Starmer seemed to connect with the audience better. Rishi seemed to just blame the doctors and Vietnam.
Business_Ad561 on
Is there anywhere I can watch this in full? I missed it.
Alert-One-Two on
Beth Rigby irritated the crap out of me during Covid and just seems to have gotten even more annoying.
Imreallyadonut on
Performing the best amongst that shower is like picking your favourite sexually transmitted disease.
caiaphas8 on
It’s a shame that Sunak never got to pay for Sky to see this
ferrel_hadley on
All Starmer had to do was not f*ck up and he did that. The election will be busy, lots of things will happen so this will be forgotten in a few days unless either of them delivered a twitter trending gaffe which both avoided.
The country badly wants better public services while enough of it does not want to pay more tax that simply put you are really going to struggle to deliver with flat growth and pensions sky rocketing.
Sunak looks beat. The whole tory campaign has had been a god tier cock up, the wet launch, DDay, not having Sky etc etc. Its just a clusterfarce.
Now really its a battle between the Tories and Reform as to who has the biggest PR blunders that cut through and shift polling.
la1mark on
Beth was incredibly soft on sunak to begin with compared to Kier. That being said Sunak just got destroyed over and over again whilst i thought Kier had some genuinely decent answers.
It’s nice to see a politician(Kier) taking a common sense approach and refuse to back down or promise the world.
Slight edit: the question about him being a robot was odd also, I’d rather have my PM being thoughtful and a bit robotic / boring than flying on a fucking zip line or partying in downing street or skipping out on important ceremonies such as DDay.
ChocoRamyeon on
I find it funny how much of the main broadcast media, I can’t speak for the papers, seem to say ‘neither man made an impression’ and their slant is to report about voter apathy and not liking either party. Yet Labour are polling 20% higher than the Tories on a regular basis! Who are they trying to fool?
Agreeable_Falcon1044 on
It was so bad for sunak. It got to the point where I felt sorry for him. He was being heckled, laughed at and ritually torn a new one by simple questions he seemed to have no answer for.
Starmer needs to start answering questions too. At one point it was “I won’t lie to you…” and then didn’t answer the question!
Oh and how about showing some personality by laughing and playing to the audience with his toolmaker dad?
Normal_Mud_9070 on
Keir Starmer is very good at not answering questions
Mr_XcX on
There was a none of the above option which possibly could have won. Yes Starmer was better than Sunak but both are abysmal candidates. Starmer obviously better than the trainwreck that is Sunak who should never have been PM.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
The audience seemed to dislike both (maybe indifferent at best to Starmer)
I think there needs to be a clear distinction that if the public wants public services improved that means the government will have to increase taxes.
The question is who do you trust to spend those taxes?
Wah-Wah43 on
He couldn’t have done much worse than Sunak.
However, he evaded plenty of questions and doesn’t really seem to have any answers to the problems this country faces.
Wes Streeting worries me and it’s clear Starmer is on the side of big business and not ‘working people’ like he claims to be.
I know a lot of people like to say, “He’s just doing this to get elected.”
In a few weeks we will finally get an answer to that question. Is he really just another red Tory or he is actually on the side of working people?
Unlucky-Jello-5660 on
Hardly surprising given Rishis tactic of telling the audience they are wrong.
mxlevolent on
Starmer did vastly better with the actual audience than he did with Rigby, and it honestly felt like Rigby was easy on Sunak compared to Starmer.
And Sunak still did shit lol
aruncc on
• Lowest relative pay increases in modern history
• Highest levels of tax on indivuals in over 80 years
• Average UK weekly earnings below where they were in 2008
• Number of emergency food parcels has gone from 100k in 2008 to 3m a year
• Worst household disposable income since the 1950s
• Longest NHS waiting lists ever (steady increase since 2010, so not the pandemic) – 8 million currently on list
• Longest ever wait time for GP appointments
• Highest ever increase on rental costs over the past 5 years
• 39% of households now can’t afford a decent standard of living
• Highest ever increase in rail transport costs
• Highest amount of national debt since the 1960s
• Second worst economic growth in G7 since 2019 (so not the pandemic)
• Worst % economic growth since the great depression
• Lowest business investment out of the G7 by over 5% (analysis shows this is largely related to 5 PMs in eight years)
• Promise of less than 100k net migration in 2010 yet hit around 800k in 2023
• 8% of Britons think the UK is in better shape than in 2010 (YouGov)
• Homelessness up 120% since 2010
• Number of childcare places has fallen by 40,000 since 2010
• 4.3 million children are in poverty (30% of all UK children). Increase of 17% since 2010
• Largest rise in absolute poverty (after housing costs) since 1982
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Starmer seemed to connect with the audience better. Rishi seemed to just blame the doctors and Vietnam.
Is there anywhere I can watch this in full? I missed it.
Beth Rigby irritated the crap out of me during Covid and just seems to have gotten even more annoying.
Performing the best amongst that shower is like picking your favourite sexually transmitted disease.
It’s a shame that Sunak never got to pay for Sky to see this
All Starmer had to do was not f*ck up and he did that. The election will be busy, lots of things will happen so this will be forgotten in a few days unless either of them delivered a twitter trending gaffe which both avoided.
The country badly wants better public services while enough of it does not want to pay more tax that simply put you are really going to struggle to deliver with flat growth and pensions sky rocketing.
Sunak looks beat. The whole tory campaign has had been a god tier cock up, the wet launch, DDay, not having Sky etc etc. Its just a clusterfarce.
Now really its a battle between the Tories and Reform as to who has the biggest PR blunders that cut through and shift polling.
Beth was incredibly soft on sunak to begin with compared to Kier. That being said Sunak just got destroyed over and over again whilst i thought Kier had some genuinely decent answers.
It’s nice to see a politician(Kier) taking a common sense approach and refuse to back down or promise the world.
Slight edit: the question about him being a robot was odd also, I’d rather have my PM being thoughtful and a bit robotic / boring than flying on a fucking zip line or partying in downing street or skipping out on important ceremonies such as DDay.
I find it funny how much of the main broadcast media, I can’t speak for the papers, seem to say ‘neither man made an impression’ and their slant is to report about voter apathy and not liking either party. Yet Labour are polling 20% higher than the Tories on a regular basis! Who are they trying to fool?
It was so bad for sunak. It got to the point where I felt sorry for him. He was being heckled, laughed at and ritually torn a new one by simple questions he seemed to have no answer for.
Starmer needs to start answering questions too. At one point it was “I won’t lie to you…” and then didn’t answer the question!
Oh and how about showing some personality by laughing and playing to the audience with his toolmaker dad?
Keir Starmer is very good at not answering questions
There was a none of the above option which possibly could have won. Yes Starmer was better than Sunak but both are abysmal candidates. Starmer obviously better than the trainwreck that is Sunak who should never have been PM.
The audience seemed to dislike both (maybe indifferent at best to Starmer)
I think there needs to be a clear distinction that if the public wants public services improved that means the government will have to increase taxes.
The question is who do you trust to spend those taxes?
He couldn’t have done much worse than Sunak.
However, he evaded plenty of questions and doesn’t really seem to have any answers to the problems this country faces.
Wes Streeting worries me and it’s clear Starmer is on the side of big business and not ‘working people’ like he claims to be.
I know a lot of people like to say, “He’s just doing this to get elected.”
In a few weeks we will finally get an answer to that question. Is he really just another red Tory or he is actually on the side of working people?
Hardly surprising given Rishis tactic of telling the audience they are wrong.
Starmer did vastly better with the actual audience than he did with Rigby, and it honestly felt like Rigby was easy on Sunak compared to Starmer.
And Sunak still did shit lol
• Lowest relative pay increases in modern history
• Highest levels of tax on indivuals in over 80 years
• Average UK weekly earnings below where they were in 2008
• Number of emergency food parcels has gone from 100k in 2008 to 3m a year
• Worst household disposable income since the 1950s
• Longest NHS waiting lists ever (steady increase since 2010, so not the pandemic) – 8 million currently on list
• Longest ever wait time for GP appointments
• Highest ever increase on rental costs over the past 5 years
• 39% of households now can’t afford a decent standard of living
• Highest ever increase in rail transport costs
• Highest amount of national debt since the 1960s
• Second worst economic growth in G7 since 2019 (so not the pandemic)
• Worst % economic growth since the great depression
• Lowest business investment out of the G7 by over 5% (analysis shows this is largely related to 5 PMs in eight years)
• Promise of less than 100k net migration in 2010 yet hit around 800k in 2023
• 8% of Britons think the UK is in better shape than in 2010 (YouGov)
• Homelessness up 120% since 2010
• Number of childcare places has fallen by 40,000 since 2010
• 4.3 million children are in poverty (30% of all UK children). Increase of 17% since 2010
• Largest rise in absolute poverty (after housing costs) since 1982