Reminds me of the old story when Alexander the Great met Diogenes.
A: “Do you fear me?”
D: “Are you good or evil?”
A: “Good, of course”
D: “Why should I fear a good man?”
sfffer on
Wow. This is very new rhetoric for a European power.
Sloth_Triumph on
Wow, this is like what Americans would say if they had any self awareness.
oxxcccxxo on
Is the world pro nuclear proliferation now?
No_Conversation_9325 on
Unfortunately humanity is so damn stupid allowing insatiable power hungry monsters into power, that it had to come to this.
Gentle_Snail on
I can already see the r/2westerneurope4u post about this.
KomradeCumojedica on
finally…so long as it’s not just rhetoric, of course
Zdzisiu on
Fuck yeah. You want peace, preper for war.
DaySecure7642 on
Very similar to the American “peace through strength”, but more aggressive with the word “fear”.
eravulgaris on
Good. It’s unfortunate that this is needed in 2026, but it’s necessary.
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He’s right. EU isn’t feared yet.
TWVer on
It is deeply unfortunate that it is needed, but without the US being an unconditional backstop for peace in Europe, this is the path forward.
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Traroten on
“it is much safer to be feared than loved because …love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.” ― Niccolo Machiavelli
Odd-Future1037 on
Welcome to reality.
KanedaSyndrome on
Fully support this.
ganbaro on
Based and reality pilled.
I criticize France a lot on rEurope, but I gotta admit, they are one of the nations that actually work hard for European autonomy. If we achieve it, its in part thanks to them.
VastoLords on
*Si vis pacem, para bellum.*
“If you want peace, prepare for war” – having strong army is necessary for peace.
KP6fanclub on
“We strongly codemn” – 0 deterence
“Nuclear sub pops up at your coast” – sorry, sorry, we will be good now.
Petrak1s on
Macron has always been the one who gets it. Maybe not everyone would agree with him on various topics but he gets it.
Zeitcon on
We will continue to speak softly, while carrying a nuclear stick.
dGFisher on
Like geese
fuckinghonkkong on
La France fuck yeah
Edit, he’s afraid of civil servants ten years from retirement
AgentulBlond007 on
For sure!
Terrible_Theme_6488 on
I wish the UK had carried on with a truly independent detterent.
Yes i know, operationally independent already but if the US eithdrew servicing they would not be operational for very long
some_where_else on
Interestingly, and unlike e.g. the UK, France has an ‘escalate to de-escalate’ nuclear strategy – they will drop a ‘little’ nuke on you just to let you know they are serious.
Macron has his flaws, but I love his somewhat aggressive pan-European stance. Hope this continues. The era of Berlusconi’s and Merkels is truly over and I’m glad that EU is finally seeing this.
PeachyBums on
“If you want peace, prepare for war” – Rome Total War loading screen
thelvhishow on
Until an idiot is in power…
Edexote on
Fucking Macron. I’ll vote for you as President of the European Federation!
Shiny_Noodle5 on
*”People ask, do you want to be feared or loved? Both. I want them to fear how much they love me” Michael Scott*
PostOakJoe on
Macron is auditioning for his next job!
Vaperwear on
He’s right you know.
Throwawayconcern2023 on
Good.
yeeyeedong9159 on
Dang it why can’t we just get along:(
HopefulFriendly on
This is the basic argument that causes every power in the world to want nuclear weapons; you can’t be anti-proliferation and simultaneously say that the only way to ensure your own existance is to have nuclear weapons
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Reminds me of the old story when Alexander the Great met Diogenes.
A: “Do you fear me?”
D: “Are you good or evil?”
A: “Good, of course”
D: “Why should I fear a good man?”
Wow. This is very new rhetoric for a European power.
Wow, this is like what Americans would say if they had any self awareness.
Is the world pro nuclear proliferation now?
Unfortunately humanity is so damn stupid allowing insatiable power hungry monsters into power, that it had to come to this.
I can already see the r/2westerneurope4u post about this.
finally…so long as it’s not just rhetoric, of course
Fuck yeah. You want peace, preper for war.
Very similar to the American “peace through strength”, but more aggressive with the word “fear”.
Good. It’s unfortunate that this is needed in 2026, but it’s necessary.
He’s right. EU isn’t feared yet.
It is deeply unfortunate that it is needed, but without the US being an unconditional backstop for peace in Europe, this is the path forward.
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“it is much safer to be feared than loved because …love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.” ― Niccolo Machiavelli
Welcome to reality.
Fully support this.
Based and reality pilled.
I criticize France a lot on rEurope, but I gotta admit, they are one of the nations that actually work hard for European autonomy. If we achieve it, its in part thanks to them.
*Si vis pacem, para bellum.*
“If you want peace, prepare for war” – having strong army is necessary for peace.
“We strongly codemn” – 0 deterence
“Nuclear sub pops up at your coast” – sorry, sorry, we will be good now.
Macron has always been the one who gets it. Maybe not everyone would agree with him on various topics but he gets it.
We will continue to speak softly, while carrying a nuclear stick.
Like geese
La France fuck yeah
Edit, he’s afraid of civil servants ten years from retirement
For sure!
I wish the UK had carried on with a truly independent detterent.
Yes i know, operationally independent already but if the US eithdrew servicing they would not be operational for very long
Interestingly, and unlike e.g. the UK, France has an ‘escalate to de-escalate’ nuclear strategy – they will drop a ‘little’ nuke on you just to let you know they are serious.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E)
(the UK in contrast has a ‘total nuclear commitment’ strategy with its sub-launched ICBMs – not much option for ‘lightly’ nuking someone)
Von der leyen when macron aproach the cameras [emmanuel](https://youtube.com/shorts/wyfFHMaO-5g?si=4R8mDyQhm3o3nmCp)
Emmanuel Macron basically said, “Liberte, egalite… deterrence.”🇫🇷
Macron has his flaws, but I love his somewhat aggressive pan-European stance. Hope this continues. The era of Berlusconi’s and Merkels is truly over and I’m glad that EU is finally seeing this.
“If you want peace, prepare for war” – Rome Total War loading screen
Until an idiot is in power…
Fucking Macron. I’ll vote for you as President of the European Federation!
*”People ask, do you want to be feared or loved? Both. I want them to fear how much they love me” Michael Scott*
Macron is auditioning for his next job!
He’s right you know.
Good.
Dang it why can’t we just get along:(
This is the basic argument that causes every power in the world to want nuclear weapons; you can’t be anti-proliferation and simultaneously say that the only way to ensure your own existance is to have nuclear weapons