‘To be free, we have to be feared,’ Macron says in keynote nuclear speech

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260302-macron-unveils-france-nuclear-strategy-eu-counter-russian-aggression-wavering-us

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  1. Reminds me of the old story when Alexander the Great met Diogenes.

    A: “Do you fear me?”

    D: “Are you good or evil?”

    A: “Good, of course”

    D: “Why should I fear a good man?”

  2. Sloth_Triumph on

    Wow, this is like what Americans would say if they had any self awareness. 

  3. No_Conversation_9325 on

    Unfortunately humanity is so damn stupid allowing insatiable power hungry monsters into power, that it had to come to this.

  4. DaySecure7642 on

    Very similar to the American “peace through strength”, but more aggressive with the word “fear”.

  5. It is deeply unfortunate that it is needed, but without the US being an unconditional backstop for peace in Europe, this is the path forward.

  6. “it is much safer to be feared than loved because …love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.” ― Niccolo Machiavelli

  7. Based and reality pilled.

    I criticize France a lot on rEurope, but I gotta admit, they are one of the nations that actually work hard for European autonomy. If we achieve it, its in part thanks to them.

  8. *Si vis pacem, para bellum.*
    “If you want peace, prepare for war” – having strong army is necessary for peace.

  9. “We strongly codemn” – 0 deterence

    “Nuclear sub pops up at your coast” – sorry, sorry, we will be good now.

  10. Macron has always been the one who gets it. Maybe not everyone would agree with him on various topics but he gets it.

  11. fuckinghonkkong on

    La France fuck yeah
    Edit, he’s afraid of civil servants ten years from retirement

  12. Terrible_Theme_6488 on

    I wish the UK had carried on with a truly independent detterent.

    Yes i know, operationally independent already but if the US eithdrew servicing they would not be operational for very long

  13. some_where_else on

    Interestingly, and unlike e.g. the UK, France has an ‘escalate to de-escalate’ nuclear strategy – they will drop a ‘little’ nuke on you just to let you know they are serious.

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E)

    (the UK in contrast has a ‘total nuclear commitment’ strategy with its sub-launched ICBMs – not much option for ‘lightly’ nuking someone)

  14. Opposite_Dentist_321 on

    Emmanuel Macron basically said, “Liberte, egalite… deterrence.”🇫🇷

  15. Macron has his flaws, but I love his somewhat aggressive pan-European stance. Hope this continues. The era of Berlusconi’s and Merkels is truly over and I’m glad that EU is finally seeing this.

  16. Shiny_Noodle5 on

    *”People ask, do you want to be feared or loved? Both. I want them to fear how much they love me” Michael Scott*

  17. HopefulFriendly on

    This is the basic argument that causes every power in the world to want nuclear weapons; you can’t be anti-proliferation and simultaneously say that the only way to ensure your own existance is to have nuclear weapons