Makes sense, and pulls into question the motives of the right wing commentators in this country baying for war.
ArgusButterfly on
Given our erstwhile ally’s history of “friendly fire”, you know what wouldn’t surprise me?
Any-Swing-3518 on
We’ve now had a few iterations of “staying out of it”, which are really just “gradually getting into it.” Really “staying out of it” would be doing what Spain, honorably, is doing. But nice to see the pretense ending that we’re not just going to do whatever Trump, and by extension, Israel wants.
the-player-of-games on
Bs headline
Hezbollah would not have launched this without instructions from Iran
Just more of the ‘Starmer bad!’ trope
JAGERW0LF on
could have an out here especially of its linked to Hezbollah.
Turn to Israel and say if you stop striking southern Lebanon and well support Lebanon disarming Hezbollah.
Gets the missile risk off israels northern border, easing tensions between them, helps push peace and stability within lebanon to help them rebuild.
All the “top 1% commenters” coming out begging for it to have been an Israeli drone tonight. Curious!
Darkone539 on
We already knew this… i guess they just confirmed it? They sent drones at us and missiles at Israel, who are now bombing them and talking about invading.
>The RAF base in Cyprus was hit by a one-way attack drone at 12.03am local time (10pm GMT) on Monday. The MoD confirmed today that the drone “was not launched from Iran”, backing Cypriot officials’ assessment that the long-range weapon was most likely launched from Lebanon by Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah.
Hellstorm901 on
People saying that the attack wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t support the US just casually, and purposely, leave out that the attack happened even though we didn’t actually support the US at the cost of our diplomatic relations with the US
I think the Iranian regime might collapse before some people finally accept that the likes of Iran don’t remotely care whether we’re involved or not or whether you support them or not, they’ve by their own admission wanted to kill us ever since 1948 as they blame us for Israel existing
So we’re at a point here where you can support our forces protecting the UK and our allies from Iranian attacks while staying out of the war against Iran itself or you are advocating our troops do nothing to stop Iran’s attacks and allow British citizens to die just so you can tell the widows and orphans that their loves ones died so you can pretend you have a good conscience
PARFT on
I did not realise there was any doubt it was sent by Hezbollah?
And it was a fucking stupid thing for them to do.
Ghalldachd on
I’ve been ignoring Reddit coverage of this for a few days because the trend of everyone pretending to be an expert on foreign affairs is so egregious – and I especially can’t tolerate it when it’s on a topic that I am actually knowledgeable about. I get that people don’t like/trust Israel or our government and that false flags have happened in the past, but the idea that the US/Israel struck Akrotiri is utterly absurd. Iran’s grand strategy has always involved using its proxies to lash out whenever it is attacked by the US, it is a key pillar of their deterrence. The evaluation that this was likely Hezbollah is almost certainly accurate.
grubbygromit on
Blatantly a false flag to ok our involvement.
In a way I understand. Its a tightrope dealing with trump.
dJunka on
Who cares who’s drone it is. Let Israel fight their own wars. They don’t treat us like allies.
OneCheesecake1516 on
Hezbollah and Iran are for all basic terms the same thing. Hezbollah did not act without the say so of their Iranian masters. Hezbollah do not have capability to manufacture such drones.
dbxp on
That makes more sense, it would have to cross a hell of a lot of AA systems to get to Cyprus from Iran and it kinda makes sense they might decide throwing more drones at Israel is a bit pointless with all their successful intercepts.
VV-Doom on
Israel has invaded southern Lebanon. It is not beyond possibility that the Israelis did this thing. They have form. King David hotel bombing. Etc.
Acceptable-Pin2939 on
Starmer playing a blinder by not getting involved but the reform bots desperate to paint this as a bad call.
FlabbyShabby on
I am assuming that anyone in Hezbollah, or Iran connected with the military, would be aware that UK (and Turkey) are NATO members. So, any attack on one of them would trigger the rest of NATO to join in, including attacks from designated “terrorist” groups. However, it seems like UK & NATO are not making that much of a fuss about it. Why is that? Do they know that it wasn’t actually Hezbollah, nor Iran? Do they know that it was someone else, trying to trigger UK/NATO into joining in the war?
Note: Hezbollah and Iran have NOT claimed responsibility for the attack. Please do a quick search for “USS Liberty 1967”
Acceptable-Pin2939 on
And if it was Iran?
What’s the plan.
We join in?
Why would we go and join a concept of a plan.
Ancient-Function4738 on
So it was an Iran backed group instead… no difference, misleading headline
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Hezbollah for those in doubt.
Makes sense, and pulls into question the motives of the right wing commentators in this country baying for war.
Given our erstwhile ally’s history of “friendly fire”, you know what wouldn’t surprise me?
We’ve now had a few iterations of “staying out of it”, which are really just “gradually getting into it.” Really “staying out of it” would be doing what Spain, honorably, is doing. But nice to see the pretense ending that we’re not just going to do whatever Trump, and by extension, Israel wants.
Bs headline
Hezbollah would not have launched this without instructions from Iran
Just more of the ‘Starmer bad!’ trope
could have an out here especially of its linked to Hezbollah.
Turn to Israel and say if you stop striking southern Lebanon and well support Lebanon disarming Hezbollah.
Gets the missile risk off israels northern border, easing tensions between them, helps push peace and stability within lebanon to help them rebuild.
Could it have been the US?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2517510-why-the-us-is-using-a-cheap-iranian-drone-against-the-country-itself/
All the “top 1% commenters” coming out begging for it to have been an Israeli drone tonight. Curious!
We already knew this… i guess they just confirmed it? They sent drones at us and missiles at Israel, who are now bombing them and talking about invading.
>The RAF base in Cyprus was hit by a one-way attack drone at 12.03am local time (10pm GMT) on Monday. The MoD confirmed today that the drone “was not launched from Iran”, backing Cypriot officials’ assessment that the long-range weapon was most likely launched from Lebanon by Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah.
People saying that the attack wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t support the US just casually, and purposely, leave out that the attack happened even though we didn’t actually support the US at the cost of our diplomatic relations with the US
I think the Iranian regime might collapse before some people finally accept that the likes of Iran don’t remotely care whether we’re involved or not or whether you support them or not, they’ve by their own admission wanted to kill us ever since 1948 as they blame us for Israel existing
So we’re at a point here where you can support our forces protecting the UK and our allies from Iranian attacks while staying out of the war against Iran itself or you are advocating our troops do nothing to stop Iran’s attacks and allow British citizens to die just so you can tell the widows and orphans that their loves ones died so you can pretend you have a good conscience
I did not realise there was any doubt it was sent by Hezbollah?
And it was a fucking stupid thing for them to do.
I’ve been ignoring Reddit coverage of this for a few days because the trend of everyone pretending to be an expert on foreign affairs is so egregious – and I especially can’t tolerate it when it’s on a topic that I am actually knowledgeable about. I get that people don’t like/trust Israel or our government and that false flags have happened in the past, but the idea that the US/Israel struck Akrotiri is utterly absurd. Iran’s grand strategy has always involved using its proxies to lash out whenever it is attacked by the US, it is a key pillar of their deterrence. The evaluation that this was likely Hezbollah is almost certainly accurate.
Blatantly a false flag to ok our involvement.
In a way I understand. Its a tightrope dealing with trump.
Who cares who’s drone it is. Let Israel fight their own wars. They don’t treat us like allies.
Hezbollah and Iran are for all basic terms the same thing. Hezbollah did not act without the say so of their Iranian masters. Hezbollah do not have capability to manufacture such drones.
That makes more sense, it would have to cross a hell of a lot of AA systems to get to Cyprus from Iran and it kinda makes sense they might decide throwing more drones at Israel is a bit pointless with all their successful intercepts.
Israel has invaded southern Lebanon. It is not beyond possibility that the Israelis did this thing. They have form. King David hotel bombing. Etc.
Starmer playing a blinder by not getting involved but the reform bots desperate to paint this as a bad call.
I am assuming that anyone in Hezbollah, or Iran connected with the military, would be aware that UK (and Turkey) are NATO members. So, any attack on one of them would trigger the rest of NATO to join in, including attacks from designated “terrorist” groups. However, it seems like UK & NATO are not making that much of a fuss about it. Why is that? Do they know that it wasn’t actually Hezbollah, nor Iran? Do they know that it was someone else, trying to trigger UK/NATO into joining in the war?
Note: Hezbollah and Iran have NOT claimed responsibility for the attack. Please do a quick search for “USS Liberty 1967”
And if it was Iran?
What’s the plan.
We join in?
Why would we go and join a concept of a plan.
So it was an Iran backed group instead… no difference, misleading headline