They lose one inconsequential by-election and immediately pivot to ‘how can we rig it in our favour going forward?’
It’s all very Trumpian. Not that I’m surprised.
hoopjoness on
Can people please wake up now. This guy is Trump 2.0 – he’s a complete danger to our country. Not even in power (let alone opposition) and has his shadow cabinet, now threatening to fuck with our democracy
In March there’s the rycroft report which will show his involvement with Russian crypto donations – not sure how he’s going to spin that.
All of his foreign policy is just doing whatever Trump wants
In the Epstein files, Bannon talks about how he was advising Farage, le pen, AfD and Victor Orban.
Le pen has a trial in July for Russian donations, AfD just got caught sending Russia state secrets and Orban is just obviously Russian asset.
How much more evidence do we need that this guy is a traitor? He disrupts our democracy, lies to us and manipulates his voters into becoming increasingly racist so they’ll vote for him
“under Reform UK’s plans this would be limited to the elderly, disabled, serving armed forces personnel and those working overseas during an election.”
All of these groups excluding the disabled are more likely to vote for right wing parties.
ShittyGovernance on
Desperate. So so desperate to blame anything over than his Reformation Tory Party and their policies.
If he was in power and this didn’t work, he’d restrict the vote further. No way can he be trusted with the levers of power. We’d be handing over democracy at the same time
SP1570 on
“laughing stock”
Interesting that “patriots” always need to diss their own country in order to promote their agenda…
mzhal on
So election day will be made a national holiday to ensure those who cannot make it to the polling booth due to work will be accommodated. Right? Right?!
Olimellors1964 on
Does he have one idea or policy that’s not been copied from the GOP playbook?
Jolly_Psychology_506 on
Such a 🔔end. It’s actually embarrassing now. Brits won’t buy into this BS like it’s worked in the states. Remember this twat sold us Brexit. That’s cost every single family ££££ in the UK.
Ill_Conversation6145 on
If we let these monsters into power they won’t give it back when they’ve wrecked all our lives.
Emotional-Ebb8321 on
Given that you already have to show your passport (or other ID document) to vote, and there are routine checks to ensure that non UK citizens can’t be entered into the general election register to vote in the first place, I’m curious how he thinks non UK citizens are currently able to vote.
UnlikelyRabbit4648 on
This kind of cult always follows the same playbook, you can call it the maga playbook these days – I guess it originates with Nazis.
AlfredsChild on
It’s a bit of a joke that we have continued to allow Commonwealth entitlement to vote in our general election. They simply shouldn’t be eligible. It’s bizarre that an international student from India, Nigeria or wherever else can rock up to study and simultaneously vote for who will be the next PM. It’s a colonial hangover, it lacks any sort of reciprocity (British citizens don’t receive the same entitlement abroad) and it’s reducing the voting power of genuine British citizens.
buffetite on
Isnt it already the case that only British citizens can vote? Having ILR doesn’t give you a vote.
blahblah567433785434 on
friendly American UK resident here.
This shit is cancer. Cut it out before it grows.
Adorable-Fault-5116 on
You know it’s sort of mad that politicians even get a say or opinion on how voting works, given that manipulating this is one of their most powerful fulcrums into power. Who gets to vote, how they get to vote, but also how voting it structured (FPTP vs whatever), should all be independent of politicians.
It’s obviously a who watches the watches problem, but still.
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Jeffuk88 on
Why are so many people against limiting voting to citizens? If youre a centrist or leftist you have to knee jerk to everything farage says. Maybe if the mainstream listened to the more reasonable ideas we wouldnt be in this mess.
For the record, my wife is not a citizen but can vote since shes Canadian. Neither of us think she should be able to but obviously she’ll use her vote since its there. Personally, I think anyone with ILR should be given the vote but you shouldnt get the vote because youre a citizen of a historical empire
MCMLIXXIX on
I don’t think I’ve seen a dummy being spat out as hard as this in a while. It looks really amateurish, maybe an easy job in the us but here they just seem to be getting laughed at.
I am surprised farage hasnt been on twitter demanding a holiday in be burnt down.
GradeAffectionate157 on
Only British citizens voting is how it should have been anyway???
Pen_dragons_pizza on
Hold on, so polls are already not limited to British citizens ?
Surely the baseline requirement is that you are a British citizen to decide what happens in the country
Past_Humor8321 on
Reform supporters will mistreat anyone whom they think looks like a Muslim – anyone with dark skin and has a beard.
Cynadote on
Why is limiting votes to British citizens even remotely controversial? Why do people from the Commonwealth get a say in the UK general elections? It’s so simple: either you are a citizen and you get to vote, or you are not and you don’t get a vote. What is up with this fetish of the West of giving people who aren’t even citizens in your country voting power?
Chill_Cat_004 on
For the comments who don’t seem to realize.
Farage is a bellend. But *a lot* of foreigners who are not citizens in this country *can* vote in all of our elections.
A student from Canada, Pakistan, India, Nigeria, any commonwealth country. Can turn up tomorrow and vote as long as they register an address.
And it’s all of our elections. Local elections, general elections, it doesn’t matter.
*This is not normal.* It’s not the case in most other countries. Almost everywhere else does only allow citizens to vote. That should be the norm. I don’t like him but I believe it should be citizen only too.
Why should Jess the student from Australia or Ebuka, who is not a British citizen, from Nigeria have the same amount of say in our elections as British citizens do, when they have the ability to just bugger off home in a year or two without consequence if the thing they voted for ends up being shit? Barring in mind we don’t get to just go vote in their elections in the same way.
Like… see past blind hatred for a second.
AwareInstruction7809 on
Such a disgusting man the amount of damage he’s done to this country is remarkable and his team of clapping seals continue to support him.
Fast_Apple_2237 on
I’d limit the vote so that people who have moved their tax affairs abroad don’t get to vote, take part in political life, or fund political parties.
chaircardigan on
Why are people who aren’t British citizens allowed to vote at the moment? Genuine question. It seems perfectly sensible that only British citizens can vote in UK elections. What’s the reasoning behind the current system?
gompgo on
No other country allows non citizens/ long term residents to vote, why should Britain?
Passing-Through-2330 on
Take away the hysteria from all the liberal luvvies around this and it’s actually pretty reasonable.
If you want to stay in this country long-term, have a say over who governs it and have a claim on its resources, you need to commit to being here long-term and apply for citizenship. Otherwise, you’re a guest, staying here on visas. That’s actually a totally rational point of view to take. If anything, it’s wild to suggest people living here as non citizens SHOULDN’T have the right to vote removed.
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They lose one inconsequential by-election and immediately pivot to ‘how can we rig it in our favour going forward?’
It’s all very Trumpian. Not that I’m surprised.
Can people please wake up now. This guy is Trump 2.0 – he’s a complete danger to our country. Not even in power (let alone opposition) and has his shadow cabinet, now threatening to fuck with our democracy
In March there’s the rycroft report which will show his involvement with Russian crypto donations – not sure how he’s going to spin that.
All of his foreign policy is just doing whatever Trump wants
In the Epstein files, Bannon talks about how he was advising Farage, le pen, AfD and Victor Orban.
Le pen has a trial in July for Russian donations, AfD just got caught sending Russia state secrets and Orban is just obviously Russian asset.
How much more evidence do we need that this guy is a traitor? He disrupts our democracy, lies to us and manipulates his voters into becoming increasingly racist so they’ll vote for him
https://youtu.be/2aS-DRM3yu8?si=1KBwR1CDJmMDUyIb
“under Reform UK’s plans this would be limited to the elderly, disabled, serving armed forces personnel and those working overseas during an election.”
All of these groups excluding the disabled are more likely to vote for right wing parties.
Desperate. So so desperate to blame anything over than his Reformation Tory Party and their policies.
If he was in power and this didn’t work, he’d restrict the vote further. No way can he be trusted with the levers of power. We’d be handing over democracy at the same time
“laughing stock”
Interesting that “patriots” always need to diss their own country in order to promote their agenda…
So election day will be made a national holiday to ensure those who cannot make it to the polling booth due to work will be accommodated. Right? Right?!
Does he have one idea or policy that’s not been copied from the GOP playbook?
Such a 🔔end. It’s actually embarrassing now. Brits won’t buy into this BS like it’s worked in the states. Remember this twat sold us Brexit. That’s cost every single family ££££ in the UK.
If we let these monsters into power they won’t give it back when they’ve wrecked all our lives.
Given that you already have to show your passport (or other ID document) to vote, and there are routine checks to ensure that non UK citizens can’t be entered into the general election register to vote in the first place, I’m curious how he thinks non UK citizens are currently able to vote.
This kind of cult always follows the same playbook, you can call it the maga playbook these days – I guess it originates with Nazis.
It’s a bit of a joke that we have continued to allow Commonwealth entitlement to vote in our general election. They simply shouldn’t be eligible. It’s bizarre that an international student from India, Nigeria or wherever else can rock up to study and simultaneously vote for who will be the next PM. It’s a colonial hangover, it lacks any sort of reciprocity (British citizens don’t receive the same entitlement abroad) and it’s reducing the voting power of genuine British citizens.
Isnt it already the case that only British citizens can vote? Having ILR doesn’t give you a vote.
friendly American UK resident here.
This shit is cancer. Cut it out before it grows.
You know it’s sort of mad that politicians even get a say or opinion on how voting works, given that manipulating this is one of their most powerful fulcrums into power. Who gets to vote, how they get to vote, but also how voting it structured (FPTP vs whatever), should all be independent of politicians.
It’s obviously a who watches the watches problem, but still.
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Why are so many people against limiting voting to citizens? If youre a centrist or leftist you have to knee jerk to everything farage says. Maybe if the mainstream listened to the more reasonable ideas we wouldnt be in this mess.
For the record, my wife is not a citizen but can vote since shes Canadian. Neither of us think she should be able to but obviously she’ll use her vote since its there. Personally, I think anyone with ILR should be given the vote but you shouldnt get the vote because youre a citizen of a historical empire
I don’t think I’ve seen a dummy being spat out as hard as this in a while. It looks really amateurish, maybe an easy job in the us but here they just seem to be getting laughed at.
I am surprised farage hasnt been on twitter demanding a holiday in be burnt down.
Only British citizens voting is how it should have been anyway???
Hold on, so polls are already not limited to British citizens ?
Surely the baseline requirement is that you are a British citizen to decide what happens in the country
Reform supporters will mistreat anyone whom they think looks like a Muslim – anyone with dark skin and has a beard.
Why is limiting votes to British citizens even remotely controversial? Why do people from the Commonwealth get a say in the UK general elections? It’s so simple: either you are a citizen and you get to vote, or you are not and you don’t get a vote. What is up with this fetish of the West of giving people who aren’t even citizens in your country voting power?
For the comments who don’t seem to realize.
Farage is a bellend. But *a lot* of foreigners who are not citizens in this country *can* vote in all of our elections.
A student from Canada, Pakistan, India, Nigeria, any commonwealth country. Can turn up tomorrow and vote as long as they register an address.
And it’s all of our elections. Local elections, general elections, it doesn’t matter.
*This is not normal.* It’s not the case in most other countries. Almost everywhere else does only allow citizens to vote. That should be the norm. I don’t like him but I believe it should be citizen only too.
Why should Jess the student from Australia or Ebuka, who is not a British citizen, from Nigeria have the same amount of say in our elections as British citizens do, when they have the ability to just bugger off home in a year or two without consequence if the thing they voted for ends up being shit? Barring in mind we don’t get to just go vote in their elections in the same way.
Like… see past blind hatred for a second.
Such a disgusting man the amount of damage he’s done to this country is remarkable and his team of clapping seals continue to support him.
I’d limit the vote so that people who have moved their tax affairs abroad don’t get to vote, take part in political life, or fund political parties.
Why are people who aren’t British citizens allowed to vote at the moment? Genuine question. It seems perfectly sensible that only British citizens can vote in UK elections. What’s the reasoning behind the current system?
No other country allows non citizens/ long term residents to vote, why should Britain?
Take away the hysteria from all the liberal luvvies around this and it’s actually pretty reasonable.
If you want to stay in this country long-term, have a say over who governs it and have a claim on its resources, you need to commit to being here long-term and apply for citizenship. Otherwise, you’re a guest, staying here on visas. That’s actually a totally rational point of view to take. If anything, it’s wild to suggest people living here as non citizens SHOULDN’T have the right to vote removed.