK and German political leanings by age brackets")
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Sources:
UK
[https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/53923-how-would-britain-vote-at-the-start-of-2026](https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/53923-how-would-britain-vote-at-the-start-of-2026)
Germany
[https://dawum.de/](https://dawum.de/)
[https://www.tagesschau.de/wahl/archiv/2025-02-23-BT-DE/umfrage-alter.shtml](https://www.tagesschau.de/wahl/archiv/2025-02-23-BT-DE/umfrage-alter.shtml)
Tools used: Excel, Gimp.
Nature or nurture for UK far right in the older generation?
Praying for some cold winters.
I don’t think it’s a very good idea to split up the party Bündnis 90 into two parts. Especially, the 50:50 is a random choice made by the designer.
ETA: The text under the graph is also not a beautiful data representation. It’s just a subjectiv evaluation of the parties, which is not related to the data visualisation or backed by data.
Don’t know how it’s in the UK but in Germany Greens and DemSoc(Linke) are very different from each other, not sure why someone would put them into the same group
As a German it’s crazy to put the greens into the same bracket as the left.
The left party „die linke“ is relatively big but they’re really far left compared to the greens. They want democratic socialism and have very radical members.
“It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative, without changing their mind.”
People don’t become more conservative as they age. Most people don’t change their views at all during their lifetime. It’s the world around them that redefines what those labels mean, causing the same beliefs to be retroactively reclassified.
Oooo the scary “far right” 😱
Not even the young Germans are left leaning enough.
It’s so joever for us.
The center-right and center-left is doing hard work to lose voters in Germany, laying cards for their political decisions would yield better results. But how many young people vote for Nazis is really concerning
Why is green-left in two different colours?
Quite an extreme comment to say Labour has authoritarian streaks around online censorship.
Is not wanting 10 year olds to be able to see strangulation porn or perverts make AI pictures of 8 year olds in bikini authoritarian?
German “liberals” in this case are the FDP and they care not as much about personal freedoms as their name or ideology would imply, they mainly care about a very childish, very libertarian interpretation of economics and usually just piss money away for temporary tax gifts for their biggest donors
SPD, Greens and die Linke care more about Personal liberties than the FDP any day of the week
Also bundling lefts and greens together does not work very well in germany because die Linke sees the greens as centrist at best and straight up fascist at the worst even though both parties have many goals in common
“German FDP which is basically just a pro-rich party with very thin veneer of social liberalism. […]
German SPD does not have authoritarian streaks of Labour regarding online censorship”
As a German I’d say that both these statements are wrong (or at least written with an extreme bias). For example during the Scholz chancellorship it was the [SPD that wanted to bring back data retention laws but couldn’t because it was mainly opposed (with some support from the Green party) by the FDP-led Ministry of Justice](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/vorratsdatenspeicherung-streit-zwischen-nancy-faeser-und-marco-buschmann-das-letzte-gefecht-a-a40e4da8-7086-4941-8dfd-04570ebb745d) and now the [SPD calls for social media ban for children under 14](https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/spd-positionspapier-social-media-verbot-100.html).
Nicely fits the old saying about the generational divide: “If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative when old, you have no brain”.
My guess is that people’s political leanings are learned and adhered to from a fairly young age. People don’t change whereas the goalposts of each political party does. Basically every party gets more liberal leaning over time (as an average) and that’s why it’s just a linear trend going from liberal to conservative as people get older.
Why did they combine the Left and the Greens for Germany?
I don’t like the use of “liberal” here. It’s very US-centric for data on Europe
Thank you u/Weirdo9495 I am guessing you are trans?